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Concept: Veteran World Difficulty in Alliance Zones
UltimaJoe777
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What if after you complete Cadwell's Gold you unlocked a Veteran World Difficulty Option for every zone in every alliance? Well here is what it could be like:
- When you choose Veteran World Difficulty all alliance zones are VR11-VR15 (will change to match this level when VRs go out the window however Zenimax sees fit). For example Auridon has VR11 NPCs/Mobs and Reaper's March has VR15 NPCs/Mobs. Also you will be seperated from those playing Normal World Difficulty.
- A brand new storyline for each alliance becomes available. This storyline is basically a continuation of the previous storyline and deals with incidents and issues after securing the alliance's foundation. Have fun with this one Zenimax
- The storylines will offer a chance to acquire more Skill Points which could aid in future Skill Lines available via DLC, and serve as an alternative to having to go to Cyrodiil for some (benefit for players that prefer to avoid Cyrodiil).
- World Bosses have a chance to shine the way they do in DLC zones, and may even have more to offer us depending on what Zenimax decides to throw us In fact that would be a great time to introduce alliance-based dailies 
- Insert other concept perks here.
- When you choose Veteran World Difficulty all alliance zones are VR11-VR15 (will change to match this level when VRs go out the window however Zenimax sees fit). For example Auridon has VR11 NPCs/Mobs and Reaper's March has VR15 NPCs/Mobs. Also you will be seperated from those playing Normal World Difficulty.
- A brand new storyline for each alliance becomes available. This storyline is basically a continuation of the previous storyline and deals with incidents and issues after securing the alliance's foundation. Have fun with this one Zenimax
- The storylines will offer a chance to acquire more Skill Points which could aid in future Skill Lines available via DLC, and serve as an alternative to having to go to Cyrodiil for some (benefit for players that prefer to avoid Cyrodiil).
- World Bosses have a chance to shine the way they do in DLC zones, and may even have more to offer us depending on what Zenimax decides to throw us
In fact that would be a great time to introduce alliance-based dailies - Insert other concept perks here.
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✭Guess you didn't get the memo that VR ranks are being removed with Dark Brotherhood.Edited by dday3six on April 8, 2016 8:21PM0 -
UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Guess you didn't get the memo that VR ranks are being removed with Dark Brother.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »- When you choose Veteran World Difficulty all alliance zones are VR11-VR15 (will change to match this level when VRs go out the window however Zenimax sees fit).
In case I was unclear the bold part means that whatever Zenimax does to replace Vet Ranks is what will apply instead. As it stands right now that is how it would be if this concept were in the game.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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dday3six✭✭✭✭✭
✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Guess you didn't get the memo that VR ranks are being removed with Dark Brother.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »- When you choose Veteran World Difficulty all alliance zones are VR11-VR15 (will change to match this level when VRs go out the window however Zenimax sees fit).
In case I was unclear the bold part means that whatever Zenimax does to replace Vet Ranks is what will apply instead. As it stands right now that is how it would be if this concept were in the game.
So you don't even know what ZOS plans to do to replace VR, but you want a new game+ is that about the jist of it?0 -
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✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Guess you didn't get the memo that VR ranks are being removed with Dark Brother.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »- When you choose Veteran World Difficulty all alliance zones are VR11-VR15 (will change to match this level when VRs go out the window however Zenimax sees fit).
In case I was unclear the bold part means that whatever Zenimax does to replace Vet Ranks is what will apply instead. As it stands right now that is how it would be if this concept were in the game.
So you don't even know what ZOS plans to do to replace VR, but you want a new game+ is that about the jist of it?
It isn't new game+ it's basically like Cadwell's Silver and Gold but with all 3 alliances and all at the same level (but it isn't a Cadwell's Platinum or anything just an optional difficulty players can partake in). Think of it as non-DLC soloable endgame as opposed to things like Craglorn.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭✭✭✭✭Parts of this idea...most of it, are within another thread.
Specific to you ideas tho, this is not something I'd be interested in. I'm extremely impatient about the removal of all VR systems and levels. Not really excited about any CP conversions so this would not be something I'd particularly choose or like to see.
Here is the opportunity tho.
Take all of silver and gold out...completely and replace ALL Silver and gold with a different story line based on the faction you started in as '100% optional' content. Heck even make it paid DLC but the existing skill point quests , lore books, etc from silver and gold should all be moved to the levels 1-50 experiences first. Shards would then count 1 as 3 int he 1-50 zones which would have impacts to DLC and Cyrodil butt...just sharing
If there was a sweeping change, that would be the only thing that would interest me.
Just sharing a different perspectiveEdited by NewBlacksmurf on April 8, 2016 8:40PM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Guess you didn't get the memo that VR ranks are being removed with Dark Brother.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »- When you choose Veteran World Difficulty all alliance zones are VR11-VR15 (will change to match this level when VRs go out the window however Zenimax sees fit).
In case I was unclear the bold part means that whatever Zenimax does to replace Vet Ranks is what will apply instead. As it stands right now that is how it would be if this concept were in the game.
