Try to design a stamina set to outdo VD in dark brotherhood.

Teridaxus

My attempt:
Glorious karma set:
2 set: Stam recovery
3 set: Stam recovery
4 set: Allows to regen stamina during block
5 set: Everytime you block an attack, the blocked damage gets stored inside you which releases upon death in as 15 meter aoe. The explosion affects builduings too.

Try to be imaginative instead of something like a nuke snipe or mega wrecking blow^^

PrinceFabious

Stamina builds already have the shuffle exploit. You guys DO NOT need any sorts of crazy sets until that bug is fixed

Jaronking

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Stamina builds already have the shuffle exploit. You guys DO NOT need any sorts of crazy sets until that bug is fixed

It still haven't even been determined if it is a exploit or not.So until then its working as intended.

Forestd16b14_ESO

Glorious karma set:
2 set: Stam recovery
3 set: Stam recovery
4 set: Allows to regen stamina during sprinting and sneaking.
5 set: Everytime you block an attack, the blocked damage gets stored inside you which releases upon death in as 15 meter aoe. The explosion affects builduings too.

FIXED**

Stamina regen while blocking only belongs to tank players.

HoloYoitsu

Didn't you watch ESO Live? Who needs a stam set when you'll be executing zergs with reverse slice?

Karamis_Vimardon

Glorious karma set:
2 set: Stam recovery
3 set: Stam recovery
4 set: Allows to regen stamina during sprinting and sneaking.
5 set: Every time you hold block, the blocked damage gets stored inside you until releasing block, exploding in a 15 meter radius. The explosion affects buildings too.

More OP now.

manny254

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Stamina builds already have the shuffle exploit. You guys DO NOT need any sorts of crazy sets until that bug is fixed

You realize there is no shuffle exploit right?

PrinceFabious

manny254 wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Stamina builds already have the shuffle exploit. You guys DO NOT need any sorts of crazy sets until that bug is fixed

You realize there is no shuffle exploit right?

Oh Im sorry..the shuffle "bug" my bad

DHale

Yeah as soon as shuffle is fixed a lot of pseudo one v X ers are going to get thier come uppins. No ap for you.

KenaPKK

Horrible logic.

We don't need more one shot sets. VD is serving its purpose, which is spreading out the zerglings and punishing guilds that clump too closely. Every build in the game does not "deserve" the ability to do that just because one has it.

There is no reason to go "well if they get it, I need it too!" That is the argument of a child. If stam gets some *** one shot set, then I want a magicka morph of Vigor that gives a heavier HoT and applies snare immunity, and I want magicka Caltrops, and I want Wall of Elements to be an execute like 'nado, and I want a magicka morph of Leap, and I want a magicka DK gap closer.

You give magicka those things, and then we'll talk about a stam version of VD.

I mean, who needs build diversity anyway?

DHale wrote: »

Yeah as soon as shuffle is fixed a lot of pseudo one v X ers are going to get thier come uppins. No ap for you.

Can't wait for this. The rolly pollies have it coming.

Zheg

KenaPKK wrote: »

Horrible logic.

We don't need more one shot sets. VD is serving its purpose, which is spreading out the zerglings and punishing guilds that clump too closely. Every build in the game does not "deserve" the ability to do that just because one has it.

There is no reason to go "well if they get it, I need it too!" That is the argument of a child. If stam gets some *** one shot set, then I want a magicka morph of Vigor that gives a heavier HoT and applies snare immunity, and I want magicka Caltrops, and I want Wall of Elements to be an execute like 'nado, and I want a magicka morph of Leap, and I want a magicka DK gap closer.

You give magicka those things, and then we'll talk about a stam version of VD.

I mean, who needs build diversity anyway?

DHale wrote: »

Yeah as soon as shuffle is fixed a lot of pseudo one v X ers are going to get thier come uppins. No ap for you.

Can't wait for this. The rolly pollies have it coming.

It's not really doing either Kena. I've seen far bigger zergs in this patch (for a number of reasons), and guilds still condense to do damage. Prox det will make me tell people to dodge and scatter if there are enough of them incoming, but it's not because of VD. The number of KBs people in our guild get with that set is atrocious. Most people that would be running VD are fully equipped in it, all it's doing is contributing to an excessive damage meta where a one to two second ping spike can result in your death because it takes even less time to blow up to something you didn't even know was there. I fully agree that we don't need more one shot sets, we need less.

Ajax_22

Wroble's Ballance set:
2 set: Reverse Slice is now an AOE with a 15m radius.
3 set: Reverse Slice ignores all damage shields, dodge effects, and blocking. (Any Templars standing in their own Rune Focus will be imune to Reverse Slice due to House Protection Buff.)
4 set: Any target above 25% health hit by Reverse Slice will automatically receive enough damage to bring them down to 25% Health.
5 set: Any target below 26% health hit by Reverse Slice will be instantly killed, and a damage shield equal to the total amount of damage done to all targets will be placed on the player. The damage shield has no timer, and will last until fully destroyed. Each kill with Reverse Slice will increase the effect of the damage shield.

