Can we get a toggle for buttflaps and crotchflaps?

ShadowHvo · February 2016

Please?

It would be nice if we could be given the option to hide those pesky little buttflaps and crotchflaps from our characters. It could be much like how mount armor/bags/straps are handled, with a toggle option in the options menu.

That would make a lot of players a little more happy =/

Volkodav · February 2016

This is the only time I have heard anyone wanting this.Well,..once before.But not a lot of people call for it.Personally,I dont mind the flaps.I prefer them to the plain look without them.Some armor doesnt have flaps,and it makes my Char look like he has no shape.Just straight down.

ListerJMC · February 2016

I've only heard of people wanting to toggle the side flaps before, which I wouldn't mind. They oddly levitate and swing around when I run and it's a little distracting. They do look cool when I'm stationary in some styles though.

NewBlacksmurf · February 2016

ListerJMC wrote: »

I've only heard of people wanting to toggle the side flaps before, which I wouldn't mind. They oddly levitate and swing around when I run and it's a little distracting. They do look cool when I'm stationary in some styles though.

Let me add to those few for you.
I've always wanted these off. Since I first saw the game even before I got into closed beta

Remeber this photo. I thought it wouldnt be like this - http://www.mmofront.com/sign-up-for-the-elder-scrolls-online-closed-beta.html

Elijah_Crow · February 2016

I have no idea what has gotten into the art team.

#nomoreflaps

ShadowHvo · February 2016

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

I have no idea what has gotten into the art team.

#nomoreflaps

Thats the spirit!

#NoMoreFlaps

^
Make this a thing everyone!

KhajiitiLizard · February 2016

Well, Khajiit and Argonians by default have no butt flaps so we know it can be done.

Iove · February 2016

What if it reduces the lag in Cyrodiil?

But honestly, I would LOVE this option.

Iove · February 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

This is the only time I have heard anyone wanting this.Well,..once before.But not a lot of people call for it.Personally,I dont mind the flaps.I prefer them to the plain look without them.Some armor doesnt have flaps,and it makes my Char look like he has no shape.Just straight down.

Well dear Sir, this has to be the 3rd time I've seen calls for something like this. A previous thread also showed how Devs have removed said flaps from some NPC's armours already.
I doubt this would be that hard to implement, especially with how much they are making from the cash shop rn.

Keeping fingers crossed for them to listen on this one.

Moonscythe · February 2016

I would love to get the crotch flaps toggled. They are under the Altmer light jerkin and clip through all the time and I hate that. I like the look of the Altmer light but won't use it because of the clipping. I really want to toggle shoulders though. I have to wear a costume sometimes because I'm mismatched and the shoulders look stoopid.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · February 2016

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

I have no idea what has gotten into the art team.

Agreed. I can understand the hip-flaps for heavy armor. But why do they insist on adding them to light and medium? Robes, jerkins/jackets should not have these.

ShadowHvo · February 2016

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober

Yo' guys, we know you great ZOS folk like fashion just as much as we do! Lets get an option for these pesky buttflaps and crothflaps! We, citizen of Tamriel should be able to choose if we wish to protect our jewels with a dangling piece of cloth, or not!

#nomoreflaps

Blackers · February 2016

I made a post about this on the PTS forum.

They went ahead and added flaps to the outlaw armor when it looked so much better without.

forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/246648/crotch-and-butt-flaps-need-to-stop#latest

The flappy nonsense needs to stop

#nomoreflaps

Inarre · February 2016

Im nuetral on the overall issue but i recently got v16 and naturally was super excited for my reward.

Have you seen this crotch flap? Wtf.

#nomoreimperialchancellorliquidcrotchflaps

Vyle_Byte · February 2016

I concur, flaps need to go! Some of them are down right hideous! Toggle option would be fine by me!

#NOMOREFLAPS

Elijah_Crow · February 2016

This is a great example:

#nomoreflaps

Jura23 · February 2016

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

This is a great example:

#nomoreflaps

why?!?

Marrtha · February 2016

LOL

ShadowHvo · February 2016

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

This is a great example:

#nomoreflaps

Yes indeed!

It just showcases how easily those pesky flaps can ruin an otherwise amazing and perfect armor!

