Veteran /Normal Maw of Lorkhaj trial Discussion

Latter

Let me put it like this.

When we attempted the first boss of vMoL with horrible gear and no cps we all agreed it was 1000 times more fun then any Sanctum run we did for 4+ months.

If you're not willing to practice and progress then raiding really isn't for you, it's supposed to take months and hundreds of hours to clear, that's what all the major guilds did their best to tell Zenimax in the Council of Raiders meetings.

Waseem

Toraf wrote: »

***... God... pls not another nerf trade about difficulty...
All the time there's difficulty in this game ppl instant QQ.
vMOL is good and It's the only HL guild content we have. Just don't nerf it...

nerf threads are mandatory for the life of the forums bro, its all what its about
people agree/disagree etc
people insult OP, eachother and agree/disagree etc
thats the forum.

Kilnerdyne

Can't win? Join the forum and start Nerf thread.

Morathras

@Zos, i swear to god if you nerf this raid you will lose your main players forever! my whole guild will leave this game. just dont do the same mistake you did with sanctum

MaxTM

Hey Waseem i think the community just wants you to be quiet and L2P

Menelaos

Waseem wrote: »

i am against 1000 hours losing

Then don't do vMoL. Read a nice lorebook instead, level your ice comet or evil hunter or knock a few heads in Cyrodiil. The game is so diverse, you sure will find other things to do. I hear there are guilds doing swimming around Auridon contests, maybe chime in there?

Kyoma

Either don't do it if it's not enough fun compared to the difficulty or l2p.

Xjcon

Waseem wrote: »

Xjcon wrote: »

Come on OP....you screen shot a number 1 spot on the leaderboard and show your friends that you spend most of your time playing a video game to get NUMBER 1, RAWR.

1)im nowhere on/near #1 on any ESO PvX related thing atm (made emperor last year though)
2)i play for fun, but i have my shares of attempting to doing my best regarding content/leaderboards.
3)i dont need to show my friends that i am NUMBER 1, its not like i can write that on my resume for next job application XD
4)correct your argument

I'm sorry but my comment was pure sarcasm and you took it as a serious statement. Good day sir.

Xjcon

Morathras wrote: »

@Zos, i swear to god if you nerf this raid you will lose your main players forever! my whole guild will leave this game. just dont do the same mistake you did with sanctum

I'm sorry but this made me LOL.

LadyNalcarya

Waseem wrote: »

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

There should be content for everyone, OP.
And some people actually enjoy it, so why not? You can still get the sets from other trial weeklies (there's much more spots now by the way so its doable with average group) or from normal version. There's still Zos style rng crap like staves of stamina sets though, but that's the case in actual trial as well.

Yeah i have inferno sharpened twilight remedy staff and lunar bastion sharpened sword which i'll never use any thanks to AA weekly
but still. im from those who likes to do any/everything in the game- to play every aspect. and atm the vMoL is a roadblock
and maybe i made it wrong to ask for nerf and should have done it ZOS style instead nerfing the dungeon, buff all the players by 200% XD hint: craglorn trials current case
thus we can do the content

Its the same rng as you'd have in actual trial. Loot system and itemization is a huge problem of this game, but beating a trial is not related to rng. Like in vMA - beating it is not that hard, but getting weapons can be insanely hard.
If you want to do everything in game, then build a good group and practice. Its supposed to be a difficult trial, but not all achievements should be handed to you. If you want the achievement, then put some effort. Eventually strategy will be revealed, like it happened to SO, and with a good group and team coordination you will be able to beat it. Of course, if you're good enough. If not, then you might wait a bit more until it becomes easier because of power creep.
Ah, you dont have to wait? Well, maybe there's another achievements you dont have so you have time to get them. I dont believe that you have every single achievement except vMoL. If I'm wrong, post a screen pls.

Morathras

@Xjcon, lol as hard as you want, but it already happened^^

Ra'Shtar

You think ESO raids/trials are difficult? LOL you must have never played an MMO with actual raiding then, this is relaxing compared to raids in other MMOs.

Xjcon

Morathras wrote: »

@Xjcon, lol as hard as you want, but it already happened^^

You're saying people are leaving because VMOL got nerfed? People leave for many reasons. I've witnessed it since 1.6. I LOL because it's the same statement the stomping feet PVP players make in all their arguments.

Vigarr

Does it normally take hours to complete 1 trial or does your group suck? I was looking forward to these later in game but my life doesn't afford me the luxury of playing uninterrupted for hours at a time.

EgoRush

There'll be a group on that leaderboard soon. So soon. Then we'll start taking people through for a price.

LadyNalcarya

Vigarr wrote: »

Does it normally take hours to complete 1 trial or does your group suck? I was looking forward to these later in game but my life doesn't afford me the luxury of playing uninterrupted for hours at a time.

Veteran version is still unconquered, but normal version's difficulty is just fine and its a lot of fun.

strikeback1247

The answer is so simple: If you don't want to do it, don't do it.

