help with my templar build

Momomani

|I have imperial templar tank

I have mad a build and i was wondering what should i change and why?

http://www.esohead.com/calculator/skills#1.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

Acsvf

I would take off bow as by the looks of it you're magicka based.

Xvorg

Momomani wrote: »

|I have imperial templar tank

I have mad a build and i was wondering what should i change and why?

http://www.esohead.com/calculator/skills#1.moaXygMV0raGmiG8fXGo8fXGH8fXhs8bznQ8bzno8jKEG8injt8innv8rZp08frrK8ffkr8rFyV8z27zmzcwmk8N7XLDi6LDu6LDG6MbMUf6MbMXv6MbMXO6MbMX28L7XcdoQr6MdoQC6MdoQF6MdoQJ6MdoQK8p7XMdBvT6MdBvj6MdBEI6MdBEp6cdBET8T7XMrqAi6MrqAI6MrqAD6MrqAZ6crqLw8j7XLSZ6LUx6MrJO16MrJPr6MrJPh6MrJPu8n7XLWQ6LWU6MfwgO6MfwgU6Mfwg26Mfwe08y7XLR3a6NR3r6rR3f6MfQE16MfQE36MfQlr6MfQlu6MfQlI8g7XrsXy6LsXx6MipLW6MipL46MippV6Mippo6Mippq8O7szAZqS6MA3FN6MA3FA6MA3FL6MA4Cb8P7azLp4d6cLncp6cLncn6zLncy6zLyjz8Y7XNfJN837kMy4Wg6My41N8zM7pcgcmM6cgcmm6zgcoS6cgkvQ8zf7czNbo6MDVRE6MDVRC6MDVRH8zu7zzHfYE6zHfZd8zG7zzHQ3F8zI7zzJIoX6zJIkL8zN7ccJZcY6cJZrM6cJZug8zA7zzKpUN8zL7czK4EX6cK4PZ6cK4YW

Change the bow for a staff

AfkNinja

Using magic morphs but you have more points in Stamina? Does not compute. Are you trying to hybridize your Templar?

Momomani

Acsvf wrote: »

I would take off bow as by the looks of it you're magicka based.

how am I magic based when I only use two magic based abilities on both bars ??

sorry for asking this is how ever my first mmo game

Momomani

AfkNinja wrote: »

Using magic morphs but you have more points in Stamina? Does not compute. Are you trying to hybridize your Templar?

meaning what ?

would like to know where went wrong so i can make it better
thanks

TheM0rganism

Momomani wrote: »

AfkNinja wrote: »

Using magic morphs but you have more points in Stamina? Does not compute. Are you trying to hybridize your Templar?

meaning what ?

would like to know where went wrong so i can make it better
thanks

Bow, Dual Weild, 2-Hand, and S&B all cost stamina. Destro and Resto staves use Magika.

We are confused because you spec'd the Magika morphs for some of your Class abilities (like Puncturing Sweep), but alsouse Bow skills. Using S&B skills is fine for a magika build b/c...well that simply the only way. However, the bow skills are utterly useless if you are focusing on Magika.

In ESO, hybrid build are niche, and mostly useless.

Let's back up...do you want to be Magic or Stamina focused?

Enraged_Tiki_Torch

what do you plan on doing with this build? PvE Solo, Group, Trials? PvP Solo, Group? That will help people understand your concept cause right now it is kinda all over the place.

Momomani

TheM0rganism wrote: »

Momomani wrote: »

AfkNinja wrote: »

Using magic morphs but you have more points in Stamina? Does not compute. Are you trying to hybridize your Templar?

meaning what ?

would like to know where went wrong so i can make it better
thanks

Bow, Dual Weild, 2-Hand, and S&B all cost stamina. Destro and Resto staves use Magika.

We are confused because you spec'd the Magika morphs for some of your Class abilities (like Puncturing Sweep), but alsouse Bow skills. Using S&B skills is fine for a magika build b/c...well that simply the only way. However, the bow skills are utterly useless if you are focusing on Magika.

In ESO, hybrid build are niche, and mostly useless.

Let's back up...do you want to be Magic or Stamina focused?

The plan is to be a tank so I guess stamina. so far haven't had that much of problem but I guess that is because haven't done much veteran content yet.
but how good is magic based tanks ?