Zyle

2: Stam
3: Stam Recovery
4: Weapon Damage
5: Enemies executed in caltrops viciously explode for 18000 damage

Van_0S

Ajax_22 wrote: »

Wroble's Ballance set:
2 set: Reverse Slice is now an AOE with a 15m radius.
3 set: Reverse Slice ignores all damage shields, dodge effects, and blocking. (Any Templars standing in their own Rune Focus will be imune to Reverse Slice due to House Protection Buff.)
4 set: Any target above 25% health hit by Reverse Slice will automatically receive enough damage to bring them down to 25% Health.
5 set: Any target below 26% health hit by Reverse Slice will be instantly killed, and a damage shield equal to the total amount of damage done to all targets will be placed on the player. The damage shield has no timer, and will last until fully destroyed. Each kill with Reverse Slice will increase the effect of the damage shield.

I am 90% sure this will be implemented.
Combo: Rally+crit rush then reverse slice.

WillhelmBlack

That set would just make magicka builds OP AF.

rolandlu7prb18_ESO

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Stamina builds already have the shuffle exploit. You guys DO NOT need any sorts of crazy sets until that bug is fixed

First time heard this, could you describe what kind of exploit it is?

Brrrofski

No no no.

Vd needs to.

Proxy needs to do like 2k on single target and increase 100% per additional person in radius.

The whole det and vd thing is absurd. It isn't just to bomb zergs. Small groups need to stay tight when fighting bigger groups. It's ridiculous. Whoever had the vd idea needs sacking. Seriously. They are responsible for making the game significantly worse for x amount of time until it's fixed. Sack the guy.

So no stam sets to equal or better this. It takes no skill to kill groups in the current meta. Well it does. Counting. If you can count, you're good to go.

HoloYoitsu

Brrrofski wrote: »

No no no.

Vd needs to.

Proxy needs to do like 2k on single target and increase 100% per additional person in radius.

The whole det and vd thing is absurd. It isn't just to bomb zergs. Small groups need to stay tight when fighting bigger groups. It's ridiculous. Whoever had the vd idea needs sacking. Seriously. They are responsible for making the game significantly worse for x amount of time until it's fixed. Sack the guy.

So no stam sets to equal or better this. It takes no skill to kill groups in the current meta. Well it does. Counting. If you can count, you're good to go.

But but but,

Also....my addons count how many targets there are for me.

Vangy

KenaPKK wrote: »

Horrible logic.

We don't need more one shot sets. VD is serving its purpose, which is spreading out the zerglings and punishing guilds that clump too closely. Every build in the game does not "deserve" the ability to do that just because one has it.

There is no reason to go "well if they get it, I need it too!" That is the argument of a child. If stam gets some *** one shot set, then I want a magicka morph of Vigor that gives a heavier HoT and applies snare immunity, and I want magicka Caltrops, and I want Wall of Elements to be an execute like 'nado, and I want a magicka morph of Leap, and I want a magicka DK gap closer.

You give magicka those things, and then we'll talk about a stam version of VD.

I mean, who needs build diversity anyway?

DHale wrote: »

Yeah as soon as shuffle is fixed a lot of pseudo one v X ers are going to get thier come uppins. No ap for you.

Can't wait for this. The rolly pollies have it coming.

Sure. You can have all those. I also want 50% of class skills to be stamina based and scale off weapon damage too. Pls?

While we'r at it, if you have shields on, no magicka regen for you too.

I also wanna be able to heal pledges and trials as a stamina toon....

Give me all this and you can have whatever you asked for too.


Jokes aside, VD needs to GTFO this game. Proxy needs its damage under 5 targets nerfed into the ground. If hitting less than 5 players, it should do like 1k damage. Then make its damage scale exponentially when hitting more than 5 up to a cap of 20k. This would take away power from zergs and let smaller groups actually able to do something. Right now on my vamp sorc and magblade, its not even funny how much AP im raking in by blowing up newbcakes. GG PvP.

olsborg

Id rather they remove the debuff to selfhealing with vigor from lekis focus, noone in their right mind will be using this set in its current state. Vigor, the bread and butter heal for every stambuild healing for 25% less....I dont know what @Wrobel is thinking, the 5th set bonus is more negative then positive.

Ghostbane

Glorious Karma Set:

2) Weapon Damage
3) Weapon Damage
4) Weapon Damage
5) Radius of Steel Tornado is increased by 7 miles, and damage increased 1400%. Godspeed.

KenaPKK

Ghostbane wrote: »

Glorious Karma Set:

2) Weapon Damage
3) Weapon Damage
4) Weapon Damage
5) Radius of Steel Tornado is increased by 7 miles, and damage increased 1400%. Godspeed.

10/10 would wear on my magicka build.

