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Summary of Wrobel's Comments on Templars from ESO live
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Wrobel did specifically start theorizing about adding cast times to shields. He had the whole thing worked out as a "cast time, but with a bigger base shield value", and that the logic behind it would be that, "shields would be a buff you apply before combat instead of active damage mitigation."Sallington wrote: »david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »Oh, and he might decide to nerf the Templar's Sun Shield to make it have a cast time!
The hits just keep coming.
Lol there's no way that idea was mentioned.
Pure diarrhea of the mouth.Cyrodiil (the PvP map) is open-world and supports up to 2000 players in it at the same time. ESO’s client is designed to be able to handle (on the recommended spec) 200 players on screen at the same time. -
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✭✭✭✭HoloYoitsu wrote: »
Wrobel did specifically start theorizing about adding cast times to shields. He had the whole thing worked out as a "cast time, but with a bigger base shield value", and that the logic behind it would be that, "shields would be a buff you apply before combat instead of active damage mitigation."Sallington wrote: »david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »Oh, and he might decide to nerf the Templar's Sun Shield to make it have a cast time!
The hits just keep coming.
Lol there's no way that idea was mentioned.
Pure diarrhea of the mouth.
I actually think cast time shields could work in a way that everyone, other than Sorcs, could be happy with. Of course, this would depend on ZOS to do it right.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
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✭timidobserver wrote: »Of course, this would depend on ZOS to do it right.
So basically no chance it will ever happen?
Templars are 'just slower... by design'
Yes, Gina actually said that (at least regarding Rushed Ceremony) right here:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161959/templar-skills-bugged-made-useless-ignored/p24
VR 16 Templar (retired until Templars get fixed)
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✭✭✭david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »Of course, this would depend on ZOS to do it right.
So basically no chance it will ever happen?
No it means they will implement it, some people will complain, some will rejoice, but ultimately it will even out... except the templar version will be bugged and lock your skill bars.@wayfarerx - PC / North America / Aldmeri Dominion -
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✭✭✭✭david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »Of course, this would depend on ZOS to do it right.
So basically no chance it will ever happen?
Most likely.
While I think many of his ideas are terrible, this one could work. In no way could Sorcs ever be happy with it, but everyone else(stam and magicka) builds could be happy with it if they did it right.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
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The problem is that Sorcs don't have an alternative, no good reliable self heal, no dmg avoidance like Cloak, no Dodge + Vigor like Stam builds. The new pet heals are gated behind a cast time on the pets & the pets pathetically low HP (and the way they don't get protected by Battle Spirit). Crit Surge is RNG, which makes it useless.timidobserver wrote: »HoloYoitsu wrote: »
Wrobel did specifically start theorizing about adding cast times to shields. He had the whole thing worked out as a "cast time, but with a bigger base shield value", and that the logic behind it would be that, "shields would be a buff you apply before combat instead of active damage mitigation."Sallington wrote: »david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »Oh, and he might decide to nerf the Templar's Sun Shield to make it have a cast time!
The hits just keep coming.
Lol there's no way that idea was mentioned.
Pure diarrhea of the mouth.
I actually think cast time shields could work in a way that everyone, other than Sorcs, could be happy with. Of course, this would depend on ZOS to do it right.
And it's not just Sorcs that would suffer. DKs rely on Major Mending from Igneous Shield to survive w/ Blessing of Restoration. A cast time on Igneous Shield would pretty much make it worthless.
Putting cast times on shields would necessitate a complete redesign in non Templar Magicka healing abilities in order to not completely gimp Magicka builds in general (Healing Ward). And that's something I have zero faith in Wrobel being able to do properly.Cyrodiil (the PvP map) is open-world and supports up to 2000 players in it at the same time. ESO’s client is designed to be able to handle (on the recommended spec) 200 players on screen at the same time. -
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I think this is a nice TL:DR
Edited by Ra'Shtar on February 12, 2016 11:47PMSome of my favorite screenshots
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✭✭✭✭HoloYoitsu wrote: »
The problem is that Sorcs don't have an alternative, no good reliable self heal, no dmg avoidance like Cloak, no Dodge + Vigor like Stam builds. The new pet heals are gated behind a cast time on the pets & the pets pathetically low HP (and the way they don't get protected by Battle Spirit). Crit Surge is RNG, which makes it useless.timidobserver wrote: »HoloYoitsu wrote: »
Wrobel did specifically start theorizing about adding cast times to shields. He had the whole thing worked out as a "cast time, but with a bigger base shield value", and that the logic behind it would be that, "shields would be a buff you apply before combat instead of active damage mitigation."Sallington wrote: »david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »Oh, and he might decide to nerf the Templar's Sun Shield to make it have a cast time!
The hits just keep coming.
Lol there's no way that idea was mentioned.
