Why are YOU not in azuras star?

caperon

I am in azuras

CasNation wrote: »

I am really enjoying my time in Azura's. I get much more eof the small scale pvp that I really enjoy. PVP isn't so much about the overarching goal of "winning" the alliance war, and it seems that most players, even on appossing factions feel similarly. Sometimes there Will be a fight set up where one side doesn't even flag the keep, because they want the other side to be able to keep spawning and fighting. Pretty good AP all around too. And yes, I know that some will see this as "farming" each other, but honestly, it is a lot more fun than wrecking balling from keep to keep until another zerg manages to take you down.

The key for the 3 faction warfare is that noone ever wins. Once 1 faction wins, the fun is over for everyone. Actually, 1 mecanism would help against total dominance campaigns would be make the 3 1st keeps of each faction return to the faction after a while, because when i see the map in just 1 color and im ganked when i jump the wall of my faction base i just stop pvping or move to another campaign.

NBrookus

Azura's is a pretty fun campaign to play in. No lag, hardly any exploiters and cheaters, and no one has ridiculously powerful spammable abilities. In a lot of ways, there's more skill involved since nobody's got a deadly 3 hit combo, and if you get hit from stealth you have a chance to recover and fight back.

Unfortunately, the population balance swings like crazy. One day it's full of AD and the next the map is blue; there might be one bar in every faction or nearly pop-locked.

And if you are geared up and specced out to use your CP you are not going to have any sustain unless you re-gear, which isn't cheap. Which is mostly why I don't play there often.

Kas

because i want to fight experienced players and not farm AP vs those relatively new to the game.

vamp_emily

Sleep wrote: »

because I'm a noob

You would fit right in, AS is for noobs now.

joker0137

I don't PvP at all

What is it?

Docmandu

I am in azuras

ThePonzzz wrote: »

ShadowStarKing wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

Lol, troll post is troll. I'm not in Azura's Star because I actually want to use the CP I gained. As far as I'm concerned, AZ is full of pansies that can't stand the fact that someone who put in more time and/or effort into gaining an advantage beat them.

Sounds a lot like someone felt they needed CP to carry them through PvP.

You do realise most of the long time players including myself have invested millions into 2/3 gear sets each for our 5-8 toons with the CP factored in right?

Try running a stamDK with 5/5 hundings and 3/3 agility with SNB/2H or 2H/bow with all your enchants as stamina and all your jewellery as weapon damage with no CP. You will have around 500 stam regen. Which means your ass will get handed to you......

To play in Azura's I would need to re-enchant or re-craft an exclusive gear set that takes into account my lack of CP for regen/mitigation and completely backtrack my build. I did have sets that would have fullfilled this role around a year back when I had 100 CP. But I deconned/re-enchanted/re-crafted all of them to account for the fact that I now have 500 CP. Why the heck would I spend millions again just to go back to the old gear.......when I can just go to haderus/TF and now fight people who have similar CP to me + all the waah wahh I have no CP whiners are now going to Azura's. Now I call this a win-win. All the low CP newbies are in azura's and essentially almost everyone in had/TF has upwards of 300 CP. We can all have our balance.

This is the problem with the game everyone should just stack into dmg and leave CP up to sustain with no drawbacks. Which is un healthy for the game.

You are right though about the gear without cp you SHOULD get owned if you spec into full dmg your sustain should suck hence the term glass cannon. Mages in fantasy games (not just sorcs in this game) are suppose to be VERY squishy but the trade off is they can melt some ones face off but thats not the case in this game.

I would advise all of you to at least tryout the no CP campaign as it pretty enjoyable. And allows for more build diversty instead of following the META.

Those claiming that you work 'hard' for your CP well you did, but you also made the game soo easy for yourself that a 6 year old can play it. Think about it PVE is SO easy with CP that you can play in your UNDERWARE and do just fine.

Just remember when this game DIDN'T have CP you needed good resource sustain, now adays you just mash your face in the keyboard/controller and hope to win with no draw backs.

CP didn't make this game easy. The game was easy far before it. Bring back the difficulty just after launch (for PvE at least). New dungeons like vWGT and vICP are generically hard (creatures have higher health pools and do greater damage). But as for Azura's, people don't want to spend months (or years in my case) climbing CP totals just to have them removed to bring back a time before they existed. As someone else pointed out, it's not just the CP, it's the gear. The game went in the direction of new gear and extreme damage dealing builds. Don't blame the players for just moving along with it.

