Crafting bags, then you stop Sub'ing - what happens?

Lysette

rotaugen454 wrote: »

My two mules are trembling with fear...

To me it will be very useful, because I did not use my characters as mules, but had to store all in the bank or guild bank. So far I played them as a team, but it might be, that those crafting bags are character-bound, in this case I will have to reorganize and give any of them a certain amount of any material, so that they can operate on their own and not rely on team efforts. Well, research and so will still be a team effort - one gets a new trait, researches it, and than makes 7 lvl-1 items with this trait for the other 7 to learn it as well. I like to play them as a team - and it would be awesome if that crafting bag would be useable as a team, but I doubt it will be.

clayandaudrey_ESO

Kwivur wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

For me subbing is well worth $15 bucks a month. I get a crown allowance and access to all dlc's but I understand this is not an option for some and I hope ZOS does add the crafting bag to the crown store so everyone can free up some space.

Na.. It won't happen. It's for ESO+ only. It's only $15.. I spend that everyday on my way home from work.

This game will never go B2P.

Mcwoods55

HenryIvan wrote: »

Kwivur wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

For me subbing is well worth $15 bucks a month. I get a crown allowance and access to all dlc's but I understand this is not an option for some and I hope ZOS does add the crafting bag to the crown store so everyone can free up some space.

Na.. It won't happen. It's for ESO+ only. It's only $15.. I spend that everyday on my way home from work.

Well I hope they change their minds there is a lot of kids who play this game who's parents aint gonna give them 15 bucks a month for a video game then there are a lot of college kids who play and are tight on money and 15 bucks a month is like a month supply of Ramen noodles! ZoS put it in the crown store make everyone happy and you still make your money

Don't forget us guys whose wife won't give us $15 a month for it either! LOL

Tandor

rotaugen454 wrote: »

My two mules are trembling with fear...

Tell them they'll be able to have some friends as you'll be able to buy additional character slots...

HenryIvan

Mcwoods55 wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

Kwivur wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

For me subbing is well worth $15 bucks a month. I get a crown allowance and access to all dlc's but I understand this is not an option for some and I hope ZOS does add the crafting bag to the crown store so everyone can free up some space.

Na.. It won't happen. It's for ESO+ only. It's only $15.. I spend that everyday on my way home from work.

Well I hope they change their minds there is a lot of kids who play this game who's parents aint gonna give them 15 bucks a month for a video game then there are a lot of college kids who play and are tight on money and 15 bucks a month is like a month supply of Ramen noodles! ZoS put it in the crown store make everyone happy and you still make your money

Don't forget us guys whose wife won't give us $15 a month for it either! LOL

I was in your boat once but then I got my wife to play the game too, now she don't mind forking over the cash

Ritzey01

MissBizz wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

You'll still be able to access your items in the Craft Bag, but won't be able to add any new materials to it.

Ding ding ding! We have an answer. Everyone who guessed right gets a cookie

YAY!!! I love cookies!!!

Mcwoods55

HenryIvan wrote: »

Mcwoods55 wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

Kwivur wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

For me subbing is well worth $15 bucks a month. I get a crown allowance and access to all dlc's but I understand this is not an option for some and I hope ZOS does add the crafting bag to the crown store so everyone can free up some space.

Na.. It won't happen. It's for ESO+ only. It's only $15.. I spend that everyday on my way home from work.

Well I hope they change their minds there is a lot of kids who play this game who's parents aint gonna give them 15 bucks a month for a video game then there are a lot of college kids who play and are tight on money and 15 bucks a month is like a month supply of Ramen noodles! ZoS put it in the crown store make everyone happy and you still make your money

Don't forget us guys whose wife won't give us $15 a month for it either! LOL

I was in your boat once but then I got my wife to play the game too, now she don't mind forking over the cash

Mine is only into Batman. Can't get her to even watch this. She thinks its stupid... Almost divorced my wife of 10 years when those words came out of her mouth. LOL

Lysette

HenryIvan wrote: »

Mcwoods55 wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

Kwivur wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

For me subbing is well worth $15 bucks a month. I get a crown allowance and access to all dlc's but I understand this is not an option for some and I hope ZOS does add the crafting bag to the crown store so everyone can free up some space.

Na.. It won't happen. It's for ESO+ only. It's only $15.. I spend that everyday on my way home from work.

