Templars in comparison to the other 6 classes

templesus · February 2016

Healing: Good, the best, an entire tree dedicated for it, however it's getting nerfed to the point where a NB or Sorc can surpass us by their recovery passives alone
Tanking: lol.... haven't seen a temp tank in years
Dpsing: the bottom 1% consists of us and stam sorcs, pvp wise toppling charge is still bugged now nerfed, sweeps still doesn't do cap to shield stackers, and dark flare is easily dodgeable. Our ultimates arentry even wipe my a** worthy and our passives actually make me cry. We have useless abilities (backlash, healing ritual) and 1 tangible cc in javelin.
Final comparison: not even worth comparing.

Wollust · February 2016

I call bs on most of your statements.

sekou_trayvond · February 2016

Yeah, my Templar tank politely disagrees with your assertion.

PhatGrimReaper · February 2016

Don't underestimate how effective Magicka Templar DPS will be in PVE in the coming patch.... or even right now for that matter. Okay, we aren't what we were in 1.6, but the changes coming are going to mean Magplar DPS is far more common for PVE than it has been in a long time.
In terms of heals, Templars remain the #1 resource healer by a long shot and will therefore be most groups first choice for trial healing.
As far as tanking goes, I have never tanked as a templar except Heal-Tanking vet pledges, which consists of taunt+breath, so I won't comment on that.

dem0n1k · February 2016

I have seen some really tough templar tanks in PVP lately. Stacking Absorb Magic, Harness Magicka & Radiant Ward & using Empowering Sweep to kill anyone that gets close.

I am not saying that the Templar class is the best tank or anything but there are players out there rockin' it!

bikerangelo · February 2016

I understand your pain but I disagree a lot with most of your claims.

Healing: Templars are still good, getting nerfed is the norm but BoL is still powerful and Major Mending is a nice change.
Tanking: harder than the other classes but not impossible, if Templars could eat their own shards for stamina return that'd solve lots of problems in itself.
DPS: magicka templars will be some of the better dps next patch, and stamplars will be fine.

Bring it in, guys, it's gonna be alright.

EZgoin76 · February 2016

Hmm Dragonknight, Templar, Sorcerer and Nightblade. Pretty sure that's four classes. What are the other two?

PhatGrimReaper · February 2016

EZgoin76 wrote: »

Hmm Dragonknight, Templar, Sorcerer and Nightblade. Pretty sure that's four classes. What are the other two?

Stam anything except NB would be one I guess.... they use pretty much the same skills

Greiver · February 2016

Wollust wrote: »

I call bs on most of your statements.

Agreed

templesus · February 2016

EZgoin76 wrote: »

Hmm Dragonknight, Templar, Sorcerer and Nightblade. Pretty sure that's four classes. What are the other two?

Stam / magicka of each is counted as 1

EZgoin76 · February 2016

PhatGrimReaper wrote: »

EZgoin76 wrote: »

Hmm Dragonknight, Templar, Sorcerer and Nightblade. Pretty sure that's four classes. What are the other two?

Stam anything except NB would be one I guess.... they use pretty much the same skills

Sorry, I was trying to be a little sarcastic to the OP. There are only four classes unless you make the distinction between magicka and stamina for each class.

PhatGrimReaper · February 2016

EZgoin76 wrote: »

PhatGrimReaper wrote: »

EZgoin76 wrote: »

Hmm Dragonknight, Templar, Sorcerer and Nightblade. Pretty sure that's four classes. What are the other two?

Stam anything except NB would be one I guess.... they use pretty much the same skills

Sorry, I was trying to be a little sarcastic to the OP. There are only four classes unless you make the distinction between magicka and stamina for each class.

Don't worry, I have been known to be a little sarcastic from time to time....

SanSan · February 2016

Is dual wield templar a thing?

PhatGrimReaper · February 2016

SanSan wrote: »

Is dual wield templar a thing?

Unsure if trolling....... will assume not for the time being.... lol

Yes, for both Magicka & Stam

EZgoin76 · February 2016

Edit: Deleted my own ignorance.

SanSan · February 2016

PhatGrimReaper wrote: »

SanSan wrote: »

Is dual wield templar a thing?

Unsure if trolling....... will assume not for the time being.... lol

Yes, for both Magicka & Stam

I wasn't trolling lol. I love dual wield and templar skills. I googled templar dual wield and haven't found much about them. I don't want to make a weak class

PhatGrimReaper · February 2016

SanSan wrote: »

PhatGrimReaper wrote: »

SanSan wrote: »

Is dual wield templar a thing?

Unsure if trolling....... will assume not for the time being.... lol

Yes, for both Magicka & Stam

I wasn't trolling lol. I love dual wield and templar skills. I googled templar dual wield and haven't found much about them. I don't want to make a weak class

Magicka or Stam?

SanSan · February 2016

PhatGrimReaper wrote: »

SanSan wrote: »

PhatGrimReaper wrote: »

SanSan wrote: »

Is dual wield templar a thing?

Unsure if trolling....... will assume not for the time being.... lol

Yes, for both Magicka & Stam

I wasn't trolling lol. I love dual wield and templar skills. I googled templar dual wield and haven't found much about them. I don't want to make a weak class

Magicka or Stam?