Pure diarrhea of the mouth.
I actually think cast time shields could work in a way that everyone, other than Sorcs, could be happy with. Of course, this would depend on ZOS to do it right.
And it's not just Sorcs that would suffer. DKs rely on Major Mending from Igneous Shield to survive w/ Blessing of Restoration. A cast time on Igneous Shield would pretty much make it worthless.
Putting cast times on shields would necessitate a complete redesign in non Templar Magicka healing abilities in order to not completely gimp Magicka builds in general (Healing Ward). And that's something I have zero faith in Wrobel being able to do properly.
Yup, like I said they'd have to do it correctly. Doing it correctly involves making any shield not currently not worth the cast time worth it, and moving any buffs that become useless when placed behind a cast time to other abilities without a cast time.
As far as Sorcs go, I am okay with Sorcs losing on this one honestly.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
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✭david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »Of course, this would depend on ZOS to do it right.
So basically no chance it will ever happen?
No it means they will implement it, some people will complain, some will rejoice, but ultimately it will even out... except the templar version will be bugged and lock your skill bars.
you sir get an awesome -
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✭✭✭✭✭If they really want an a la carte approach to roles, they should gut the entire system.
Pick a race.
Pick a magicka, stamina, or health specialization passive.
Pick a resistance or recovery passive.
Pick a bonus ability passive.
Pick any three class skill trees.
Now do whatever the *** you want in the game.
The huge glaring issue is that you have to min/max now to overcome developer-created setbacks. So we now have thousands of people but only four or five dependable competitive builds. That's a cluster *** and it's just going to get really old really fast as the year progresses.
But hey, remember ZOS's terms of service:
"YOU AGREE THAT YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY FOR ANY DISPUTE WITH ZENIMAX OR ITS LICENSORS OR RESELLERS ARISING OUT OF OR RELATING TO THESE TERMS OF SERVICE OR ANY SERVICE IS TO STOP USING OR ACCESSING THE SERVICE AND CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT, SUBSCRIPTION OR MEMBERSHIP."
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✭timidobserver wrote: »HoloYoitsu wrote: »
Wrobel did specifically start theorizing about adding cast times to shields. He had the whole thing worked out as a "cast time, but with a bigger base shield value", and that the logic behind it would be that, "shields would be a buff you apply before combat instead of active damage mitigation."Sallington wrote: »david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »Oh, and he might decide to nerf the Templar's Sun Shield to make it have a cast time!
The hits just keep coming.
Lol there's no way that idea was mentioned.
Pure diarrhea of the mouth.
I actually think cast time shields could work in a way that everyone, other than Sorcs, could be happy with. Of course, this would depend on ZOS to do it right.
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✭WalkingLegacy wrote: »SerenaAnastasia wrote: »I might just move on to Black Desert Online if this is whats going to keep happening....
ZoS is slowly killing the game. They started with Templars, I wonder what class will be next.
They wont stop until they make everybody change to a nightblade or sorc so that they can survive in pvp...
And then NB will be nerfed to hell and Sorc will be the reigning class which is the class everyone will roll on.
After that the game will die.
I hear Wrobel plays NB so I doubt it will be nerfed to uselessness.
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MikeB✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »I'm not sure they play this game. Seriously.
They don't. It's PAINFULLY obvious. This is the absolute last straw for me. In my 25+ years of gaming I have never been so angry at a developer and I used to play CoD. They are balancing the game based on streamers and pen & paper numbers. How about instead of watching people play you play it yourself @Wrobel? It wouldn't take 5 min to see how wrong you are with everything you say and I do mean everything.Edited by MikeB on February 13, 2016 12:10AM -
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✭ColoursYouHave wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »SerenaAnastasia wrote: »I might just move on to Black Desert Online if this is whats going to keep happening....
ZoS is slowly killing the game. They started with Templars, I wonder what class will be next.
They wont stop until they make everybody change to a nightblade or sorc so that they can survive in pvp...
And then NB will be nerfed to hell and Sorc will be the reigning class which is the class everyone will roll on.
After that the game will die.
I hear Wrobel plays NB so I doubt it will be nerfed to uselessness.
I have a hard time believing Wrobel plays anything in this game at all.
I agree, especially after watching and listening to him this recent Live. It sounds like he plays Excel Scrolls Online more than Elder Scrolls Online. Damn crying shame.
Like having a boss trying to tell you how to do your job, but that boss has never actually done the job...Edited by WalkingLegacy on February 13, 2016 12:07AM -
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He knows his stuff.ColoursYouHave wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »SerenaAnastasia wrote: »I might just move on to Black Desert Online if this is whats going to keep happening....
ZoS is slowly killing the game. They started with Templars, I wonder what class will be next.