I think you seriously underestimate the impact of CP... easy to check, just go into IC in Azura and compare it to a CP IC.. you'll notice how big the difference is.

Pirhana7_ESO

Because I'm scared I'll get beat without CP

attackjet wrote: »

Been playing azuras since tg came out, and let me say, wow! So much better than these big s*** fest campaigns with 50 people on each side running vicious death, the 200v200 horrible lag, the 501 champion point mages who are indestructible. So much better, so much more skill involved. Low populated times its like arenas with only 3v3, and high populated is like 20v20 at most! And guess what? NO LAG.

Oh and not to mention its so easy to get top 20 on leadersboards and get end of the campaign rewards!

I'm pretty much at the beach and you guys are in crowded new York city! Ha!

So to all you "skillful" 501 champion point ogs, or you vet 5 n00bs, why are you not in azuras?

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The non CP campaign is intended for new players that just got to veteran levels so they have a campaign to play in where they can get better, more CPs and play against other like them before they move on to main campaigns. If your a vet 16 playing there its kinda sad. Its basically just preying on the weaker players who haven't gotten to max level.

Why would you not want to play on a normal campaign? you don't like long tern minor pvp character progression? Its capped at 501 CPs..... By teh time you reach V16 you should already have 150 - 200 Cps. the difference between 500 and 200 CPs is very minor because deeper points have a very small return.

Stop picking on noobs in the non CP campaign and move onto the big boy campaign.

Grow some ***

Docmandu

I am in azuras

Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »

you don't like long tern minor pvp character progression?

Emphasis is mine... 25% increase to damage.. you call that minor?!

Steel_Brightblade

I am in azuras

Shame about the dodgy options in this poll, personally I say each to their own. I have reached the cp cap but do enjoy the azuras star fights better than Cp campaigns. I can understand those that have earned the champion points wanting to use them, so to me it comes down to personal taste.

HeroOfNone

I am in azuras

Nice to play on Asura's Star away from the guilds that grinders their way up to 501 cp and then boycotted the campaign because they didn't want to lose the security of their 24 man stacking proxy det zerg. Now that they are peaking out from beneath their security blankets and seeing folks having fun in the other room it will be interesting to see if they will play with folks on a level playing field or if they will throw a tantrum demanding they bring back CPs since it's so much more fair (to them).

Honestly I feel things should be flipped, there should be only one CP campaign and the rest ignore the PVE based CP system. There is no balance or battle leveling on CP and it's a huge hurtle for new players to overcome.

Minalan

Because I'm scared I'll get beat without CP

Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »

attackjet wrote: »

Been playing azuras since tg came out, and let me say, wow! So much better than these big s*** fest campaigns with 50 people on each side running vicious death, the 200v200 horrible lag, the 501 champion point mages who are indestructible. So much better, so much more skill involved. Low populated times its like arenas with only 3v3, and high populated is like 20v20 at most! And guess what? NO LAG.

Oh and not to mention its so easy to get top 20 on leadersboards and get end of the campaign rewards!

I'm pretty much at the beach and you guys are in crowded new York city! Ha!

So to all you "skillful" 501 champion point ogs, or you vet 5 n00bs, why are you not in azuras?

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The non CP campaign is intended for new players that just got to veteran levels so they have a campaign to play in where they can get better, more CPs and play against other like them before they move on to main campaigns. If your a vet 16 playing there its kinda sad. Its basically just preying on the weaker players who haven't gotten to max level.

Why would you not want to play on a normal campaign? you don't like long tern minor pvp character progression? Its capped at 501 CPs..... By teh time you reach V16 you should already have 150 - 200 Cps. the difference between 500 and 200 CPs is very minor because deeper points have a very small return.

Stop picking on noobs in the non CP campaign and move onto the big boy campaign.

Grow some ***

The difference between a V4 and a V16 isn't all that much in a no-CP campaign, it's all about the same with battle-leveling.

The difference between a V16 with 150 CP and a V16 with 500 CP in a CP campaign is still huge, especially if the new v16 hasn't fully geared yet.

So there are plenty of reasons for a V16 to play in a no-cp campaign. Don't hate, it's not like they get a huge advantage.