Stam.

PhatGrimReaper · February 2016

@Slayyer-AUS has a Stamplar that uses DW and he has some of the highest AoE DPS I have seen.

LBxFinalDeath · February 2016

Magicka Templar can rek people tbh...its just that breath of life spamming is just so much more easy mode.

Smash BoL to win 24/7 is the key to high army ranks and zerg victories, all dat tasty AP.

Its why its getting nerfed.

Stamplars are a sad sight though.

EZgoin76 · February 2016

Yep misunderstood your question. But like Phat said, dual wield stamplar is a perfectly viable build.

Artjuh90 · February 2016

SanSan wrote: »

PhatGrimReaper wrote: »

SanSan wrote: »

PhatGrimReaper wrote: »

SanSan wrote: »

Is dual wield templar a thing?

Unsure if trolling....... will assume not for the time being.... lol

Yes, for both Magicka & Stam

I wasn't trolling lol. I love dual wield and templar skills. I googled templar dual wield and haven't found much about them. I don't want to make a weak class

Magicka or Stam?

Stam.

well it could work i would use things like rune, jabs, flying dagger, steel tornado toppeling charge on one bar and you could go bow or something else you like on another (if you go another melee i would also use shuffle)

AlnilamE · February 2016

My templar tank is fine, thank you for asking.

Also, a friend who has a templar spends his days farmin vWGT. Any time I run with him it's smooth sailing because he has pretty good DPS.

PhatGrimReaper · February 2016

PhatGrimReaper wrote: »

EZgoin76 wrote: »

PhatGrimReaper wrote: »

EZgoin76 wrote: »

Hmm Dragonknight, Templar, Sorcerer and Nightblade. Pretty sure that's four classes. What are the other two?

Stam anything except NB would be one I guess.... they use pretty much the same skills

Sorry, I was trying to be a little sarcastic to the OP. There are only four classes unless you make the distinction between magicka and stamina for each class.

Don't worry, I have been known to be a little sarcastic from time to time....

Who agreed with this? If I catch you.........

vyndral13preub18_ESO · February 2016

LBxFinalDeath wrote: »

Magicka Templar can rek people tbh...its just that breath of life spamming is just so much more easy mode.

Smash BoL to win 24/7 is the key to high army ranks and zerg victories, all dat tasty AP.

Its why its getting nerfed.

Stamplars are a sad sight though.

What is so funny about that? Sorcs When given a better version of smash to win 24/7 the key to high army ranks and Zerg victories with all that tasty AP you know what they keep sayin? Yeah, that isn't good enough for me to use.

But the OP is being a bit silly as well.

WldKarde · February 2016

So I'm guessing that your point OP is that you don't like templars...

Well thanks for sharing that with the world. One question though...

If they are Sooo horrible, then why are there so many people out there who continue to play them at a high level?

I'm not by any stretch a good player, but I will tell you that my multiple templar characters are quite effective in any roll I play them. Their ONLY real shortcoming (besides some broken skills) would be the player (me) driving them.

So I guess my point is...
what the hell is the point of this thread?

Artjuh90 · February 2016

wldkarde wrote: »

So I'm guessing that your point OP is that you don't like templars...

Well thanks for sharing that with the world. One question though...

If they are Sooo horrible, then why are there so many people out there who continue to play them at a high level?

I'm not by any stretch a good player, but I will tell you that my multiple templar characters are quite effective in any roll I play them. Their ONLY real shortcoming (besides some broken skills) would be the player (me) driving them.

So I guess my point is...
what the hell is the point of this thread?

well and the lack on options on them though. you are kinda forced into a couple abilty's even more so then other classes

WldKarde · February 2016

Artjuh90 wrote: »

well and the lack on options on them though. you are kinda forced into a couple abilty's even more so then other classes

I'll give you that, but I think some of those lack of choices boils down to the number of templar skills that are still broken. Can't blame the class for that, but we can hope that ZOS will get around to fixing them Soon (tm)

I can dream can't I

Saucy_Jack · February 2016

Honest question as someone who's played a temp for a while:

I keep hearing about BoL, BoL, BoL, ad nauseum. I can understand it being a good heal if you're running with a partner or in a group...but if I'm playing solo, why not use Honor the Dead, since it's an instant heal instead of a HoT?

Artjuh90 · February 2016

wldkarde wrote: »

Artjuh90 wrote: »

well and the lack on options on them though. you are kinda forced into a couple abilty's even more so then other classes

I'll give you that, but I think some of those lack of choices boils down to the number of templar skills that are still broken. Can't blame the class for that, but we can hope that ZOS will get around to fixing them Soon (tm)

I can dream can't I

that's the problem though, we got one less tree to use offensively because we should (not according to ZOS though) be the best healing class which is dedicated to it so we lose out on 1/3 of offensive skills and then we have most amount of broken skills. it's like really ZOS? why.....

WldKarde · February 2016

My guess @Saucy_Jack would be that since you have to morph to one or the other...BOL just gives you a more rounded heal, both for single play AND group content.