Momomani

Enraged_Tiki_Torch wrote: »

what do you plan on doing with this build? PvE Solo, Group, Trials? PvP Solo, Group? That will help people understand your concept cause right now it is kinda all over the place.

well that is the problem I do most of pve and pvp solo because dont know anyone who plays this game and in my friends zone ppl play mostly fps games.

but I have tried some of the group content and that is why I went with tank.

so what should I change for what I have understood is magic is for dps mostly

Enraged_Tiki_Torch

Since you went Imperial and you seem like you want to use the bow, I would go Stamina instead of Magicka. So 5 medium, and 2 heavy until you get the Undaunted Mettle passive then go 1 light, and 1 heavy instead of 2 heavy.

Being a Vamp and wanting to Tank is gonna be rough especially in PvP as there is a ton of fire damage, and people running with Vamp hate. In PvP, I would invest in improving your survivability. The best thing about Vamp is the Undeath passive. Bats is nice but it makes you a target and isn't always up.

Puncturing Sweeps < Biting Jabs. You have 2 single target abilities on your S&B bar. You only need one. Decide whether you like Biting Jabs or Puncture, no reason to have both. Slot in Reverberating Bash or Accelerating Drain for PvP as that is your CC as your using Shielded Assault and not Invasion. Bash has the all important Heal Debuff while Drain gives you mobility. For PvE tanking, slot Heroic Slash.

In you go with Drain, drop bats from this bar and put in Flawless Dawnbreaker for the 8% extra melee damage for it being slotted. You can put bats on the other bar so you don't lose the recovery since a Vamp ability has to be slotted.

Blazing Spear's Stamina Recovery doesn't work for you. It is also Magicka so it's a DPS loss. Use Binding Javelin is you go with Puncture over Jabs so you get the Aedric Spear passives. ***FORGET THIS ORIGINALLY***

As a PvE tank, I would double bar S&B. Your never gonna need a bow as a Tank. As a DPS, it will be nice if you get the Maelstrom one. Then you will want Scorched Earth. For PvP, Draining Shot is ok but Bombard is better.

Skills you want: Purifying Ritual (every Templar should have this slotted), Resolving Vigor (this will be your heal), and Harness Magicka (Sorcerers are a big deal in PvP and in some PvE zones this is a much needed DS). If you need magicka to cover the cost, you may need to make adjustments to your build (Gear, CP). Rune Focus is also nice, maybe find some way to slot that.

Momomani

Enraged_Tiki_Torch wrote: »

Since you went Imperial and you seem like you want to use the bow, I would go Stamina instead of Magicka. So 5 medium, and 2 heavy until you get the Undaunted Mettle passive then go 1 light, and 1 heavy instead of 2 heavy.

Being a Vamp and wanting to Tank is gonna be rough especially in PvP as there is a ton of fire damage, and people running with Vamp hate. In PvP, I would invest in improving your survivability. The best thing about Vamp is the Undeath passive. Bats is nice but it makes you a target and isn't always up.

Puncturing Sweeps < Biting Jabs. You have 2 single target abilities on your S&B bar. You only need one. Decide whether you like Biting Jabs or Puncture, no reason to have both. Slot in Reverberating Bash or Accelerating Drain for PvP as that is your CC as your using Shielded Assault and not Invasion. Bash has the all important Heal Debuff while Drain gives you mobility. For PvE tanking, slot Heroic Slash.

In you go with Drain, drop bats from this bar and put in Flawless Dawnbreaker for the 8% extra melee damage for it being slotted. You can put bats on the other bar so you don't lose the recovery since a Vamp ability has to be slotted.

Blazing Spear's Stamina Recovery doesn't work for you. It is also Magicka so it's a DPS loss.

As a PvE tank, I would double bar S&B. Your never gonna need a bow as a Tank. As a DPS, it will be nice if you get the Maelstrom one. Then you will want Scorched Earth. For PvP, Draining Shot is ok but Bombard is better.

Skills you want: Purifying Ritual (every Templar should have this slotted), Resolving Vigor (this will be your heal), and Harness Magicka (Sorcerers are a big deal in PvP and in some PvE zones this is a much needed DS). If you need magicka to cover the cost, you may need to make adjustments to your build (Gear, CP). Rune Focus is also nice, maybe find some way to slot that.

thanks man gave littel bit to think about?
but if I go for one more S&B what ability should I pick

Momomani

Momomani wrote: »

Enraged_Tiki_Torch wrote: »

Since you went Imperial and you seem like you want to use the bow, I would go Stamina instead of Magicka. So 5 medium, and 2 heavy until you get the Undaunted Mettle passive then go 1 light, and 1 heavy instead of 2 heavy.


and my attribute points how should I set them everything on stamina or what ??