Destyran

2max stam
3 weapdamage
4weapon damage
5 echoing resolve increases range of steel tornado by 5m and increases damage by 5 percent per player can be stacked 5 times if a player dies to a max stacked tornado create a echo causing killed players to echo your tornado

Or
5 no AOE caps

themdogesbite

Whats the damn crying about stamina builds? It's been the absolute best choice to play from 1.6 to thiefs guild.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Set of Sheos Madness
2) + spell/weapon dmg
3) + (1/2) magicka/stamina
4) + (1/2) magicka/stamina recovery
5) swaps the cost and damage type/modifier of all abilities.


E.g. proxy becomes a stamina ability based on weapon dmg
steel tornado becomes magicka based on spell dmg etc...

think of the possibilities (stam whip) etc

you could 1 bar it so that you can make some cool builds etc....
Or if that's too hard to code just body items

Soulac

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

Set of Sheos Madness
2) + spell/weapon dmg
3) + (1/2) magicka/stamina
4) + (1/2) magicka/stamina recovery
5) swaps the cost and damage type/modifier of all abilities.


E.g. proxy becomes a stamina ability based on weapon dmg
steel tornado becomes magicka based on spell dmg etc...

think of the possibilities (stam whip) etc

you could 1 bar it so that you can make some cool builds etc....
Or if that's too hard to code just body items

It will probably delete all our chars. That's how bugged it will be.

PrinceFabious

rolandlu7prb18_ESO wrote: »

PrinceFabious wrote: »

Stamina builds already have the shuffle exploit. You guys DO NOT need any sorts of crazy sets until that bug is fixed

First time heard this, could you describe what kind of exploit it is?

Its a bug where shuffle would grant aboht 90-100% dodge chance with a combination of dodge rolling and hitting shuffle at a certain. There is a reason all the so called "1vXers" run the same build. I used the skill "blur" in the assassin skill tree and I dont get the 100% dodge chance. Ive talked to a few of these guys and the response I get is that they KNOW there is a bug to it but they themselves dont know how they are triggering it. ZOS, fix it

Anti_Virus

Vangy wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Horrible logic.

We don't need more one shot sets. VD is serving its purpose, which is spreading out the zerglings and punishing guilds that clump too closely. Every build in the game does not "deserve" the ability to do that just because one has it.

There is no reason to go "well if they get it, I need it too!" That is the argument of a child. If stam gets some *** one shot set, then I want a magicka morph of Vigor that gives a heavier HoT and applies snare immunity, and I want magicka Caltrops, and I want Wall of Elements to be an execute like 'nado, and I want a magicka morph of Leap, and I want a magicka DK gap closer.

You give magicka those things, and then we'll talk about a stam version of VD.

I mean, who needs build diversity anyway?

DHale wrote: »

Yeah as soon as shuffle is fixed a lot of pseudo one v X ers are going to get thier come uppins. No ap for you.

Can't wait for this. The rolly pollies have it coming.

Sure. You can have all those. I also want 50% of class skills to be stamina based and scale off weapon damage too. Pls?

While we'r at it, if you have shields on, no magicka regen for you too.

I also wanna be able to heal pledges and trials as a stamina toon....

Give me all this and you can have whatever you asked for too.


Jokes aside, VD needs to GTFO this game. Proxy needs its damage under 5 targets nerfed into the ground. If hitting less than 5 players, it should do like 1k damage. Then make its damage scale exponentially when hitting more than 5 up to a cap of 20k. This would take away power from zergs and let smaller groups actually able to do something. Right now on my vamp sorc and magblade, its not even funny how much AP im raking in by blowing up newbcakes. GG PvP.

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Ghost-Shot

themdogesbite wrote: »

Whats the damn crying about stamina builds? It's been the absolute best choice to play from 1.6 to thiefs guild.

Apparently a year of being broken af was not enough for them and now that there is a reason to play magicka again they can't stand it.

HoloYoitsu

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

themdogesbite wrote: »

Whats the damn crying about stamina builds? It's been the absolute best choice to play from 1.6 to thiefs guild.

Apparently a year of being broken af was not enough for them and now that there is a reason to play magicka again they can't stand it.

You know with all this shouting of nerf mag, nerf stam, I think what's really being overlooked and something we can all get behind is: nerf health!

Just think of it, if everyone had 1 HP, stacking would be fixed. Zergs would be fixed. No more balance changes would ever be needed. Perma blocking QQ could end. 1vX QQ would end. Shield QQ would end, just use shield breaker. Ect

Ghost-Shot

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

themdogesbite wrote: »

Whats the damn crying about stamina builds? It's been the absolute best choice to play from 1.6 to thiefs guild.

Apparently a year of being broken af was not enough for them and now that there is a reason to play magicka again they can't stand it.

You know with all this shouting of nerf mag, nerf stam, I think what's really being overlooked and something we can all get behind is: nerf health!

Just think of it, if everyone had 1 HP, stacking would be fixed. Zergs would be fixed. No more balance changes would ever be needed. Perma blocking QQ could end. 1vX QQ would end. Shield QQ would end, just use shield breaker. Ect

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