Well I hope they change their minds there is a lot of kids who play this game who's parents aint gonna give them 15 bucks a month for a video game then there are a lot of college kids who play and are tight on money and 15 bucks a month is like a month supply of Ramen noodles! ZoS put it in the crown store make everyone happy and you still make your money

Don't forget us guys whose wife won't give us $15 a month for it either! LOL

I was in your boat once but then I got my wife to play the game too, now she don't mind forking over the cash

I didn't know that the old ways of letting wives rule over the family finances is still in place. Or is this not seriously meant?

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Your game will not change at all if you dont sub. Everything will be as it is now and you wont have to pay anything. If you do sub you get a bonus of a crafting bag for all your mats. There has to be some reason to sub. free access to dlc is not enough. They dont put it out fast enough.

Mcwoods55

Lysette wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

Mcwoods55 wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

Kwivur wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

For me subbing is well worth $15 bucks a month. I get a crown allowance and access to all dlc's but I understand this is not an option for some and I hope ZOS does add the crafting bag to the crown store so everyone can free up some space.

Na.. It won't happen. It's for ESO+ only. It's only $15.. I spend that everyday on my way home from work.

Well I hope they change their minds there is a lot of kids who play this game who's parents aint gonna give them 15 bucks a month for a video game then there are a lot of college kids who play and are tight on money and 15 bucks a month is like a month supply of Ramen noodles! ZoS put it in the crown store make everyone happy and you still make your money

Don't forget us guys whose wife won't give us $15 a month for it either! LOL

I was in your boat once but then I got my wife to play the game too, now she don't mind forking over the cash

I didn't know that the old ways of letting wives rule over the family finances is still in place. Or is this not seriously meant?

Well my last job (last 3 years) I worked 90 hours a week so I didn't have time to do bills so she took care of them all. She has continued to do so (because money was disappearing prior to that job on other games ) Anyway there is an old saying if mama aint happy aint no body happy.... and that goes in the bedroom too... LOL

Mcwoods55

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Your game will not change at all if you dont sub. Everything will be as it is now and you wont have to pay anything. If you do sub you get a bonus of a crafting bag for all your mats. There has to be some reason to sub. free access to dlc is not enough. They dont put it out fast enough.

I just wish they'd give me some crowns back if i, a first time sub came on board and owned all 3 previous DLCs.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Mcwoods55 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

Mcwoods55 wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

Kwivur wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

For me subbing is well worth $15 bucks a month. I get a crown allowance and access to all dlc's but I understand this is not an option for some and I hope ZOS does add the crafting bag to the crown store so everyone can free up some space.

Na.. It won't happen. It's for ESO+ only. It's only $15.. I spend that everyday on my way home from work.

Well I hope they change their minds there is a lot of kids who play this game who's parents aint gonna give them 15 bucks a month for a video game then there are a lot of college kids who play and are tight on money and 15 bucks a month is like a month supply of Ramen noodles! ZoS put it in the crown store make everyone happy and you still make your money

Don't forget us guys whose wife won't give us $15 a month for it either! LOL

I was in your boat once but then I got my wife to play the game too, now she don't mind forking over the cash

I didn't know that the old ways of letting wives rule over the family finances is still in place. Or is this not seriously meant?

Well my last job (last 3 years) I worked 90 hours a week so I didn't have time to do bills so she took care of them all. She has continued to do so (because money was disappearing prior to that job on other games ) Anyway there is an old saying if mama aint happy aint no body happy.... and that goes in the bedroom too... LOL

My dad always said "Happy wife. Happy life.".

Mcwoods55

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Mcwoods55 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

Mcwoods55 wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

Kwivur wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

For me subbing is well worth $15 bucks a month. I get a crown allowance and access to all dlc's but I understand this is not an option for some and I hope ZOS does add the crafting bag to the crown store so everyone can free up some space.

Na.. It won't happen. It's for ESO+ only. It's only $15.. I spend that everyday on my way home from work.

Well I hope they change their minds there is a lot of kids who play this game who's parents aint gonna give them 15 bucks a month for a video game then there are a lot of college kids who play and are tight on money and 15 bucks a month is like a month supply of Ramen noodles! ZoS put it in the crown store make everyone happy and you still make your money

Don't forget us guys whose wife won't give us $15 a month for it either! LOL

I was in your boat once but then I got my wife to play the game too, now she don't mind forking over the cash

I didn't know that the old ways of letting wives rule over the family finances is still in place. Or is this not seriously meant?

