Leki's Focus. A couple question's.

GreenSoup2HoT · March 2016

Leki’s Focus: Increased the amount of damage reduction provided by this item set to 25% from 20%. We also fixed an issue where this item set was not reducing the damage taken from the Caltrop's ability.

Above we have one of the new set's in the Thieve's Guild DLC. Now i have a couple question's to ask everybody here.

1: Does this set reduce the healing from "Resolving Vigor". - I say this because this particular morph of vigor heal's yourself more then your friendly allies. Would the stronger self heal portion be considered an AoE and be reduced by this set? Or only the heal given to allies?

2: Does this set need improvement's? For instance if you are reducing your own AoE damage/healing ability's, should you be getting a single target boost? Does this set give you enough incentive to use it over other set's?

3: Will you use this set? I may think about using this set because the meta seem's to be turning to Magicka Detonation and AoE bombing. This set look's like it was placed in here to be the counter to AoE bomb's but i feel it's not powerful enough considering the drawback's.

Any other thought's would be great.

Jaronking · March 2016

Personally am planning on using the two piece for my DW NB rather jewelry or DW swords or Maces which every I get first would do good in my book.

Personally I agree with you they need raise the set reduction to AOE damage up to at least 35-40% to make me want to use the set other than that I don't see many people using it.

R0M2K · March 2016

Crap

Mumyo · March 2016

Does anyone know if this affects jabs?

Jaronking · March 2016

Mumyo wrote: »

Does anyone know if this affects jabs?

It should technically Jabs are a AOE sense its a cone so this set should affect it.

Mumyo · March 2016

Jaronking wrote: »

Mumyo wrote: »

Does anyone know if this affects jabs?

It should technically Jabs are a AOE sense its a cone so this set should affect it.

I believe you but this is Zenimax, did anyone test that?

Iggybot · March 2016

I just got 5 pieces to mess around with. It seems to make all damage you do reduce by 25% not just aoe (at the very least all tooltip go down 25%).

As far as survivability goes, by stam blade standards, it makes you nearly invulnerable with blade cloak. You can usually survive proxy bomb attacks, and and tend to be the last one alive in such a scenario.

I'm gonna do more testing tonight, but I'm believe it's just reducing all damage done and taken by 25%.

GreenSoup2HoT · March 2016

Iggybot wrote: »

I just got 5 pieces to mess around with. It seems to make all damage you do reduce by 25% not just aoe (at the very least all tooltip go down 25%).

As far as survivability goes, by stam blade standards, it makes you nearly invulnerable with blade cloak. You can usually survive proxy bomb attacks, and and tend to be the last one alive in such a scenario.

I'm gonna do more testing tonight, but I'm believe it's just reducing all damage done and taken by 25%.

Appreciate the help

I have one thing i'd like you to test. Is the heal from resolving vigor reduced by this set? Since the self heal and AoE heal for allies is separate.

That seem's pretty broken if what your saying is true though.

idk · March 2016

1 probably as I is an aoe

2 no changes needed as he benefit is taking less damage from players aoe.

3. Situationally the 5 piece would be useful. The 2 & 3 piece we great.

nilldax · March 2016

1. All of your AoE skills
2. More like fix if wasnt this done (on PTS was reducing all of your skills by 25%)
3. Nope

Reduces in theory siege damage + stacks with Blade Cloak

Iggybot · March 2016

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Iggybot wrote: »

I just got 5 pieces to mess around with. It seems to make all damage you do reduce by 25% not just aoe (at the very least all tooltip go down 25%).

As far as survivability goes, by stam blade standards, it makes you nearly invulnerable with blade cloak. You can usually survive proxy bomb attacks, and and tend to be the last one alive in such a scenario.

I'm gonna do more testing tonight, but I'm believe it's just reducing all damage done and taken by 25%.

Appreciate the help

I have one thing i'd like you to test. Is the heal from resolving vigor reduced by this set? Since the self heal and AoE heal for allies is separate.

That seem's pretty broken if what your saying is true though.

Yes. Resolving vigour went from 2.3k ticks to 1.8k ticks.

GreenSoup2HoT · March 2016

Iggybot wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Iggybot wrote: »

I just got 5 pieces to mess around with. It seems to make all damage you do reduce by 25% not just aoe (at the very least all tooltip go down 25%).

As far as survivability goes, by stam blade standards, it makes you nearly invulnerable with blade cloak. You can usually survive proxy bomb attacks, and and tend to be the last one alive in such a scenario.

I'm gonna do more testing tonight, but I'm believe it's just reducing all damage done and taken by 25%.