So you don't even know what ZOS plans to do to replace VR, but you want a new game+ is that about the jist of it?
It isn't new game+ it's basically like Cadwell's Silver and Gold but with all 3 alliances and all at the same level (but it isn't a Cadwell's Platinum or anything just an optional difficulty players can partake in). Think of it as non-DLC soloable endgame as opposed to things like Craglorn.
You know I don't agre with ZOS often, but at the end of the day they are a business, and it makes little financial sense to spend development on a massive base game upgrade like you're talking. They aren't just going to fork over loads of free content, and it's rather rapacious to expect them to.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It is a little weird that, once you hit VR, the only content you can really do to serve your alliance is Cyrodiil. I would love to see whole new questlines for the alliances post MQ.
It'll never happen, though. The only time a company is going to shell out the money for factioned content is in development. In post-release, it just doesn't make as much sense.
Think about it: If they put out faction-specific content, that means they have to devote three times as much resources for the same amount of content as you'd get in one non-faction DLC. Not everyone plays all alliances, so to those who only play one would get a third as much to do as those who play all alliances. They would scream bloody murder.
The cost-to-return ratio just isn't worth it.
It would be a nice touch if every piece of content down the road had one or two things for specific factions to do, though."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle0 -
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✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Guess you didn't get the memo that VR ranks are being removed with Dark Brother.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »- When you choose Veteran World Difficulty all alliance zones are VR11-VR15 (will change to match this level when VRs go out the window however Zenimax sees fit).
In case I was unclear the bold part means that whatever Zenimax does to replace Vet Ranks is what will apply instead. As it stands right now that is how it would be if this concept were in the game.
So you don't even know what ZOS plans to do to replace VR, but you want a new game+ is that about the jist of it?
It isn't new game+ it's basically like Cadwell's Silver and Gold but with all 3 alliances and all at the same level (but it isn't a Cadwell's Platinum or anything just an optional difficulty players can partake in). Think of it as non-DLC soloable endgame as opposed to things like Craglorn.
You know I don't agre with ZOS often, but at the end of the day they are a business, and it makes little financial sense to spend development on a massive base game upgrade like you're talking. They aren't just going to fork over loads of free content, and it's rather rapacious to expect them to.
I don't expect them to. I'm just throwing the concept out there is all.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Zanen✭✭✭How the removal of veteran ranks is implemented will make or break ESO's future.
There has to be a mechanism to scale content difficulty to Champion rank and provide relevant rewards.
Champion is a difficulty scaling nightmare as things are.
I'm desperately hoping the reason they've taken so long is that they're taking the time to do it right.
I miss having relevant mechanics to deal with in PVE, that weren't negated by stat inflation, which hasn't really been a thing since shortly after launch now.0 -
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✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Guess you didn't get the memo that VR ranks are being removed with Dark Brother.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »- When you choose Veteran World Difficulty all alliance zones are VR11-VR15 (will change to match this level when VRs go out the window however Zenimax sees fit).
In case I was unclear the bold part means that whatever Zenimax does to replace Vet Ranks is what will apply instead. As it stands right now that is how it would be if this concept were in the game.
So you don't even know what ZOS plans to do to replace VR, but you want a new game+ is that about the jist of it?
It isn't new game+ it's basically like Cadwell's Silver and Gold but with all 3 alliances and all at the same level (but it isn't a Cadwell's Platinum or anything just an optional difficulty players can partake in). Think of it as non-DLC soloable endgame as opposed to things like Craglorn.
You know I don't agre with ZOS often, but at the end of the day they are a business, and it makes little financial sense to spend development on a massive base game upgrade like you're talking. They aren't just going to fork over loads of free content, and it's rather rapacious to expect them to.
I don't expect them to. I'm just throwing the concept out there is all.
As most people here do.It's what the forums were created for. 0 -
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✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Guess you didn't get the memo that VR ranks are being removed with Dark Brother.UltimaJoe777 wrote: »- When you choose Veteran World Difficulty all alliance zones are VR11-VR15 (will change to match this level when VRs go out the window however Zenimax sees fit).
In case I was unclear the bold part means that whatever Zenimax does to replace Vet Ranks is what will apply instead. As it stands right now that is how it would be if this concept were in the game.
So you don't even know what ZOS plans to do to replace VR, but you want a new game+ is that about the jist of it?
It isn't new game+ it's basically like Cadwell's Silver and Gold but with all 3 alliances and all at the same level (but it isn't a Cadwell's Platinum or anything just an optional difficulty players can partake in). Think of it as non-DLC soloable endgame as opposed to things like Craglorn.
You know I don't agre with ZOS often, but at the end of the day they are a business, and it makes little financial sense to spend development on a massive base game upgrade like you're talking. They aren't just going to fork over loads of free content, and it's rather rapacious to expect them to.
I don't expect them to. I'm just throwing the concept out there is all.
As most people here do.It's what the forums were created for.
Indeed lol but this game is not on its deathbed by any means so even if it takes 5 years there is always a chance someone's suggestion will come.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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