Well my last job (last 3 years) I worked 90 hours a week so I didn't have time to do bills so she took care of them all. She has continued to do so (because money was disappearing prior to that job on other games ) Anyway there is an old saying if mama aint happy aint no body happy.... and that goes in the bedroom too... LOL

My dad always said "Happy wife. Happy life.".

AMEN to that!

emily3989

nevermind.

Acrolas

Assistants were still the better ESO+ perk option. They're mediocre, but they're consistently mediocre.

With craft bags, people will just sub for a month, fill the bag with as much stuff as they can possibly find during that month, then drop the sub. If you do it right, $15 could last you the entire year or longer.

And if the bags can't hold recipes, motif pieces, weapons, armor, jewelry, treasure maps, IC trophies, bait, spare potions, etc, then they're still pretty worthless to me. My two biggest inventory strains are holding a set of trait items for research, and holding toon gear for after VR removal.

Crafting has never been an inventory issue for me due to its highly profitable liquidity. There's just too much turnaround on it to really invest in a long-term storage unit.

Lysette

Mcwoods55 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

Mcwoods55 wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

Kwivur wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

For me subbing is well worth $15 bucks a month. I get a crown allowance and access to all dlc's but I understand this is not an option for some and I hope ZOS does add the crafting bag to the crown store so everyone can free up some space.

Na.. It won't happen. It's for ESO+ only. It's only $15.. I spend that everyday on my way home from work.

Well I hope they change their minds there is a lot of kids who play this game who's parents aint gonna give them 15 bucks a month for a video game then there are a lot of college kids who play and are tight on money and 15 bucks a month is like a month supply of Ramen noodles! ZoS put it in the crown store make everyone happy and you still make your money

Don't forget us guys whose wife won't give us $15 a month for it either! LOL

I was in your boat once but then I got my wife to play the game too, now she don't mind forking over the cash

I didn't know that the old ways of letting wives rule over the family finances is still in place. Or is this not seriously meant?

Well my last job (last 3 years) I worked 90 hours a week so I didn't have time to do bills so she took care of them all. She has continued to do so (because money was disappearing prior to that job on other games ) Anyway there is an old saying if mama aint happy aint no body happy.... and that goes in the bedroom too... LOL

Yeah, I know about "happy wife, happy life" - It makes sense like you say it, but I find it worrisome, when you have to find reasons for your personal spendings - even kids get pocket money to freely decide what to do with it, without to have to justify what they are doing with it. So when someone says "my wife will not give me those 15 bucks either", than this goes too far IMO, there has to be a sphere of privacy, where no partner should have a right to interfere IMO - but maybe it is just me thinking that way.

lathbury

Mcwoods55 wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

Kwivur wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

For me subbing is well worth $15 bucks a month. I get a crown allowance and access to all dlc's but I understand this is not an option for some and I hope ZOS does add the crafting bag to the crown store so everyone can free up some space.

Na.. It won't happen. It's for ESO+ only. It's only $15.. I spend that everyday on my way home from work.

Well I hope they change their minds there is a lot of kids who play this game who's parents aint gonna give them 15 bucks a month for a video game then there are a lot of college kids who play and are tight on money and 15 bucks a month is like a month supply of Ramen noodles! ZoS put it in the crown store make everyone happy and you still make your money

Don't forget us guys whose wife won't give us $15 a month for it either! LOL

6 monthy sub b day and christmas mate they never know what to get us anyway and it beats toiletries

QuebraRegra

not sure if this has been asked... Can we get an "ELITE EDITION"? Pay once price for ALL DLC, and perma crafting bags, and a monthly crown allowance?

Not really liking $15 a month model.

tinythinker

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I have to hope this is free with ESO plus and also a crown store item like DLC ....if not, I'm gonna have a wth moment

If I recall the original version of crafting bags, people who sub get unlimited space for mats. If that is still true, you could offer a lesser version for non-subbers in the Crown Store, like, a 50 slot small craft bag *or* a 100 slot large craft bag (unique, account-wide) for a tidy pile of cash. You could upgrade the small bag to a large bag but couldn't have two bags at once.

It would still be something non-subbers with banks bursting with mats would want, but it wouldn't be nearly as good as what subbers get, to tempt the non-subbers into just paying the $15/month. I get the feeling some other QoL items will appear in the next year and follow this pattern of "one time pay cash for a small boost or get unlimited as part of a sub". They could do this with many existing and as yet to be added features.

Seraseth

What I'm curious about is how the bags work:

Does each character have their own, and therefore you'd still have to pass mats back and forth between characters who craft?