Enraged_Tiki_Torch

This is how I would run my bars as a suggestion:

Biting Jabs (Puncture for PvE tank[taunt] until you have Inner Beast)
Shielded Assault (Heroic Slash cause of Ultimate)
Defensive Stance
Accelerating Drain (Repentance)
Reverberating Bash

Ultimate: Flawless Dawnbreaker

Binding Javelin (Rune Focus S&B tanking)
Bombard (Shuffle for S&B tanking)
Purifying Ritual
Harness Magicka
Resolving Vigor

Ultimate: Bats

But try things out and see what you like... GL

Momomani

Enraged_Tiki_Torch wrote: »

This is how I would run my bars as a suggestion:

Biting Jabs
Shielded Assault
Defensive Stance
Accelerating Drain
Reverberating Bash

Ultimate: Flawless Dawnbreaker

Binding Javelin (Rune Focus S&B tanking)
Bombard (Shuffle for S&B tanking)
Purifying Ritual
Harness Magicka
Resolving Vigor

Ultimate: Bats

But try things out and see what you like... GL

thanks m8 for all the tips

do you have anymore tips for dk magic dps I know kind of to much to ask

Momomani

Momomani wrote: »

Momomani wrote: »

Enraged_Tiki_Torch wrote: »

Since you went Imperial and you seem like you want to use the bow, I would go Stamina instead of Magicka. So 5 medium, and 2 heavy until you get the Undaunted Mettle passive then go 1 light, and 1 heavy instead of 2 heavy.


and my attribute points how should I set them everything on stamina or what ??

Momomani wrote: »

Enraged_Tiki_Torch wrote: »

This is how I would run my bars as a suggestion:

Biting Jabs
Shielded Assault
Defensive Stance
Accelerating Drain
Reverberating Bash

Ultimate: Flawless Dawnbreaker

Binding Javelin (Rune Focus S&B tanking)
Bombard (Shuffle for S&B tanking)
Purifying Ritual
Harness Magicka
Resolving Vigor

Ultimate: Bats

But try things out and see what you like... GL

thanks m8 for all the tips

do you have anymore tips for dk magic dps I know kind of to much to ask

and my attribute points how should I set them everything on stamina or what ?? for the templar that is

Enraged_Tiki_Torch

Yes Stamina, although if you want to tank I would go for the suggested Health total for what content your doing. Some dungeons require more health than others and Trials you definitely need a good bit. Suggest ALL Stamina and use gear to switch to more health if you can.

Enraged_Tiki_Torch

Don't know as much about DKs, there are many other people who know more about them than me. Played Temp since release.

Enraged_Tiki_Torch

Don't be afraid to make changes, it is all about playstyle and what fits you. Concepts are the same but I think you will like the Bombard + Bats combo. Alot of people just don't know how to react. You'll get some lolz

ryanborror

I'd recommend doing a Templar magic tank build. You could put most attributes in to magic and some in health and make up anything missing with gear and enchants. If you go heavily in magic you'll do more damage and heal for more. If you put more in health you can do some cool tank things with blazing shield and bone shield and be more survivable. For damage use puncturing sweeps, dark flare, blazing spear. Level resto and destro if you want. Templar class skills are good for magic builds on their own. Level one hand and shield. You could do this:
1pierce armor/inner fire, puncturing sweeps, absorb magic, repentance, Purifying light, bat swarm/empowering sweep
2 channeled focus, blazing shield/spear, harness magicka, radiant oppression, breath of life, solar prison

Momomani

ryanborror wrote: »

I'd recommend doing a Templar magic tank build. You could put most attributes in to magic and some in health and make up anything missing with gear and enchants. If you go heavily in magic you'll do more damage and heal for more. If you put more in health you can do some cool tank things with blazing shield and bone shield and be more survivable. For damage use puncturing sweeps, dark flare, blazing spear. Level resto and destro if you want. Templar class skills are good for magic builds on their own. Level one hand and shield. You could do this:
1pierce armor/inner fire, puncturing sweeps, absorb magic, repentance, Purifying light, bat swarm/empowering sweep
2 channeled focus, blazing shield/spear, harness magicka, radiant oppression, breath of life, solar prison

what about gear should stick with the 5 medium or change it up

Momomani

The thing I still dont get is how can you guys see if my build is magic or stamina based. I wont to understand were i exactly went wrong. If i understood it all correct I used to many magic based skills is that right?

