Why is leveling up so tediously long??

Bigevilpeter

Its insane, i've been playing since august and my highest character is vr12, i know im going slowly, but thats also helped by how slowly it is to get to end game, i just give up for a while and then come back.

Now to do that again with another character? LOL.

whats the point? after v16 it already takes forever to get max gear so whats the point of making leveling so long as well?

The thing this hurts the most is creating alts, i will never do that again with another character and i dont even know how i will get to vr 16 when i just finished cadwells gold.

SlayerTheDragon

It is painful. But a lot of it should change with Dark Brotherhood DLC next quarter. So perhaps just focus on gaining CP now, and then roll alts once the veteran ranks are removed.

Turelus

This is why VR levels are being removed and Champion Levels will take their place. You will gain smaller power increases more often but essentially nothing else will change, eventually new players will be forced to grind to CP to reach the current gear level and play the end game content.

After Cadwells Gold you have Craglorn (group focused), Orsinium, Thieves Guild, Imperial City.

Skinzz

Maybe if you stuck with one character in the beginning then u would be vet16 by now.

AlnilamE

It isn't.

I'm not sure what you consider end game, but most of it is accessible at v1 (veteran dungeons, PvP - which you can start at level 10 even - MSA. Most trials are doable starting at v10).

What endgame are you missing out on not being v16?

Grabmoore

AlnilamE wrote: »

It isn't.

I'm not sure what you consider end game, but most of it is accessible at v1 (veteran dungeons, PvP - which you can start at level 10 even - MSA. Most trials are doable starting at v10).

What endgame are you missing out on not being v16?

This! I play for enjoyment and to kill time. This game offers both.

Mady

If you're okay with grinding, level 1 to v16 can be done in ~15 hours.

Lyrander

Also...you have been playing since august.
How you dare to complain.

I leveled up before they made level-up-***-nerfs.

Its taking you too long? Im sorry i cant be sorry for you.

crislevin

i have been playing since march 2014, my main is only v11. .... and i have little motivation to get him to v16. VR is going away anyway.

Eshelmen

It's a long road, but let me tell you it is worth the journey.
Get it done.

Grabmoore

crislevin wrote: »

i have been playing since march 2014, my main is only v11. .... and i have little motivation to get him to v16. VR is going away anyway.

They said you will get a CP bonus gift scaling from your highest Vet char though. You might want to have one V16 until summer.

ChuckyPayne

Yes very big base content 3 * 5 + 1 zone with 1000+ quests. This game worth the money. Pve solo content is amazing.
Nice leisurely in 2 years I finished with 4 character all pve solo content. Now I do the thief guild after it maybe start the 5th ^ ^.

crislevin

Grabmoore wrote: »

crislevin wrote: »

i have been playing since march 2014, my main is only v11. .... and i have little motivation to get him to v16. VR is going away anyway.

They said you will get a CP bonus gift scaling from your highest Vet char though. You might want to have one V16 until summer.

any links? I might do that. lol

Gothlander

I been playing for about half a year and am only at VR11. I'm trying to reach vr16 before the next dlc. I hear that if you have a vr16 toon, you will get an extra 40cp when dark brotherhood launches, Is this true?

NeillMcAttack

You can get a VR level in two hours by just completing the Cyrodiil dailies with an exp pot or two.

Tarrin

It is not.

viperroos

I hope you get CP bonus gift from having a VR16 Char

Gothlander

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

You can get a VR level in two hours by just completing the Cyrodiil dailies with an exp pot or two.

The pve dailies or pvp ones?

me_ming

AlnilamE wrote: »

It isn't.

I'm not sure what you consider end game, but most of it is accessible at v1 (veteran dungeons, PvP - which you can start at level 10 even - MSA. Most trials are doable starting at v10).

What endgame are you missing out on not being v16?

I know some people who do trials at v2. Trials you just need a good group. Yes, stats still matter but it is rather doable.

And it's really not as painful leveling vet levels nowadays, you should have had a vet rank prior to IC, when you need 1M to level a rank. More so when Dark Brotherhood when they will remove vet ranks.

Grabmoore

crislevin wrote: »

any links? I might do that. lol

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/237234/once-they-remove-vet-ranks-whats-going-to-happen-with-vr16-gear

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2457704/#Comment_2457704

"ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

[*] The intention is that once you hit 50, champion points take over. Veteran Ranks are completely removed.
[*] When Veteran Ranks are removed, we will convert any Veteran Ranks on your highest character into CP.
[*] To get a rough idea of balance - think of 10CP = 1 VR. (so 160 CP will roughly = VR16)
[/list]

Additional Details:

• We’re planning on giving 2.5 CP for every VR level you’ve earned on your highest level character. (40 for a VR16 character)
• When the conversion happens, any player with CP less than their old veteran rank * 10 will instead be given enough CP such that their total is VR * 10. For example: A player is VR14 with 75 CP, they will be given 65 CP (140-75) instead of 40, so that they can still equip any gear they may have.
• We will make sure the 16 attribute picks you got from VR1 to VR16 will carry over. (current plan is an achievement that goes up in 10 CP increments until 160)

Here you go.