Or is the 'bag' more like a 'bank' that's a new shared inventory for the account that only holds crafting mats?


Also, what's included in crafting mats, everything that goes under 'materials' tab? Including trait/style stones?

Mcwoods55

Lysette wrote: »

Mcwoods55 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

Mcwoods55 wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

Kwivur wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

For me subbing is well worth $15 bucks a month. I get a crown allowance and access to all dlc's but I understand this is not an option for some and I hope ZOS does add the crafting bag to the crown store so everyone can free up some space.

Na.. It won't happen. It's for ESO+ only. It's only $15.. I spend that everyday on my way home from work.

Well I hope they change their minds there is a lot of kids who play this game who's parents aint gonna give them 15 bucks a month for a video game then there are a lot of college kids who play and are tight on money and 15 bucks a month is like a month supply of Ramen noodles! ZoS put it in the crown store make everyone happy and you still make your money

Don't forget us guys whose wife won't give us $15 a month for it either! LOL

I was in your boat once but then I got my wife to play the game too, now she don't mind forking over the cash

I didn't know that the old ways of letting wives rule over the family finances is still in place. Or is this not seriously meant?

Well my last job (last 3 years) I worked 90 hours a week so I didn't have time to do bills so she took care of them all. She has continued to do so (because money was disappearing prior to that job on other games ) Anyway there is an old saying if mama aint happy aint no body happy.... and that goes in the bedroom too... LOL

Yeah, I know about "happy wife, happy life" - It makes sense like you say it, but I find it worrisome, when you have to find reasons for your personal spendings - even kids get pocket money to freely decide what to do with it, without to have to justify what they are doing with it. So when someone says "my wife will not give me those 15 bucks either", than this goes too far IMO, there has to be a sphere of privacy, where no partner should have a right to interfere IMO - but maybe it is just me thinking that way.

tinythinker wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I have to hope this is free with ESO plus and also a crown store item like DLC ....if not, I'm gonna have a wth moment

If I recall the original version of crafting bags, people who sub get unlimited space for mats. If that is still true, you could offer a lesser version for non-subbers in the Crown Store, like, a 50 slot small craft bag *or* a 100 slot large craft bag (unique, account-wide) for a tidy pile of cash. You could upgrade the small bag to a large bag but couldn't have two bags at once.

It would still be something non-subbers with banks bursting with mats would want, but it wouldn't be nearly as good as what subbers get, to tempt the non-subbers into just paying the $15/month. I get the feeling some other QoL items will appear in the next year and follow this pattern of "one time pay cash for a small boost or get unlimited as part of a sub". They could do this with many existing and as yet to be added features.

As long as it is a one time pay and not a monthly pay. Like 100 crowns a month for the small bag and 150 a month for the large bag. I'd pay a one time fee...

Lysette

QuebraRegra wrote: »

not sure if this has been asked... Can we get an "ELITE EDITION"? Pay once price for ALL DLC, and perma crafting bags, and a monthly crown allowance?

Not really liking $15 a month model.

What about a 6-month sub - this is not permanent, but I think you can stack those - not sure though. So if you buy like 6 of those, you would have paid for 3 years and get 54,000 crowns immediately to spend on stuff you like as well.

Edit: @ZOS_GinaBruno Gina, could you confirm, that 6-months subs are stackable and can be bought in advance?- Maybe I am wrong, this should be clarified.

Jaeysa

Lysette wrote: »

Mcwoods55 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

Mcwoods55 wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

Kwivur wrote: »

HenryIvan wrote: »

For me subbing is well worth $15 bucks a month. I get a crown allowance and access to all dlc's but I understand this is not an option for some and I hope ZOS does add the crafting bag to the crown store so everyone can free up some space.

Na.. It won't happen. It's for ESO+ only. It's only $15.. I spend that everyday on my way home from work.

Well I hope they change their minds there is a lot of kids who play this game who's parents aint gonna give them 15 bucks a month for a video game then there are a lot of college kids who play and are tight on money and 15 bucks a month is like a month supply of Ramen noodles! ZoS put it in the crown store make everyone happy and you still make your money

Don't forget us guys whose wife won't give us $15 a month for it either! LOL

I was in your boat once but then I got my wife to play the game too, now she don't mind forking over the cash

I didn't know that the old ways of letting wives rule over the family finances is still in place. Or is this not seriously meant?