Everybody! We must make Zenimax listen to us with this campaign! No longer shall we, their playerbase, lie down! We're the true citizens of Tamriel, their everyday costumers! We have the right to speak up about this injustice. For far too long have these damned buttflaps and crotchflaps ruined our daily lives and fashion senses!

But fear not my dearest ESO brethren, for Zenimax must, and shall hear our demand for an optional toggle for crotchflaps and buttflaps! Spread the word! #NoMoreFlaps

Volkodav · February 2016

Iove wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

This is the only time I have heard anyone wanting this.Well,..once before.But not a lot of people call for it.Personally,I dont mind the flaps.I prefer them to the plain look without them.Some armor doesnt have flaps,and it makes my Char look like he has no shape.Just straight down.

Well dear Sir, this has to be the 3rd time I've seen calls for something like this. A previous thread also showed how Devs have removed said flaps from some NPC's armours already.
I doubt this would be that hard to implement, especially with how much they are making from the cash shop rn.

Keeping fingers crossed for them to listen on this one.

Well dear Sir,
Being a Lady,Sir doesnt fit me.lol.
perhaps I may have seen one other person ask for this.But that's it.I'm sure it will be a thing though.People want anything they can find to be changed.

narvaneneb17_ESO · February 2016

I support the toggleable feature for no more flaps!
just wanted to air out that opinion!
This would be a great feature.

#nomoreflaps!

Iove · February 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

Iove wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

This is the only time I have heard anyone wanting this.Well,..once before.But not a lot of people call for it.Personally,I dont mind the flaps.I prefer them to the plain look without them.Some armor doesnt have flaps,and it makes my Char look like he has no shape.Just straight down.

Well dear Sir, this has to be the 3rd time I've seen calls for something like this. A previous thread also showed how Devs have removed said flaps from some NPC's armours already.
I doubt this would be that hard to implement, especially with how much they are making from the cash shop rn.

Keeping fingers crossed for them to listen on this one.

Well dear Sir,
Being a Lady,Sir doesnt fit me.lol.
perhaps I may have seen one other person ask for this.But that's it.I'm sure it will be a thing though.People want anything they can find to be changed.

I apologise, but I am not a Sir either so I suppose it happens.

Sorry for the assumption but your forum name has a masculine ending in my native tongue.

Shogunami · February 2016

If you guys make anyone at ZOS take time away from any other work or project just to do what you're asking here, I will.. you just imagine something awful. Just so you know.

I'm not saying "no" to whatever it is that you have gotten a stick in the arse about, but it's probably the absolutely LAST item on the list of things to fix

Volkodav · February 2016

Iove wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Iove wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

This is the only time I have heard anyone wanting this.Well,..once before.But not a lot of people call for it.Personally,I dont mind the flaps.I prefer them to the plain look without them.Some armor doesnt have flaps,and it makes my Char look like he has no shape.Just straight down.

Well dear Sir, this has to be the 3rd time I've seen calls for something like this. A previous thread also showed how Devs have removed said flaps from some NPC's armours already.
I doubt this would be that hard to implement, especially with how much they are making from the cash shop rn.

Keeping fingers crossed for them to listen on this one.

Well dear Sir,
Being a Lady,Sir doesnt fit me.lol.
perhaps I may have seen one other person ask for this.But that's it.I'm sure it will be a thing though.People want anything they can find to be changed.

I apologise, but I am not a Sir either so I suppose it happens.
Sorry for the assumption but your forum name has a masculine ending in my native tongue.

Ahh.It's ok.I promise. :}
I use that word because it is supposed to mean Wolfhound.

Iove · February 2016

Shogunami wrote: »

If you guys make anyone at ZOS take time away from any other work or project just to do what you're asking here, you are bad people. Just so you know.

I'm not saying "no" to whatever it is that you have gotten a stick in the arse about, but it's probably the absolutely LAST item on the list of things to fix

Do not underestimate aesthetics in an MMO

gw2 has no gear progression at all, it just runs on character aesthetics alone.

That's big.

LucianTitu · February 2016

#nomoreflaps!

Hymzir · February 2016

ESO armor design sucks. There are basically 4 things wrong with it. Some may not bother everyone, but if you have any familiarity with real armor, the ones in ESO will make you cringe. I present them in order of growing severity.

