Summary of Wrobel's Comments on Templars from ESO live

Mr.Hmm

I might just move on to Black Desert Online if this is whats going to keep happening....


ZoS is slowly killing the game. They started with Templars, I wonder what class will be next.

NewBlacksmurf

I don't think he actually plays the game.
I'd rather the testers implement their change ideas cause the quality testers even on examples they shared understand the game. The Dev teams do not.

Glad they made that clear
(This isn't everyone)

CherryCake

Mr.Hmm wrote: »

I might just move on to Black Desert Online if this is whats going to keep happening....


ZoS is slowly killing the game. They started with Templars, I wonder what class will be next.

They wont stop until they make everybody change to a nightblade or sorc so that they can survive in pvp...

JayhawK

Ra'Shtar wrote: »

Also i found insulting how he said that something bad happens to enemies that enter ''your house'', NOTHING happens when enemies enter Rune Focus or Cleansing Ritual. How can this be ''my house'' if i can't even shoot intruders.

Lol i was dying when he said the "my house" thing. he must have been confused because he was clearly thinking of a sorc stacking shields and sitting in mines and not me sitting in a rune focus lol

Mr.Hmm

SerenaAnastasia wrote: »

Mr.Hmm wrote: »

I might just move on to Black Desert Online if this is whats going to keep happening....


ZoS is slowly killing the game. They started with Templars, I wonder what class will be next.

They wont stop until they make everybody change to a nightblade or sorc so that they can survive in pvp...

And then NB will be nerfed to hell and Sorc will be the reigning class which is the class everyone will roll on.

After that the game will die.

Bars

yep BDO is looking a good bet atm

Fuzzybrick

I'm happy it got nerfed. I do fine on my Templar without it. Honestly it makes me sick when that's all I see templar's doing when I run with one of my other toons. Next thing I know the templar is screaming because they have no magicka and everyone dies because the bol spam stopped. I don't have a problem with my dps either. Id be happy with a dps buff but it's not needed, sometimes I wonder if the forum community is playing the same game as me.

Artjuh90

not to forget he mentioned hardcore players have no life. Now you know

Toxic_Hemlock

SerenaAnastasia wrote: »

What? What were they thinking to reduce the healing of templars? Then what will the templar be good for? Sparkling around like Edward Cullen???

He probably believes that all classes should be self sufficient enough to handle most things.

Problem is that when all falls apart all the blame is placed upon the healer. In order to do our job as efficiently as possible we need the tools to do so, and nerfing our main "oh crap" button was not what was needed IMO.

Mr.Hmm

Fuzzybrick wrote: »

I'm happy it got nerfed. I do fine on my Templar without it. Honestly it makes me sick when that's all I see templar's doing when I run with one of my other toons. Next thing I know the templar is screaming because they have no magicka and everyone dies because the bol spam stopped. I don't have a problem with my dps either. Id be happy with a dps buff but it's not needed, sometimes I wonder if the forum community is playing the same game as me.

The BoL spam most of the time happened in PvP because people there melt like butter and BoL kept them alive.

I barely use it in PvE but I still use it when my group is in Danger Zone(20% HP) for an instant 3 people heal.

CherryCake

Yes but then it means that in the end it wont matter what classes we choose since all of them should be a bit of everything, damage dealing and healing... then we wont have the traditional tank, the traditional healer...

NewBlacksmurf

Toxic_Hemlock wrote: »

SerenaAnastasia wrote: »

What? What were they thinking to reduce the healing of templars? Then what will the templar be good for? Sparkling around like Edward Cullen???

He probably believes that all classes should be self sufficient enough to handle most things.

Problem is that when all falls apart all the blame is placed upon the healer. In order to do our job as efficiently as possible we need the tools to do so, and nerfing our main "oh crap" button was not what was needed IMO.

Exactly but the devs don't play it seems so they think their ideas make sense just cause they work on paper and in their QnA sessions. Considering they have to spend so much time watching live streams....why not just go play your dang game.

Blows my mind. Why wouldn't you just play the game on the live servers and just be alias.

Lettigall

Wrobel wants us to stay on our ground while in combat key to survival is mobility. Want to survive- be mobile breake LoS, use surroundings, move out of stupid. Standing still like sack of potatoes is stupid and gets you killed.

timidobserver

Tankqull wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

He did mention about mobility though, he doesn't want templars to be that type of class and want's them to stand their ground in their robes and be rekt by meteors. No mobility = death.

he actually said he wants them to somewhat have a "this is my house get out of here" attitude (setting up their cicrles) wich would be ok if temps would have the toolset to do so... but they don´t.

Rune Focus is a tiny circle. Their goal should be to buff it to the point that any enemy encountering me in PvP feels the need to try to make me move out of my circle. As it stands, I could care less if a Templar is standing in their Rune Focus.

Seido_Tensei_

Fuzzybrick wrote: »

I'm happy it got nerfed. I do fine on my Templar without it. Honestly it makes me sick when that's all I see templar's doing when I run with one of my other toons. Next thing I know the templar is screaming because they have no magicka and everyone dies because the bol spam stopped. I don't have a problem with my dps either. Id be happy with a dps buff but it's not needed, sometimes I wonder if the forum community is playing the same game as me.

I think you are probably not playing against or with other high level players..... I do not use BoL to heal dungeons nor do I have an issue with DPS,but to act like the Templar class has no issues indicates your likely a below average player who doesn't even know what the class is deficient in

sekou_trayvond

Well, if anything else, with legions of you, apparently leaving the Templar class in droves, I look forward to ZOS' in house stats showing the huge drop in templars being utilized, thus necessitating ginormous buffs to make the class palatable once more under the masses discerning gaze.

