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Innerlight/Inferno No Toggle Speculation
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ZOS claimed recently they are considering changing Innerlight from a toggle to an active ability. Anybody hear anything about this? Discuss.....
Edit: Oh I forgot, DK inferno skill is also on the new "no toggle" list....
@ZOS_GinaBruno @Wrobel @ZOS_JessicaFolsom can u enlighten us?
Edited by Cuyler on February 3, 2016 7:25PM Edit: Oh I forgot, DK inferno skill is also on the new "no toggle" list....
@ZOS_GinaBruno @Wrobel @ZOS_JessicaFolsom can u enlighten us?
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✭✭So last night supposedly, there was another guild summit. Out of that meeting came word that ZOS was changing Innerlight from a toggle to an active ability. Anybody hear anything about this? Discuss.....
An active ability? What kind of duration? This sounds like a terrible idea.:trollin: -
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This is all my ppl know so far, "Innerlight will no longer be a toggle". That was it. And yes I do not think anybody was asking for this change, not sure why.eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »
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Nice touch there!
Could be interesting if the duration is not something awful like 10 or even 15 seconds. It would free up a slot to also put siphoning attacks maybe on the other bar instead. Of course keeping those all active when you need them will be the big drag.
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I use Radiant Magelight personally. Does this mean I will have to constantly cast it just to get the benefit of it? I would rather it take up two slots than to have to constantly cast yet another buff.ScruffyWhiskers wrote: »
Nice touch there!
Could be interesting if the duration is not something awful like 10 or even 15 seconds. It would free up a slot to also put siphoning attacks maybe on the other bar instead. Of course keeping those all active when you need them will be the big drag.
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This is all my ppl know so far, "Innerlight will no longer be a toggle". That was it. And yes I do not think anybody was asking for this change, not sure why.eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »
This is why I don't like these guild summits, there is so little communication between the player base and them that they don't seem to be helping anyone all that much. -
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✭✭✭✭✭eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »
I use Radiant Magelight personally. Does this mean I will have to constantly cast it just to get the benefit of it? I would rather it take up two slots than to have to constantly cast yet another buff.ScruffyWhiskers wrote: »
Nice touch there!
Could be interesting if the duration is not something awful like 10 or even 15 seconds. It would free up a slot to also put siphoning attacks maybe on the other bar instead. Of course keeping those all active when you need them will be the big drag.
Yes. If it was made into an active ability you would need to constantly refresh it.
I'm hoping this is just something someone thought of and that thought quickly passes... -
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ScruffyWhiskers✭✭✭✭✭eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »I use Radiant Magelight personally. Does this mean I will have to constantly cast it just to get the benefit of it? I would rather it take up two slots than to have to constantly cast yet another buff.
I'm guessing it will be more like the Siphoning Strikes morph. One is a toggle and the other is an active ability. It would make sense for radiant to still be a toggle and inner to be the active. Maybe they will get rid of the magicka +5 boost and make it add major sorcery instead. That might be nice.
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Xeniph✭✭✭✭✭ScruffyWhiskers wrote: »eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »I use Radiant Magelight personally. Does this mean I will have to constantly cast it just to get the benefit of it? I would rather it take up two slots than to have to constantly cast yet another buff.
I'm guessing it will be more like the Siphoning Strikes morph. One is a toggle and the other is an active ability. It would make sense for radiant to still be a toggle and inner to be the active. Maybe they will get rid of the magicka +5 boost and make it add major sorcery instead. That might be nice.
^This.
It is the only way they could change the ability and it still make a bit of sense.
Edit* I'm so sick of refreshing 15-20 second buffs, personally. This game has more buff refreshing than any MMO I have played in 19 years.Edited by Xeniph on February 3, 2016 5:39PMStamina/ Magicka
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✭Just that morph? Radiant would be a pain unless it was of a reasonably long duration, less expensive, and could be re-cast without dismounting or leaving stealth. But if so, it would be fun to have a slot back.
Someone who actually had been at the meeting and has transcribed it would be able to recount exactly what was said. I only heard 2nd hand last night....so I have no idea if it's only one morph or the base skill.Guild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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Or they could just leave well enough alone and not do something nobody asked for.ScruffyWhiskers wrote: »eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »I use Radiant Magelight personally. Does this mean I will have to constantly cast it just to get the benefit of it? I would rather it take up two slots than to have to constantly cast yet another buff.
I'm guessing it will be more like the Siphoning Strikes morph. One is a toggle and the other is an active ability. It would make sense for radiant to still be a toggle and inner to be the active. Maybe they will get rid of the magicka +5 boost and make it add major sorcery instead. That might be nice.
^This.
It is the only way they could change the ability and it still make a bit of sense.
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asneakybanana✭✭✭✭✭So last night supposedly, there was another guild summit. Out of that meeting came word that ZOS was changing Innerlight from a toggle to an active ability. Anybody hear anything about this? Discuss.....