1 - The Cuirass for most armor is built in a totally implausible manner. They are complex messes of various bits and shapes and pay no heed to actual articulation. I also really detest the fact that supposedly rigid metal armor flexes with the breathing animation. But then again, most of them are really just body paints. Even so... there are enough okay styles available that I can live with this flaw.

2 - Hip flaps. Those things are just badly designed. And most of them would be unbearably cumbersome and restrictive to wear in battle. In fact several of them would be dangerous to the wearer. And not only due to their cumbersome design - some of them have spiky protrusions that clip with the character models hands when they are standing idle. What kind of imbecile would place spikes on an armor that basically cuts the users wrist every time he move his hands? A lot of them are also way too big and suffer from the same floatiness as shoulder bits. Finally, real tassets are positioned more to the front of the torso covering upper hips and are articulated to move with the leg, not hanging from the sides of the hips as they do in ESO, not really moving with the leg rather than just flapping about on their own. But this is something I can live with. Chalk it down to an artistic style difference between our world and theirs. It 's still a silly, impractical and, with some armors, painful idea.

3 - There is a fair amount of shoulderitis going on with the armors. Many of the Shoulder guards are just ginormous! And most of them float on your character, unless you have maximized their physical size. Most epaulets for light armor just look silly, and hiding them would be much appreciated feature. For some it works, but on most just looks really bad. And finally, as far as shoulders are concerned... For the love of all that is sensible and pretty, please let us have at least an option for having both shoulders covered when wearing monster set shoulder bits. For that reason alone, I have ignored collecting those bits completely.

Yes, asymmetrical armor is a thing, and I'd be okay with it, if there was some actual asymmetry going on! Wearing one shoulder guard, and only one, is not asymmetrical design. It's just wearing half of a full set! And if you do decided to make the things asymmetrical... please let us wear the bigger piece on the defending arm. I really don't want to restrict my sword arm by wearing a huge hunk of heavy steel on it.

4 - Groin flaps. Good grief. Those things are atrocious. Why are they added to every armor set in the game! Just look at real historical armor. You know the kind people have actually worn while bashing each other with melee weapons. See a trend? No groin flaps! There are very few groin flaps in real world armor, and the ones that have them, tend to have more of a decorative function and come as several separate strands of fabric for ease of movement. Not only that, but those things make riding horses pretty much impossible! But flaps are even harder for me to understand. And would make sitting down a fairly cumbersome exercise.

The only armor to feature groin flaps like ESO are modern ballistic armor, and even in those the flaps tend to be attached to a higher point on the torso so as not to restrict the wearers movements completely. And those things do not come with hip flaps either, since that would just totally prevent the wearer from moving. And the only reason those work on ballistic vests is because nobody expects you to ride a horse on the modern battlefield. And they do not come with but flaps since most soldiers appreciate the ability to be able to sit down.

I can only see the presence of those hideous and utterly impractical and pointless flaps as some misdirected attempt to limit sexualised content in ESO by covering the characters buts and groins. But come on! This game has been rated M anyway, and nothing will prevent people from trying to shift the camera for that upskirt shot, so just remove them already!!

Elijah_Crow · February 2016

Hip flaps are waaaay overdone as well. This is the reason the Ravager Chest is one of the best looking in the game (smallest hip flaps).

#nomoreflaps

Blackers · February 2016

Iove wrote: »

Shogunami wrote: »

If you guys make anyone at ZOS take time away from any other work or project just to do what you're asking here, you are bad people. Just so you know.

I'm not saying "no" to whatever it is that you have gotten a stick in the arse about, but it's probably the absolutely LAST item on the list of things to fix

Do not underestimate aesthetics in an MMO gw2 has no gear progression at all, it just runs on character aesthetics alone.

That's big.

Aesthetics are extremely important to me as a player, I spent so much time in GW2 to get my character to look just how i wanted and i enjoyed my time doing it, spending hours on end grinding for gear that just looked good so i could transmute it to something that that had the stats i wanted.

ZOS could learn a lot from how GW2 went about character customization.

So yes the removal of these flaps is important to a lot of us.

#nomoreflaps

Celas_Dranacea · February 2016

If you want to put your butt hole and *** in that kind of jeopardy with so many sharp objects around, I say it should be your choice, but don't blame anyone when something bad happens

NateAssassin · February 2016

I don't have the hip flaps, don't know what all of your guy's problem is but I don't have them.