They wont stop until they make everybody change to a nightblade or sorc so that they can survive in pvp...
And then NB will be nerfed to hell and Sorc will be the reigning class which is the class everyone will roll on.
After that the game will die.
I hear Wrobel plays NB so I doubt it will be nerfed to uselessness.
I have a hard time believing Wrobel plays anything in this game at all.
Eric Wrobel wrote:You should wait till you get to 0 before using a potion.Edited by HoloYoitsu on February 13, 2016 12:08AMCyrodiil (the PvP map) is open-world and supports up to 2000 players in it at the same time. ESO’s client is designed to be able to handle (on the recommended spec) 200 players on screen at the same time. -
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✭✭✭Wreuntzylla wrote: »So, let me see if I understand you right. Templar healing has been reduced to be on par with every other class, but escapability, DPS, burst and sustain have not been increased to to be on par with the other classes?
Don't forget Templar has vastly inferior CC compared to every other class, as well as inferior mitigation.US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
US/AD - Arondonimo - Vet Altmer Sorcerer | US/AD - Azumarax - Vet Dunmer Dragon Knight
US/AD - Barkan al-Sheharesh - Vet Redguard Dragon Knight | US/AD - Aelus Vortavoriil - Vet Altmer Templar
US/AD - Shirari Qa'Dar - Vet Khajiit Nightblade | US/AD - Ndvari Mzunchvolenthumz - Vet Bosmer Nightblade
US/EP - Yngmar - Vet Nord Dragon Knight | US/EP - Reloth Ur Fyr - Vet Dunmer Sorcerer
US/DC - Muiredeach - Vet Breton Sorcerer | US/DC - Nachtrabe - Vet Orc Nightblade
EU/DC - Dragol gro-Unglak - Vet Orc Dragon Knight | EU/DC - Targan al-Barkan - Vet Redguard Templar
EU/DC - Wuthmir - Vet Nord Sorcerer | EU/DC - Kosh Ragotoro - Vet Khajiit Nightblade
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mistermutiny89✭✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »HoloYoitsu wrote: »
Wrobel did specifically start theorizing about adding cast times to shields. He had the whole thing worked out as a "cast time, but with a bigger base shield value", and that the logic behind it would be that, "shields would be a buff you apply before combat instead of active damage mitigation."Sallington wrote: »david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »Oh, and he might decide to nerf the Templar's Sun Shield to make it have a cast time!
The hits just keep coming.
Lol there's no way that idea was mentioned.
Pure diarrhea of the mouth.
I actually think cast time shields could work in a way that everyone, other than Sorcs, could be happy with. Of course, this would depend on ZOS to do it right.
I think the cast time is a terrible idea. My belief is that shield stacking should not exist. The moment you cast one damage shield, that should be your only damage shield.
A mag sorc fights a Stam build?? Pops conjured... Mag vs mag? Harness magicka. Not two or three shields at once. Situational skill use.Edited by mistermutiny89 on February 13, 2016 12:49AMGuild Leader : Defenders Of Miley
XB1 EU
EP | VR16 Breton NB -mistermutiny
AD | VR16 Dunmer DK - Grigori
AD | VR16 Altmer Sorcerer - Isvoleet
AD | VR16 Imperial DK - Leonidas
AD | VR16 Bosmer NB - Hood
AD | VR16 Breton Templar - Dante
AD | VR16 Redguard Sorcerer - Raiden
AD | VR7 Khajiit Templar - Ike'ilyew
DC | 160 Breton NB - Vergil
"Hmmm... Very convincing.. Does the illusion apply to.. Everywhere? Perhaps this one should have a moment alone in private to double check" - Razum'Dar -
Bossdonut✭✭✭✭✭WalkingLegacy wrote: »ColoursYouHave wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »SerenaAnastasia wrote: »I might just move on to Black Desert Online if this is whats going to keep happening....
ZoS is slowly killing the game. They started with Templars, I wonder what class will be next.
They wont stop until they make everybody change to a nightblade or sorc so that they can survive in pvp...
And then NB will be nerfed to hell and Sorc will be the reigning class which is the class everyone will roll on.
After that the game will die.
I hear Wrobel plays NB so I doubt it will be nerfed to uselessness.
I have a hard time believing Wrobel plays anything in this game at all.
I agree, especially after watching and listening to him this recent Live. It sounds like he plays Excel Scrolls Online more than Elder Scrolls Online. Damn crying shame.
Like having a boss trying to tell you how to do your job, but that boss has never actually done the job...
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jeevin✭✭✭✭✭Good Job @Wrobel, you made it where after 3 weeks I was thinking of playing ESO again but after tonight's live I am certain I will never pick up the game again as long as you are in charge of anything. You should be a code monkey at best.
Actually I think he may do less damage as the coffee boy.