Edit: Oh I forgot, DK inferno skill is also on the new "no toggle" list....
@ZOS_GinaBruno @Wrobel @ZOS_JessicaFolsom can u enlighten us?
They will be changed to something like camo hunter where you get the crit no matter what and then have to cast it for the bonus. So basically inferno will become a dot like any other dot only with the slight benefit of giving major prophecy while slotted. It seems like zos are doing away with toggles all together next patch afaik. Only skills that will likely remain is siphoning strikes, and bound armor although I haven't heard anything about bound armor.Asneakybanana AD DK Former emperor of Chrysamere and Chillrend. World first hardmode Hel'ra and Quake con winner (Alliance rank 25)Sweat Squad
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✭✭✭✭Nice, I have a slot for blood altar now that I don't need two slots for inner light.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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✭asneakybanana wrote: »They will be changed to something like camo hunter where you get the crit no matter what and then have to cast it for the bonus. So basically inferno will become a dot like any other dot only with the slight benefit of giving major prophecy while slotted. It seems like zos are doing away with toggles all together next patch afaik. Only skills that will likely remain is siphoning strikes, and bound armor although I haven't heard anything about bound armor.
They need to be careful with such a change, but if they do it right it might be a very good change.
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✭If it's no longer a toggle then it can be used to empower an attack. Like an ultimate =D. They should ditch entropy and make inner light give major sorcery and the crit at the same time. This way we can buff spell damage without needing to attack something first.
Only thing that sucks is you can no longer use it to permanenetly up your max magicka. This is probably the source of most complaints.Bosmer Stamina NB
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Interesting, yea I got the feeling that they were thinking of moving away from toggles entirely too.asneakybanana wrote: »So last night supposedly, there was another guild summit. Out of that meeting came word that ZOS was changing Innerlight from a toggle to an active ability. Anybody hear anything about this? Discuss.....
Edit: Oh I forgot, DK inferno skill is also on the new "no toggle" list....
@ZOS_GinaBruno @Wrobel @ZOS_JessicaFolsom can u enlighten us?
They will be changed to something like camo hunter where you get the crit no matter what and then have to cast it for the bonus. So basically inferno will become a dot like any other dot only with the slight benefit of giving major prophecy while slotted. It seems like zos are doing away with toggles all together next patch afaik. Only skills that will likely remain is siphoning strikes, and bound armor although I haven't heard anything about bound armor.
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ScruffyWhiskers✭✭✭✭✭catalyst10e wrote: »So if it's not a toggle, would this mean Might of the Guild is going to be procted a lot more often?
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✭✭asneakybanana wrote: »So last night supposedly, there was another guild summit. Out of that meeting came word that ZOS was changing Innerlight from a toggle to an active ability. Anybody hear anything about this? Discuss.....
Edit: Oh I forgot, DK inferno skill is also on the new "no toggle" list....
@ZOS_GinaBruno @Wrobel @ZOS_JessicaFolsom can u enlighten us?
They will be changed to something like camo hunter where you get the crit no matter what and then have to cast it for the bonus. So basically inferno will become a dot like any other dot only with the slight benefit of giving major prophecy while slotted. It seems like zos are doing away with toggles all together next patch afaik. Only skills that will likely remain is siphoning strikes, and bound armor although I haven't heard anything about bound armor.
They'll have to increase DOT damage in that case.Profanity filter is a crime against the freedom of speech. Also gags. -
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Wait...so how does that effect pets? Are they all going to have a duration now??asneakybanana wrote: »So last night supposedly, there was another guild summit. Out of that meeting came word that ZOS was changing Innerlight from a toggle to an active ability. Anybody hear anything about this? Discuss.....
Edit: Oh I forgot, DK inferno skill is also on the new "no toggle" list....
@ZOS_GinaBruno @Wrobel @ZOS_JessicaFolsom can u enlighten us?
They will be changed to something like camo hunter where you get the crit no matter what and then have to cast it for the bonus. So basically inferno will become a dot like any other dot only with the slight benefit of giving major prophecy while slotted. It seems like zos are doing away with toggles all together next patch afaik. Only skills that will likely remain is siphoning strikes, and bound armor although I haven't heard anything about bound armor.
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✭✭✭✭✭A lot of people have criticized ZoS for its reliance on toggles and scorned Sorcerer builds such as the Togglemaster.
Radiant magelight is the only current toggle skill in the game that I would want taken up 2 slots because that is the only toggle skill I need 24-7 uptime on.
All the others, Inner light, Inferno, Bound Aegis, Pets, etc., I would rather not take up 2 skills on my bar.Edited by Joy_Division on February 3, 2016 6:32PMIt's sad the update ZOS devotes to performance improvements has degraded Cyrodiil to lows not seen since the Infamous "Lighting Patch"" of June 2014. -
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