Sallington

Option 4: I don't want to rework my entire build on multiple characters for a different campaign.

attackjet

I am in azuras

Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »

attackjet wrote: »

Been playing azuras since tg came out, and let me say, wow! So much better than these big s*** fest campaigns with 50 people on each side running vicious death, the 200v200 horrible lag, the 501 champion point mages who are indestructible. So much better, so much more skill involved. Low populated times its like arenas with only 3v3, and high populated is like 20v20 at most! And guess what? NO LAG.

Oh and not to mention its so easy to get top 20 on leadersboards and get end of the campaign rewards!

I'm pretty much at the beach and you guys are in crowded new York city! Ha!

So to all you "skillful" 501 champion point ogs, or you vet 5 n00bs, why are you not in azuras?

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The non CP campaign is intended for new players that just got to veteran levels so they have a campaign to play in where they can get better, more CPs and play against other like them before they move on to main campaigns. If your a vet 16 playing there its kinda sad. Its basically just preying on the weaker players who haven't gotten to max level.

Why would you not want to play on a normal campaign? you don't like long tern minor pvp character progression? Its capped at 501 CPs..... By teh time you reach V16 you should already have 150 - 200 Cps. the difference between 500 and 200 CPs is very minor because deeper points have a very small return.

Stop picking on noobs in the non CP campaign and move onto the big boy campaign.

Grow some ***

Ha! Ok, come to Xbox one na azuras and tell me im praying on n00bs, there are some yellows who are ridiculous and very hard to kill. And 300 cp compared to 500 is a huge difference! You can get a 10-16% (idk) boost to your heavy attacks and also get 25% stamina recovery compared to just one or the other, that makes a huge difference trust me. At only 314 myself, I just don't like the big servers, not my cup of tea.

But yeah, no cp is a lot different compared to cp campaigns, and its not just a bunch of n00bs trust me. And the n00bs that are there, are not just one shot kills who can't do anything about it, but in cp campaigns they kinda are.

RDMyers65b14_ESO

I don't play on Azura's because my guild is not on Azura's. It is that simple. I am slowly inching towards the cap.

Strider_Roshin

I am in azuras

I'm there because I hate being at an advantage, and I agree when there's not a zerg of yellow running around the PvP is top notch. It's also nice not hearing people blame my CP for their loss ;-)

ButtersEP

I don't PvP at all

I don't PVP because the lag is stupid.

Whatzituyah

Sallington wrote: »

Option 4: I don't want to rework my entire build on multiple characters for a different campaign.

Option 5: Azura Star is good for skyshard hunting.

Leandor

Because I don't want to be on it.

UltimaJoe777

attackjet wrote: »

Why are YOU not in azuras star?

Because those who enter get trapped... FOREVER!

Oh wait you're talking about the campaign in ESO.

Pirhana7_ESO

Because I'm scared I'll get beat without CP

Docmandu wrote: »

Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »

you don't like long tern minor pvp character progression?

Emphasis is mine... 25% increase to damage.. you call that minor?!

25% damage is a big deal when fighting NEW players that have no CPs, thats why they have the no cp campaign designed for them to get better in. But having 25% damage against another V16 player that has 150 CPS is actually very minor.

If you have 25% damage increase that means you need 300 Cps, that also means you spent all 100 of that color in the same skill.

By the time a new player hits V16 he should also have atleast 150 Cps when he join the CP campaigns. That same player can put 50 CPS in the same skill lines and have 15% damage. Thats only a 10% difference..... Its not so much, and it still comes down to skill to win for the most part.


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Pirhana7_ESO

Because I'm scared I'll get beat without CP

attackjet wrote: »

Pirhana7_ESO wrote: »

attackjet wrote: »

Been playing azuras since tg came out, and let me say, wow! So much better than these big s*** fest campaigns with 50 people on each side running vicious death, the 200v200 horrible lag, the 501 champion point mages who are indestructible. So much better, so much more skill involved. Low populated times its like arenas with only 3v3, and high populated is like 20v20 at most! And guess what? NO LAG.

Oh and not to mention its so easy to get top 20 on leadersboards and get end of the campaign rewards!

I'm pretty much at the beach and you guys are in crowded new York city! Ha!

So to all you "skillful" 501 champion point ogs, or you vet 5 n00bs, why are you not in azuras?

---

The non CP campaign is intended for new players that just got to veteran levels so they have a campaign to play in where they can get better, more CPs and play against other like them before they move on to main campaigns. If your a vet 16 playing there its kinda sad. Its basically just preying on the weaker players who haven't gotten to max level.

