Do you like the new patch?

attackjet

MrDerrikk

A bit

I like the Magicka DK buffs and a lot of the meta-mucking changes, but Templars I do feel a bit sorry for.

LBxFinalDeath

No

From what I read?

Nope, seems like Sorcs are gonna be the undisputed kings.

To be fair though, time will tell if its as bad as I expect.

Since I mainly play pvp these days the rest of the changes are meh to me, the templar BoL nerf was nice.

I've seen a couple vids of Templars getting beat on by pure DPS builds and their breath of life spam kept them alive for way too long when it was 1v4 and the Templars were cut off from their zergs too.

wayfarerx

A bit

The new zone is beautiful and I love the idea of finally being able to do quests for the thieves guild.

The templar situation is really disheartening, however. It's close to ruining the whole patch for me.

I did just finish leveling my magicka sorc to v16 though, so there are some silver linings.

attackjet

Yes

What I don't get is this, I've heard from various people that nightblades are op, ive also heard the same about dragon knights. And now every one is saying templars and sorcerers! I don't get it, if they are all op, than aren't they all truly balanced?

wayfarerx

A bit

attackjet wrote: »

And now every one is saying templars and sorcerers!

Who said templars are OP? Tell them to pass the skooma!

Lysette

Yes

Lots of interesting things for me in this patch. I don't worry much about if I have a stronger or weaker class to play. I am a role player and adapt to my character and her strength and weaknesses. I am not a thief type at all, but I am not my character, she might see this differently

LBxFinalDeath

No

Never seen anyone claim DKs or Templars are OP tbh @attackjet

Its usually NBs claiming Sorcs are OP and Sorcs claiming NBs are OP since they were the counter to each other with Templars and DKs claiming both are OP.

As you could imagine now that NB is getting the nerf stick taken to it...a lot of NBs will prolly re-roll as a Sorc.

MrDerrikk

A bit

attackjet wrote: »

What I don't get is this, I've heard from various people that nightblades are op, ive also heard the same about dragon knights. And now every one is saying templars and sorcerers! I don't get it, if they are all op, than aren't they all truly balanced?

Templars are the only class that isn't OP with these new changes, and Stam Sorcs/DK's are also either not being touched or having some better skills changed.

attackjet

Yes

I'm a nightblade, always been the rogue type. In all honesty its about the player and how they play the class.

leepalmer95

A bit

attackjet wrote: »

What I don't get is this, I've heard from various people that nightblades are op, ive also heard the same about dragon knights. And now every one is saying templars and sorcerers! I don't get it, if they are all op, than aren't they all truly balanced?

Currently it's:

1. Stam nb's - The best
2. Magicka sorc/ Magicka nb's - Second best classes
3.Stak dk (otherwise known as a 2h user)
4.
5.
6. Theres a big gap...
7. Mag Templar
8. Stam sorc/ Stam templar
9. Mag dk

Thats how it os for pvp at least.

Troneon

No

Deserts are not my thing.
I think the camels look stupid.
I am not into the thief / nb style of gameplay.
Templars been heavily nerfed....to point of being completely worthless.
More templar skills still bugged or broken...

Worst update so far.

DannyLV702

Yes

My sorc loves it

dem0n1k

I am not going to form an opinion until I try it.

It's a LOT of changes so it's hard for me to really see how it's going to pan out.. I'm not much of a theory crafter.

I also run all the classes on various characters so I will always have a FOTM character

ajwest927

A bit

I'm a sorc that stop using pets since I finished cadwell gold, and If they were going to tweak an sorc ability into a group healing ability, I really wish they would tweak dark exchange cause it has some real potential to make a good group healing ability and here is some ideas

1. Make it an heal over time ability but keep it as a single cost
2. Give the same effect to the nearest 1 or 2 allies.
3. If allies want stamina instead of magicka or vice versa depending on the morph they can exchange it by using synergy.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

A bit

It seems vampires have been indirectly nerfed, the reduction on the speed for major evasion or whatever it is called has been lowered to 30% and that means elusive mist is pointless again, they did however say they increases sprint speed or something but here is the thing you cant sprint in mistform.

Vaoh

Yes

Console player here. This patch has so many good things coming with it. The few questionable changes barely scratch the sheer amount of great additions. So far I really like it!

MrDerrikk

A bit

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

It seems vampires have been indirectly nerfed, the reduction on the speed for major evasion or whatever it is called has been lowered to 30% and that means elusive mist is pointless again, they did however say they increases sprint speed or something but here is the thing you cant sprint in mistform.