Acsvf

Momomani wrote: »

The thing I still dont get is how can you guys see if my build is magic or stamina based. I wont to understand were i exactly went wrong. If i understood it all correct I used to many magic based skills is that right?

Radiant oppression, breath of life, and puncturing sweeps makes you out to be a magicka character, as they all scale.
I would suggest you to just go with a magicka tank build. Templar doesn't have much in the way of useful abilities for a stamina tank.

Momomani

Acsvf wrote: »

Momomani wrote: »

The thing I still dont get is how can you guys see if my build is magic or stamina based. I wont to understand were i exactly went wrong. If i understood it all correct I used to many magic based skills is that right?

Radiant oppression, breath of life, and puncturing sweeps makes you out to be a magicka character, as they all scale.
I would suggest you to just go with a magicka tank build. Templar doesn't have much in the way of useful abilities for a stamina tank.

let say go for the magic build what armor type should I use right know I use 5 medium and 2 light ?

Enraged_Tiki_Torch

Momomani wrote: »

The thing I still dont get is how can you guys see if my build is magic or stamina based. I wont to understand were i exactly went wrong. If i understood it all correct I used to many magic based skills is that right?

The thing that determines whether your magicka or stamina based is what skills you are using. This is probably the best way to show this:

Biting Jabs [STAMINA MELEE DPS ABILITY]
Shielded Assault [STAMINA GAP CLOSER]
Defensive Stance [STAMINA BUFF AND REFLECT SINGLE TARGET SPELLS AGAINST YOU]
Accelerating Drain [MAGICKA BUFF FOR MOBILITY]
Reverberating Bash[STAMINA MELEE RANGE CC AND HEALING DEBUFF]

Binding Javelin [STAMINA SINGLE TARGET RANGED]
Bombard [STAMINA MASS CC]
Purifying Ritual [MAGICKA ABILITY TO REMOVE DEBUFFS]
Harness Magicka [ANTI-MAGICKA DAMAGE SHIELD]
Resolving Vigor [STAMINA BURST HEAL]

So all the abilities that you'll use for DPS or to Heal yourself are stamina based. The only magicka based skills here are Utility so you don't need an investment in Magicka as a Stamina class to use them. Drain is a cheap ability for mobility with some extra icing on top but you only need to use every 20 seconds for Major Expedition. Ritual is a cheap magicka ability that provides you an important cleanse. Harness Magicka gives you protection against spell burst against you and returns a good portion of the magicka you used to cast it back to you.

If you wanted to go Magicka instead of Stamina, you would switch Biting Jabs for it's magicka counterpart: Puncturing Sweeps. Shielded Assault for Toppling Charge and so on.

This allows you to spec all your efforts into building up your Stamina to get the most of your abilities. Light Armor for Magicka, Medium Armor for Stamina. So if you wanted to be Magicka you would run 5 light instead of 5 medium armor. The amount of damage and healing a ability does is based off of which attribute is used to cast it.

Acsvf

Momomani wrote: »

Acsvf wrote: »

Momomani wrote: »

The thing I still dont get is how can you guys see if my build is magic or stamina based. I wont to understand were i exactly went wrong. If i understood it all correct I used to many magic based skills is that right?

Radiant oppression, breath of life, and puncturing sweeps makes you out to be a magicka character, as they all scale.
I would suggest you to just go with a magicka tank build. Templar doesn't have much in the way of useful abilities for a stamina tank.

let say go for the magic build what armor type should I use right know I use 5 medium and 2 light ?

7 Light, or 5 light, 1 medium, and 1 heavy.

ryanborror

Momomani wrote: »

ryanborror wrote: »

I'd recommend doing a Templar magic tank build. You could put most attributes in to magic and some in health and make up anything missing with gear and enchants. If you go heavily in magic you'll do more damage and heal for more. If you put more in health you can do some cool tank things with blazing shield and bone shield and be more survivable. For damage use puncturing sweeps, dark flare, blazing spear. Level resto and destro if you want. Templar class skills are good for magic builds on their own. Level one hand and shield. You could do this:
1pierce armor/inner fire, puncturing sweeps, absorb magic, repentance, Purifying light, bat swarm/empowering sweep
2 channeled focus, blazing shield/spear, harness magicka, radiant oppression, breath of life, solar prison

what about gear should stick with the 5 medium or change it up

Magicka dps/solo mostly light. Tanking in group mostly heavy

Momomani

what do you guys think about vamp templars mybe forgot to say that also im playing vamp templar tank
is vamp bad as many says here on the forum?
and if im vamp templar is better to go magic or stamina?