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Healing Taken vs Healing Recieved...

Djeriko
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Can someone explain what the difference is between items that say increased "healing taken" and items or skills that say increased "healing recieved"?

Are they different or are they the same? If they are the same then why say both taken and received? I suspect they are the same thing so I would expect all should be "healing received" so you get more healing. Healing taken could also refer to health stolen from enemies via siphoning skill tree for NB's or burning embers and flame lash for DK's. So which is it?

Are they different or are they the same and just the dev's decided to type it differently for no apparent reason?

Thoughts?
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  • Darkonflare15
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    Djeriko wrote: »
    Can someone explain what the difference is between items that say increased "healing taken" and items or skills that say increased "healing recieved"?

    Are they different or are they the same? If they are the same then why say both taken and received? I suspect they are the same thing so I would expect all should be "healing received" so you get more healing. Healing taken could also refer to health stolen from enemies via siphoning skill tree for NB's or burning embers and flame lash for DK's. So which is it?

    Are they different or are they the same and just the dev's decided to type it differently for no apparent reason?

    Thoughts?

    Well healing taken is just like you said is healing increase from stealing life while healing received is the amount of healing you will reciecved from all types of sources. So one is specific to life steal while the other one is a general increase of healing. Healing received is going to be how well you are healed, so how people heal you and how well you heal yourself no matter the source.
  • Shelgon
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    What ability or buff says healing taken?
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  • Reorx_Holybeard
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    To quote another post which answers this:
    • Healing Taken is when you suck the life out of a mob like with the Siphon Skills.
    • Healing Done is when you heal someone else.
    • Healing Received is any healing you get from *any* source such as a potion, a spell or a skill.

    From Asayre's theorycrafting post the healing equation is:
    Heal = Tooltip * HealingDone * HealingReceived * HealingTaken
    

    It would seem from this that Healing Received and Taken stack multiplicatively so if you happened to have both effects on you when you used a siphon/leech you'd get the combined effect. For example if you had 5% Healing Received and 8% Healing Taken the combined effect would be 13.4% (1.05*1.08 = 1.134).
    Edited by Reorx_Holybeard on April 3, 2016 6:28PM
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  • Djeriko
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    Djeriko wrote: »
    Can someone explain what the difference is between items that say increased "healing taken" and items or skills that say increased "healing recieved"?

    Are they different or are they the same? If they are the same then why say both taken and received? I suspect they are the same thing so I would expect all should be "healing received" so you get more healing. Healing taken could also refer to health stolen from enemies via siphoning skill tree for NB's or burning embers and flame lash for DK's. So which is it?

    Are they different or are they the same and just the dev's decided to type it differently for no apparent reason?

    Thoughts?

    Well healing taken is just like you said is healing increase from stealing life while healing received is the amount of healing you will reciecved from all types of sources. So one is specific to life steal while the other one is a general increase of healing. Healing received is going to be how well you are healed, so how people heal you and how well you heal yourself no matter the source.
    To quote another post which answers this:
    • Healing Taken is when you suck the life out of a mob like with the Siphon Skills.
    • Healing Done is when you heal someone else.
    • Healing Received is any healing you get from *any* source such as a potion, a spell or a skill.

    From Asayre's theorycrafting post the healing equation is:
    Heal = Tooltip * HealingDone * HealingReceived * HealingTaken
    

    It would seem from this that Healing Received and Taken stack multiplicatively so if you happened to have both effects on you when you used a siphon/leech you'd get the combined effect. For example if you had 5% Healing Received and 8% Healing Taken the combined effect would be 13.4% (1.05*1.08 = 1.134).

    Thanks for that guys. I wanted to clear that up and it looks like I am not the only one that didn't understand that.
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  • runagate
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    To quote another post which answers this:
    • Healing Taken is when you suck the life out of a mob like with the Siphon Skills.
    • Healing Done is when you heal someone else.
    • Healing Received is any healing you get from *any* source such as a potion, a spell or a skill.

    From Asayre's theorycrafting post the healing equation is:
    Heal = Tooltip * HealingDone * HealingReceived * HealingTaken
    

    It would seem from this that Healing Received and Taken stack multiplicatively so if you happened to have both effects on you when you used a siphon/leech you'd get the combined effect. For example if you had 5% Healing Received and 8% Healing Taken the combined effect would be 13.4% (1.05*1.08 = 1.134).

    I had no idea about this and appreciate the information greatly, not least as one of my characters is a stam sorc and very much relies on self-heals, so I'd be interested in boosting this via some means of "healing taken."
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