Mist only negated a portion of that 75% anyway, so I personally don't mind as it's just kicking a broken skill that I ditched a long while ago. Vamps need their own minor patch for actually fixing things.

Alorier

No

Do they really hate Templars that much

found1779

No

JD2013

Yep. It's actually quite fun so far. I know because I play it. Not basing off speculation.

found1779

JD2013 wrote: »

Yep. It's actually quite fun so far. I know because I play it. Not basing off speculation.

It isn't speculation when it's very clear to read nothing has been added in for a stamina sorcerer I don't even have to play on pts to see that it's dumb that's why these patch notes are no good to me

Knootewoot

A bit

I like the new area's and I don't have issues with the nerfs/fixes.

New armor sets are cool and I don't really see overpowered ones except maybe the one that makes dead opponents explode into ludicrous gibs.


But for me, I only want the lag gone in PvP. I could not test that out on PTS. I just hope it works good on live when it goes live. If not fixed, then no matter how good this update is, I will be disappointed. I just want to PvP.

Alucardo

A bit

I really need to get used to the CP system on there. Magicka builds were eating me alive (I literally got killed by a DK before I even finished buffing), even mobs were doing significantly more damage than usual.
Magicka DKs got some much needed love, and it shows. Not too crazy about Molten Weapons now, but yeah. Stam sorcs received zero buffs, which was surprising, and at the same time, disappointing.
Combat and movement feels a little sluggish, and the nerf to major expedition is going to take some getting used to.

Overall I'm not crazy about the patch, but it brings quite a few nice things at the same time.

acw37162

No

For some it works out very well.

My stamina Templar took it in the shorts, again.

Haven't logged into live since the notes went up.

Will prob unsub until the ability to change classes comes in the game.

JD2013

found1779 wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Yep. It's actually quite fun so far. I know because I play it. Not basing off speculation.

It isn't speculation when it's very clear to read nothing has been added in for a stamina sorcerer I don't even have to play on pts to see that it's dumb that's why these patch notes are no good to me

I'm sorry, but if you spend your whole life "reading between the lines" then you'll have no time to go and see outside of those lines and trying things for yourself.

Now, I do agree that Stamina Sorc could do with some love. That's something I would like to try myself, and of course Magicka Sorc will always be the most viable due to the nature of the class. Play how you want doesn't necessarily mean that every build you can think of is going to dominate. And that is of course at least half of the complaining on these forums.

From the PVP crowd who wants everything they can think of to dominate in PVP and kill everything, and if they get killed a few times, X is OP or X skill is broken because I died a few times.

Again I will also freely admit that more balance is needed, but balance in an MMO is mostly a lie. Even the WoW forums, as many years as its been going, has people saying that X class is broken or needs a buff or X skill needs a rework. They've spent patch after patch trying to deal with the PVP crowd and their skills, and yet nothing is ever good enough. Perhaps it's time for them to take a break at looking at skills, and look at PVP as a whole, and adding in more objectives etc as opposed to the current ball up and Zerg.

LorDrek

No

Still no balance, any buff stamina, only debuff for stamina builds.

Frenkthevile

A bit

I'm a Templar, so cannot really enjoy it at all...

Alucardo

A bit

The combat text is freaking awesome though. I love it. Console players are gonna be foaming from the mouth.

JD2013

Alucardo wrote: »

The combat text is freaking awesome though. I love it. Console players are gonna be foaming from the mouth.

You know, I was actually quite worried about this. I thought it would take up a lot more of the screen. Even the hit numbers above enemies are so small, that you barely notice them, and it's great to actually see what damage you're doing to an enemy.

I like the combat text. It serves its purpose really well and is a nice addition. Very pleasantly surprised.

Turelus

Yes

For the most part yes, as someone on a break from the game right now due to boredom of its current state (mostly PvP) I'm excited for what's announced and look forward to coming back for it.

HOWEVER... there are a lot of minor issues I have which I really hope they listen to the feedback on and get tweaked. I'm over the moon to see so many official feedback threads, it's damn amazing to have this level of dialogue from ZOS after so long, however now I am just preying they listen to some of that feedback and if they have made a mistake in the eyes of the community (such as 90% AP reductions to PvP skills) they'll admit they missed the mark and propose a new idea.

There is nothing wrong with making a mistake, if you can admit to it and improve from it.