Appreciate the help

I have one thing i'd like you to test. Is the heal from resolving vigor reduced by this set? Since the self heal and AoE heal for allies is separate.

That seem's pretty broken if what your saying is true though.

Yes. Resolving vigour went from 2.3k ticks to 1.8k ticks.

you cant really test it if it's broken though. if everything is being reduced by 25% you cant test anything yet.

Elder_III · March 2016

If it really reduces all damage by 25% I might need to get it for tanking... combined with Blade Cloak and Refreshing Darkness you would be even more unkillable then it is now with some NB Tank builds.

Inarre · March 2016

Someone i talked to made a good point that this could be an interesting tank set. Especially for the ridiculous hard hitting aoes in the trials.

GreenSoup2HoT · March 2016

Elder_III wrote: »

If it really reduces all damage by 25% I might need to get it for tanking... combined with Blade Cloak and Refreshing Darkness you would be even more unkillable then it is now with some NB Tank builds.

Its not reducing all incoming. It's reducing all out going.

danno8 · March 2016

Iggybot wrote: »

I just got 5 pieces to mess around with. It seems to make all damage you do reduce by 25% not just aoe (at the very least all tooltip go down 25%).

As far as survivability goes, by stam blade standards, it makes you nearly invulnerable with blade cloak. You can usually survive proxy bomb attacks, and and tend to be the last one alive in such a scenario.

I'm gonna do more testing tonight, but I'm believe it's just reducing all damage done and taken by 25%.

Never trust tooltips.

Iggybot · March 2016

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Iggybot wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Iggybot wrote: »

I just got 5 pieces to mess around with. It seems to make all damage you do reduce by 25% not just aoe (at the very least all tooltip go down 25%).

As far as survivability goes, by stam blade standards, it makes you nearly invulnerable with blade cloak. You can usually survive proxy bomb attacks, and and tend to be the last one alive in such a scenario.

I'm gonna do more testing tonight, but I'm believe it's just reducing all damage done and taken by 25%.

Appreciate the help

I have one thing i'd like you to test. Is the heal from resolving vigor reduced by this set? Since the self heal and AoE heal for allies is separate.

That seem's pretty broken if what your saying is true though.

Yes. Resolving vigour went from 2.3k ticks to 1.8k ticks.

you cant really test it if it's broken though. if everything is being reduced by 25% you cant test anything yet.

True. It's possible if it's fixed and intended to only apply to AoE, the single target self heal may work at full strength.

olsborg · March 2016

I dont know if this set does infact reduce the healing you take from your own vigor, some on my fl sais so, but I havent confirmed or unconfirmed this myself.

This set would need improvements to be worth a 5th slot. Say it also boosted your own weapon dmg by X amount or gave you X amount of stamina everytime you were hit by aoe (cooldown ofcourse)

Confirmed that it does reduce dmg take from the following skills while on pts: Meteor, Soul tether, Leap, Sap, Dawnbreaker, Whirlwind, WoE, Proxdet, Mines and a few others I cant remember atm.

Iggybot · March 2016

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Elder_III wrote: »

If it really reduces all damage by 25% I might need to get it for tanking... combined with Blade Cloak and Refreshing Darkness you would be even more unkillable then it is now with some NB Tank builds.

Its not reducing all incoming. It's reducing all out going.

I believe it's reducing all incoming as well, though it's difficult to confirm with just my anecdotal experience. Nothing has hit me for more than 4.5k on the death recap outside of proxy/vicious death yet.

I'll play around a bit more with it.

GreenSoup2HoT · March 2016

Iggybot wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Iggybot wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Iggybot wrote: »

I just got 5 pieces to mess around with. It seems to make all damage you do reduce by 25% not just aoe (at the very least all tooltip go down 25%).

As far as survivability goes, by stam blade standards, it makes you nearly invulnerable with blade cloak. You can usually survive proxy bomb attacks, and and tend to be the last one alive in such a scenario.

I'm gonna do more testing tonight, but I'm believe it's just reducing all damage done and taken by 25%.

Appreciate the help

I have one thing i'd like you to test. Is the heal from resolving vigor reduced by this set? Since the self heal and AoE heal for allies is separate.

That seem's pretty broken if what your saying is true though.

Yes. Resolving vigour went from 2.3k ticks to 1.8k ticks.

you cant really test it if it's broken though. if everything is being reduced by 25% you cant test anything yet.

True. It's possible if it's fixed and intended to only apply to AoE, the single target self heal may work at full strength.

That's pretty much why i want to figure this out.

As a stamina nightblade player, Resolving Vigor is a mandatory heal for me. So if Leki's reduces the self heal portion, i might as well forget about trying to acquire it.