[Bug] Thaumaturge Boosts Non-DoT Abilities!!

Kammakazi

Thought this guy was lying but my tooltips were actually affected.

So the question is... a bigger tooltip or higher critical damage (Elfborn)?

0 Points in Elemental Expert & 0 Points in Thaumaturge

• 5241 Lotus Fan
• 3929 Sap Essence
• 5896 Funnel Health
• 890 Refreshing Path
• 10100 Crippling Grasp
• 8644 Soul Tether
• 10492 Soul Harvest

100 Points in Elemental Expert & 0 Points in Thaumaturge

• 6763 Lotus Fan
• 5070 Sap Essence
• 7608 Funnel Health
• 1147 Refreshing Path
• 13060 Crippling Grasp
• 11179 Soul Tether
• 13540 Soul Harvest

100 Points in Elemental Expert & 67 Points in Thaumaturge

• 7785 Lotus Fan
• 5836 Sap Essence
• 8758 Funnel Health
• 1320 Refreshing Path
• 15035 Crippling Grasp
• 12869 Soul Tether
• 15586 Soul Harvest

Yusuf

your max magicka increases with every point into a blue star so i'm not entirely sure whether it has something to do with thaumaturge.

psychotic13

Yusuf wrote: »

your max magicka increases with every point into a blue star so i'm not entirely sure whether it has something to do with thaumaturge.

This, you should try 100 in elemental expert and the rest in something else see if it still causes an increase.

AfkNinja

Lotus Fan = DOT
Refreshing Path = DOT
Crippling Grasp = DOT

Is Funnel Health being considered a DOT from the HOT? Soul Tether also has a HOT component it must be counting if that is the case.

Soul Harvest no idea why it's counting this. Bug if confirmed.

mr_wazzabi

Kammakazi wrote: »

Thought this guy was lying but my tooltips were actually affected.

So the question is... a bigger tooltip or higher critical damage (Elfborn)?

0 Points in Elemental Expert & 0 Points in Thaumaturge

• 5241 Lotus Fan
• 3929 Sap Essence
• 5896 Funnel Health
• 890 Refreshing Path
• 10100 Crippling Grasp
• 8644 Soul Tether
• 10492 Soul Harvest

100 Points in Elemental Expert & 0 Points in Thaumaturge

• 6763 Lotus Fan
• 5070 Sap Essence
• 7608 Funnel Health
• 1147 Refreshing Path
• 13060 Crippling Grasp
• 11179 Soul Tether
• 13540 Soul Harvest

100 Points in Elemental Expert & 67 Points in Thaumaturge

• 7785 Lotus Fan
• 5836 Sap Essence
• 8758 Funnel Health
• 1320 Refreshing Path
• 15035 Crippling Grasp
• 12869 Soul Tether
• 15586 Soul Harvest

Try 100 elemental expert and 67 elfborn or 67 blessed. See if you get the same results as 100 ele + 67 thaum

DKsUnite

It's effects the tooltip but not the actual damage

Nighn_9

lol u thought i was lying? xD

code65536

First, as people pointed out, for a fair comparison, you should always have 167 mage points spent somewhere. Each mage point spent (anywhere) boosts max magicka and tooltip damage.

Second, there's been talk that the tooltip damage is bugged and does not accurately affect actual damage (for a very long time, Elemental Expert did not affect tooltip damage). The only way to test is to use a damage log and see what these abilities are actually hitting for, not what the tooltip tells you.

RAGUNAnoOne

code65536 wrote: »

First, as people pointed out, for a fair comparison, you should always have 167 mage points spent somewhere. Each mage point spent (anywhere) boosts max magicka and tooltip damage.

Second, there's been talk that the tooltip damage is bugged and does not accurately affect actual damage (for a very long time, Elemental Expert did not affect tooltip damage). The only way to test is to use a damage log and see what these abilities are actually hitting for, not what the tooltip tells you.

this ^^ turn on the combat text and test funnel and cripple on the same enemy with different CP allotments

SmalltalkJava

2016 and tool tips don't work. LOL.

Toc de Malsvi

So...

Actual DoT components:
Lotus Fan(does damage over time as part of an aoe effect)
Crippling Grasp(this is just a standard DoT)
Refreshing Path(AOE DoT not sure how you thought this wouldn't be one)
Soul Tether(if you stay in range of target after casting it says it sucks health from them and into you)


Not Actual DoTs:
Funnel Health
Soul Harvest
Sap Essence

All of the non-DoT abilities have components that work over time without doing damage, such as a self buff for 20s, a debuff for 6s, and a HoT. My guess is poor coding tagged these guys as DoTs without Really looking at what they actually do.