I'll stick with my beloved templars and eventually enjoy being a buffed powerhouse.

MWHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

:-)

NewBlacksmurf

Lettigall wrote: »

Wrobel wants us to stay on our ground while in combat key to survival is mobility. Want to survive- be mobile breake LoS, use surroundings, move out of stupid. Standing still like sack of potatoes is stupid and gets you killed.

While that logic makes sense. We don't all play PvP.
What applies to PvP doesn't apply to PvE.

In PvE we move out of red or possible red. Other than that...these changes are just frustrating.

Change is fine when there are problems but there wasn't a problem. He literally went on ESO Live and said well Templars had an effective spell and this and that spell worked well so we decided to make it less effective because....we want ppl to use a rejuv staff more.


What the hell kinda logic is that?
The whole point of that tree is to heal without a staff so you can use the 2nd bar for resto staff

I'm not sure they play this game. Seriously.

Artjuh90

Mr.Hmm wrote: »

I might just move on to Black Desert Online if this is whats going to keep happening....


ZoS is slowly killing the game. They started with Templars, I wonder what class will be next.

stamina in general

Toxic_Hemlock

Lettigall wrote: »

Wrobel wants us to stay on our ground while in combat key to survival is mobility. Want to survive- be mobile breake LoS, use surroundings, move out of stupid. Standing still like sack of potatoes is stupid and gets you killed.

And here is another thing. IF we are to meant to stand our ground then GIVE us the TOOLS to do so!

If using a heal makes us a sitting duck, at very least give us a shield that we can use while all these skills are being channeled.

Artjuh90

the rune would be great to negate spells for like 25% or something. that would make it unique.
numbers would be for ZoS to calculate

Gidorick

david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »

Edit: Someone asked him won't it suck if a Templar tries to heal and knocks people out of Rapid Maneuvers?

He's 'happy with it', because that means that people will use Honor the Dead, since it will only knock one person rather than two out of Rapid Maneuvers!

Awesome stuff!

This sounds in direct conflict with a play
how you want to design. This is more a "play this class in this very specific way" design.

NewBlacksmurf

Artjuh90 wrote: »

the rune would be great to negate spells for like 25% or something. that would make it unique.
numbers would be for ZoS to calculate

The Templar skill?

Yes but with the changes, it should be a shield like cast instead of on the ground. But with all the same effects.

WalkingLegacy

Mr.Hmm wrote: »

SerenaAnastasia wrote: »

Mr.Hmm wrote: »

I might just move on to Black Desert Online if this is whats going to keep happening....


ZoS is slowly killing the game. They started with Templars, I wonder what class will be next.

They wont stop until they make everybody change to a nightblade or sorc so that they can survive in pvp...

And then NB will be nerfed to hell and Sorc will be the reigning class which is the class everyone will roll on.

After that the game will die.

I hear Wrobel plays NB so I doubt it will be nerfed to uselessness.

Mr.Hmm

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

Mr.Hmm wrote: »

SerenaAnastasia wrote: »

Mr.Hmm wrote: »

I might just move on to Black Desert Online if this is whats going to keep happening....


ZoS is slowly killing the game. They started with Templars, I wonder what class will be next.

They wont stop until they make everybody change to a nightblade or sorc so that they can survive in pvp...

And then NB will be nerfed to hell and Sorc will be the reigning class which is the class everyone will roll on.

After that the game will die.

I hear Wrobel plays NB so I doubt it will be nerfed to uselessness.

True but you never know.

They might rebel against @Wrobel and nerf NB

Artjuh90

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Artjuh90 wrote: »

the rune would be great to negate spells for like 25% or something. that would make it unique.
numbers would be for ZoS to calculate

The Templar skill?

Yes but with the changes, it should be a shield like cast instead of on the ground. But with all the same effects.

ye what i ment. it would fullfill what a templar should be doing according to wrobel. would make it unique because a relfect scales is different. and they could stand their ground like they want.

Bashev

Do you remember 2 weeks ago when @ZOS_GinaBruno said that we will have @wrobel today in the show and they gave us these 2 weeks to test the changes and give our feedback. We gave it but what it will be implemented in the next DLC, update 10.

Toxic_Hemlock

As if we never heard LFG Healer enough!

Gonna hear crickets after these changes go live.

NewBlacksmurf

Artjuh90 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Artjuh90 wrote: »

the rune would be great to negate spells for like 25% or something. that would make it unique.
numbers would be for ZoS to calculate

The Templar skill?

Yes but with the changes, it should be a shield like cast instead of on the ground. But with all the same effects.

ye what i ment. it would fullfill what a templar should be doing according to wrobel. would make it unique because a relfect scales is different. and they could stand their ground like they want.

Agreed.

He comes off tho as if he doesn't play the game enough.
Yeah he understands stuff cause he's on the dev team but these games...players don't usually do what the devs think so I need all of them to get online a lot more and stop messing with stuff that works. Fix stuff that isn't working as intended and stop trying to balance stuff which ends up breaking stuff

pecheckler

Seems pretty obvious the ones making the balance decisions only review stats and don't actually PLAY the game.

mistermutiny89

We're also going to ensure that biting jabs does not crit and that the magicka morph's off heals are reduced from 40% to 0000.1% healing over 2,500 seconds. This is to prevent people from over using this ability and ensuring people pay more attention to abilities like "Hammer kneel" in the emotes skill line.

We'll also be adding a passive where for each hour you play your Templar, your skill points will decay, because reasons.

#satire. We have fun.

Up next Stam Sorc changes with stamina morphs for pets.