Well my last job (last 3 years) I worked 90 hours a week so I didn't have time to do bills so she took care of them all. She has continued to do so (because money was disappearing prior to that job on other games ) Anyway there is an old saying if mama aint happy aint no body happy.... and that goes in the bedroom too... LOL

Yeah, I know about "happy wife, happy life" - It makes sense like you say it, but I find it worrisome, when you have to find reasons for your personal spendings - even kids get pocket money to freely decide what to do with it, without to have to justify what they are doing with it. So when someone says "my wife will not give me those 15 bucks either", than this goes too far IMO, there has to be a sphere of privacy, where no partner should have a right to interfere IMO - but maybe it is just me thinking that way.

Completely agree. People would be up in arms if it were the reverse("my husband said I can't play").

@Seraseth - I believe everything that's categorized as material, including trait and style stones.

tinythinker

Seraseth wrote: »

What I'm curious about is how the bags work:

Does each character have their own, and therefore you'd still have to pass mats back and forth between characters who craft?

Or is the 'bag' more like a 'bank' that's a new shared inventory for the account that only holds crafting mats?


Also, what's included in crafting mats, everything that goes under 'materials' tab? Including trait/style stones?

As I heard it described, the confirmed crafting bag is just unlimited space for your account where you can cram as much as you want in as long as the items are crafting related, so yeah, wood, ore, refined cloth, trait stones, etc. The speculation about buying a bag without a sub (not confirmed) is that it would also be a single accountwide item but with a finite amount of space.

Seraseth

tinythinker wrote: »

Seraseth wrote: »

What I'm curious about is how the bags work:

Does each character have their own, and therefore you'd still have to pass mats back and forth between characters who craft?

Or is the 'bag' more like a 'bank' that's a new shared inventory for the account that only holds crafting mats?


Also, what's included in crafting mats, everything that goes under 'materials' tab? Including trait/style stones?

As I heard it described, the confirmed crafting bag is just unlimited space for your account where you can cram as much as you want in as long as the items are crafting related, so yeah, wood, ore, refined cloth, trait stones, etc. The speculation about buying a bag without a sub (not confirmed) is that it would also be a single accountwide item but with a finite amount of space.

Oh good, was hoping for account wide, since I have a few characters who make use of the same mats.

The other question is, is the bag always accessible to you everywhere, like in the field? Or is it more like an option at the bank teller? And if it's connected to the bank, will the bank assistant have it too?

@ZOS_GinaBruno If you have any of these answers, or any other specific details about the bag, please share!

Lysette

tinythinker wrote: »

Seraseth wrote: »

What I'm curious about is how the bags work:

Does each character have their own, and therefore you'd still have to pass mats back and forth between characters who craft?

Or is the 'bag' more like a 'bank' that's a new shared inventory for the account that only holds crafting mats?


Also, what's included in crafting mats, everything that goes under 'materials' tab? Including trait/style stones?

As I heard it described, the confirmed crafting bag is just unlimited space for your account where you can cram as much as you want in as long as the items are crafting related, so yeah, wood, ore, refined cloth, trait stones, etc. The speculation about buying a bag without a sub (not confirmed) is that it would also be a single accountwide item but with a finite amount of space.

Account-wide similar to new unlimited tab in the bank would be really cool. I could still play my characters as a team, where each of them has this bag immediately available on login. That would really make me continue to be a happy subscriber.

Divinius

Seraseth wrote: »

What I'm curious about is how the bags work:

Does each character have their own, and therefore you'd still have to pass mats back and forth between characters who craft?

Or is the 'bag' more like a 'bank' that's a new shared inventory for the account that only holds crafting mats?


Also, what's included in crafting mats, everything that goes under 'materials' tab? Including trait/style stones?

These are all the same questions I have.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Im sure the bag works as just another "bank" just your bank does now. You wont have to deposit mats tho they would just automatically go there. I cannot wait. I keep three or four characters just for storage. I can actually play them again.

kojou

Best feature in the new content.

Gedalya

soleil.clercb14_ESO wrote: »

So you subscribe to ESO Plus.
You get your crafting bags.
You fill them bags with all your items.
Then you stop your subscription and log on.
You won't have access to DLC areas, but will have all your gear from there.
But, what happens to your crafting materials in the bags that previously took up bank/ guild bank/ alts inventory slots???

I would imagine it goes into escrow to be pulled when going to a physical bank. There are quite a few unanswered questions at this point though; the two most notable being the performance improvements in Cyrodiil and Veteran Rank removal.