Vigarr

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Veteran version is still unconquered, but normal version's difficulty is just fine and its a lot of fun.

Unconquered sounds intriguing, like something I want to mount and make mine.

kuro-dono

Amazing how granted some tardballs take stuff. its unbeliviable, same as crying why it takes so long to get deto, now all of them got deto, next we hear, they remove deto. UNBELIVIABLE.

Zeni just should not listen any single cry from all these forum warriors

Cinbri

About nMoL - it is so easy that it should not wear the title of 'trial'.

EgoRush wrote: »

There'll be a group on that leaderboard soon. So soon. Then we'll start taking people through for a price.

Do it faster. My gold missing you already.

Latter

nvm

Waseem

Menelaos wrote: »

Waseem wrote: »

i am against 1000 hours losing

Then don't do vMoL. Read a nice lorebook instead, level your ice comet or evil hunter or knock a few heads in Cyrodiil. The game is so diverse, you sure will find other things to do. I hear there are guilds doing swimming around Auridon contests, maybe chime in there?

hey bro, i see you have a lot of cool ideas, can you suggest more? yours would take me 1 hour to do combined, can u suggest more stuff for me to do in another 999 hours instead dying in Maw of Lorkhaj? thanks in advance.

LadyNalcarya

Cinbri wrote: »

About nMoL - it is so easy that it should not wear the title of 'trial'.

EgoRush wrote: »

There'll be a group on that leaderboard soon. So soon. Then we'll start taking people through for a price.

Do it faster. My gold missing you already.

Taking vMA boosting on a whole new level

Kyoma

Cinbri wrote: »

About nMoL - it is so easy that it should not wear the title of 'trial'.

That's why on normal it really isn't a trial, it's a 12-man dungeon instance. ^^

siddique

Waseem wrote: »

Menelaos wrote: »

Waseem wrote: »

i am against 1000 hours losing

Then don't do vMoL. Read a nice lorebook instead, level your ice comet or evil hunter or knock a few heads in Cyrodiil. The game is so diverse, you sure will find other things to do. I hear there are guilds doing swimming around Auridon contests, maybe chime in there?

hey bro, i see you have a lot of cool ideas, can you suggest more? yours would take me 1 hour to do combined, can u suggest more stuff for me to do in another 999 hours instead dying in Maw of Lorkhaj? thanks in advance.

You can swim around Auridon in one hour?

Humatiel

Waseem wrote: »

Menelaos wrote: »

Waseem wrote: »

i am against 1000 hours losing

Then don't do vMoL. Read a nice lorebook instead, level your ice comet or evil hunter or knock a few heads in Cyrodiil. The game is so diverse, you sure will find other things to do. I hear there are guilds doing swimming around Auridon contests, maybe chime in there?

hey bro, i see you have a lot of cool ideas, can you suggest more? yours would take me 1 hour to do combined, can u suggest more stuff for me to do in another 999 hours instead dying in Maw of Lorkhaj? thanks in advance.

So you're both complaining the game is taking too long and that there isn't enough to do, I love to troll but your statements are almost trolling me.

Woeler

The reason a veteran mode and a normal mode were created is for those who really seek a challenge without locking casual players from the content. This trial is (at the moment) for the top PvE players. We had nothing in this game, until now.

You played 50 hours? Cute. Remember Sanctum Ophidia? That took 3 MONTHS of consecutive raid nights before the first guild got it down.

This veteran mode is for dedicated endgame raiders. If you can't handle it or don't want to do difficult content then there is a normal mode that drops the same loot, just not as often.

We endgame PvE raiders have ONE THING at the moment in this game, and still people keep complaining. Like you are entitled to complete everything with low effort.

NoNerf4VMoL.

Menelaos

Waseem wrote: »

hey bro, i see you have a lot of cool ideas, can you suggest more? yours would take me 1 hour to do combined, can u suggest more stuff for me to do in another 999 hours instead dying in Maw of Lorkhaj? thanks in advance.

Sure. If you need a personal entertainment consultant I can give you my PayPal account. Once you have transferred a consultancy fee in hard euros we can talk business.

LadyNalcarya

Woeler wrote: »

We endgame PvE raiders have ONE THING at the moment in this game, and still people keep complaining. Like you are entitled to complete everything with low effort.

NoNerf4VMoL.

This^

Waseem

siddique wrote: »

Waseem wrote: »

Menelaos wrote: »

Waseem wrote: »

i am against 1000 hours losing

Then don't do vMoL. Read a nice lorebook instead, level your ice comet or evil hunter or knock a few heads in Cyrodiil. The game is so diverse, you sure will find other things to do. I hear there are guilds doing swimming around Auridon contests, maybe chime in there?

hey bro, i see you have a lot of cool ideas, can you suggest more? yours would take me 1 hour to do combined, can u suggest more stuff for me to do in another 999 hours instead dying in Maw of Lorkhaj? thanks in advance.

You can swim around Auridon in one hour?

bad sarcasm