Why would you not want to play on a normal campaign? you don't like long tern minor pvp character progression? Its capped at 501 CPs..... By teh time you reach V16 you should already have 150 - 200 Cps. the difference between 500 and 200 CPs is very minor because deeper points have a very small return.

Stop picking on noobs in the non CP campaign and move onto the big boy campaign.

Grow some ***

Ha! Ok, come to Xbox one na azuras and tell me im praying on n00bs, there are some yellows who are ridiculous and very hard to kill. And 300 cp compared to 500 is a huge difference! You can get a 10-16% (idk) boost to your heavy attacks and also get 25% stamina recovery compared to just one or the other, that makes a huge difference trust me. At only 314 myself, I just don't like the big servers, not my cup of tea.

But yeah, no cp is a lot different compared to cp campaigns, and its not just a bunch of n00bs trust me. And the n00bs that are there, are not just one shot kills who can't do anything about it, but in cp campaigns they kinda are.

Here is the easy break down for you 500 CPs = 5 skills lines with 25% bonus. 250 Cps = 5 skill lines with 15% bonuses, so the difference is only 10% in 5 skills, that not a big advantage.... thats just means the 500CP player has teh edge in a close fight

Pirhana7_ESO

Because I'm scared I'll get beat without CP

HeroOfNone wrote: »

Nice to play on Asura's Star away from the guilds that grinders their way up to 501 cp and then boycotted the campaign because they didn't want to lose the security of their 24 man stacking proxy det zerg. Now that they are peaking out from beneath their security blankets and seeing folks having fun in the other room it will be interesting to see if they will play with folks on a level playing field or if they will throw a tantrum demanding they bring back CPs since it's so much more fair (to them).

Honestly I feel things should be flipped, there should be only one CP campaign and the rest ignore the PVE based CP system. There is no balance or battle leveling on CP and it's a huge hurtle for new players to overcome.

Thats why the Non CP campaigns are designed for the new players! So they can get to V16 and earn CPS so that when they start the CP campaigns they have 150 CPs. They are not ment for vet V16s to be there and prey on the noobs, hindering their progression. The first CPs give teh strongest return so having only 150 CPs actually cuts the bonus advantage a 500 CP player has in half!

Flip the campaigns?....Look at campaign populations.... which ones are mostly full? how are the non CPs campaigns doing?....yah I think that says how most people feel about them. The CP campaigns are already full and there should actually be more them, not more dead non cps campaigns

dereck_phantom

I am in azuras

I'm in it because I don't have enough CP to compete in other campaigns when I go in with 150 cp I get one shotted so the other campaigns are a waste of my time especially when I 1vx easily without CP

VShane

I don't PvP at all

Kwivur wrote: »

What's PvP?

Unless your a Were Penguin, its pointless (Penguin vs Penguin )

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Docmandu

I am in azuras

Maybe a different poll should ask, would you play on a campaign that automatically gives you 501 CP available?

I understand that some people are reluctant to re-gear, but I hope the ones that are of the attitude "I grinded for it, so I deserve to obliterate player Y" are a minority.

Afterall having 501 CP tells nothing about skill.. it's just time played (which could easily have been hours and hours grinding mobs in CWC). My take on it is that being able to pve grind mobs shouldn't give you an edge, also the reason why I dislike games like BDO that turn PvP into a who grinded the most PvE mobs wins.

FloppyTouch

I can't vote no option for I don't like 30 day campaigns

dtm_samuraib16_ESO

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

Lol, troll post is troll. I'm not in Azura's Star because I actually want to use the CP I gained. As far as I'm concerned, AZ is full of pansies that can't stand the fact that someone who put in more time and/or effort into gaining an advantage beat them.

Sounds a lot like someone felt they needed CP to carry them through PvP.

Seems someone forgot not all people can be 30/24, 11/7 behind a PC.
Some have actually a LIFE they have to attend.

dRudE

I am in azuras

Yeah had some really great times in Azura's lately.

Waffennacht

Has anyone pointed out, that with NO CPs and battle spirit, you actually have better stats at lvl 38 than a v16?

That's one reason to avoid it.

Also, if I have 501 and my opponent has 501, in what way is that not balanced?

mr_wazzabi

Because I'm scared I'll get beat without CP

I don't want to need to craft sustain gear to keep my resources up due to no 25% regen from arcanist cp.

We've played with cp for over a year, so playing without them is like learning to play the game all over again. Don't have the time for that.