Bigevilpeter

For mmo, endgame is the most important thing and when I say endgame I mean when i get a good item, I know I won't just throw it away as soon as i get a level. It completely removes the excitement of getting a good item.

I've played other mmo and progress in the one is by far the slowest of the ones I played.

The fastest was swtor, in 2 months I got 6 characters to final level+ the story is much more interesting with cut scenes and your character has a voice over.

Gameplay and graphics in ESO are the best imo, but the tedious grind for everything just kills it. At least leveling should be easier everything else takes too long already!!

Xendyn

You think it's tedious now? Should have tried leveling alts in the first year lol.
Get one to V16 and work on getting the others to 50 before DB and you'll be set.

BomblePants

Lyrander.... why bother posting an answer, seriously!

lardvader

I did a bit of everything with my main and made it to V16 in about a month. I did some grinding for FG lvl 10 at some point then I grinded in the public dungeons in Orsinium from V11 to V16.

I got 5 other alts I will be playing but won't grind them to V16. I'll focus on getting them to lvl 50 and then just play for CP. My alts will all be doing writs to help pay for horse training and moonsuger

Arobain

oh god please do not complain about a non issue, i really do not what them to make it any easier, what do you MEAN when you say its too long, just because you are taking your time, wtf, just because you are casually leveling up, probs playing 2 hours a week, its too long, nah fam, its just right, you are just having a bad day and wanted to vent, please take this post down before they think you are serious

-thanks

crislevin

Grabmoore wrote: »

crislevin wrote: »

any links? I might do that. lol

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/237234/once-they-remove-vet-ranks-whats-going-to-happen-with-vr16-gear

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2457704/#Comment_2457704

"ZOS_RichLambert wrote: »

[*] The intention is that once you hit 50, champion points take over. Veteran Ranks are completely removed.
[*] When Veteran Ranks are removed, we will convert any Veteran Ranks on your highest character into CP.
[*] To get a rough idea of balance - think of 10CP = 1 VR. (so 160 CP will roughly = VR16)
[/list]

Additional Details:

• We’re planning on giving 2.5 CP for every VR level you’ve earned on your highest level character. (40 for a VR16 character)
• When the conversion happens, any player with CP less than their old veteran rank * 10 will instead be given enough CP such that their total is VR * 10. For example: A player is VR14 with 75 CP, they will be given 65 CP (140-75) instead of 40, so that they can still equip any gear they may have.
• We will make sure the 16 attribute picks you got from VR1 to VR16 will carry over. (current plan is an achievement that goes up in 10 CP increments until 160)

Here you go.

Thanks for the link!

That is a very unclear statement. I know ZOS isn't exactly known for being accurate.

if 40 cp is "bonus", why would they use this number in that example of a player with v14 and 75 CP? The whole thing reads weird.

I guess the question is, are they giving v16s a bonus such that they would have 200 cp, while everybody else will just have vr*10?

btw, if 160 is not a hard cap for non-v16 player, I am unsure if its harder to grind to v16 from v11 now, or to grind 90 extra cp later on....

Ionan

Why do people care so much about being max level?

I am curious. I get it, that you'd want one max for the end game stuff, but for many of us the game is the game, and the leveling process is the progression in it.

phairdon

The other MMO I play, consists of 80 levels. This game only has 65 or thereabout. I'd like to see more veteran levels added. Of course, no more as the game is being dumbed down to level 50.

nine9six

ESO is one of the fastest-to-level-in MMOs out there, TBH.

Egonieser

Levling my 5th character to vr16-dom, when i don't pvp.

Max i get to play in a day is 2 hours, tops, yet i have 4 VR16's.

It's not how long you play, it's what you do when you play that matters. If all you do is twiddle your thumbs and admire sunsets - then obviously you'll be only VR12 after god knows how long. If you actually look at the screen and go "oooh look, a quest there - let's go and do it" then you might start earning some XP.

k9mouse

I been here since beta and I have 8 VR16s. I did not get it, leveling chars are not that bad to do. If people think leveling bad now, back in Early Access, it will take 12 million for ONE LEVEL (VR10 was max level back then). Now, it is easy, only 16 million XP to get all the sixteen VR levels. If one wants the reward, one should put in the time needed to get it, instead of wanting everything handed to you.