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No Balance at all on every aspect.
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I've created new char on EU server to test pvp lag there. My new char is sorc level 10 problem is ;
Conjured Ward unlocked at Daedric Summoning rank 42
Bolt Escape unlocked at Storm Calling rank 42
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Critical Charge unlocked at Two Handed rank 4
Teleport Strike unlocked at Assasination rank 4
Focused Charge unlocked at Aedric Spear rank 20
Shield Charge unlocked at One Hand and Shield rank 20
@ZOS i ask you, how come a low level sorc can survive in PVP with these skill unlock ranks ?
LEARN TO BALANCE...
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Edited by Julianos on January 20, 2016 1:46AM Conjured Ward unlocked at Daedric Summoning rank 42
Bolt Escape unlocked at Storm Calling rank 42
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Critical Charge unlocked at Two Handed rank 4
Teleport Strike unlocked at Assasination rank 4
Focused Charge unlocked at Aedric Spear rank 20
Shield Charge unlocked at One Hand and Shield rank 20
@ZOS i ask you, how come a low level sorc can survive in PVP with these skill unlock ranks ?
LEARN TO BALANCE...
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Bashing & Slanderous Comments]
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Didgerion✭✭✭✭✭
✭You have to play more strategically ...you can do serious ranged DPS already with your insta-frag skill. Play more defensively and you will survive.
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dem0n1k✭✭✭✭✭
✭What is the answer? Have Conjured Ward unlock @ rank 4 & Crystal fragments @ rank 42? Have Bolt Escape @ rank 4 & Mage Wrath @ rank 42?
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Julianos✭✭✭✭✭What is the answer? Have Conjured Ward unlock @ rank 4 & Crystal fragments @ rank 42? Have Bolt Escape @ rank 4 & Mage Wrath @ rank 42?
no obvious answer is other classes and weapons should get their gap closer at higher ranks like 42avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »You have to play more strategically ...you can do serious ranged DPS already with your insta-frag skill. Play more defensively and you will survive.
I would love to see your strategic gameplay while using light armor without any shield or escape abilitiy while everyone spamming their gap closer on you non stop...Edited by Julianos on January 20, 2016 1:59AM1 -
This makes me wonder... is rolling a sorc worth it in the short-run?I used to be an adventurer like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee...
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MrGigglypants✭✭✭Lol who cares about nonvet it's 8 hours to 50. This is probably the lowest priority for zeni and will never be addressed. Player a few more hours and unlock the skills.3
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Julianos✭✭✭✭✭MrGigglypants wrote: »Lol who cares about nonvet it's 8 hours to 50. This is probably the lowest priority for zeni and will never be addressed. Player a few more hours and unlock the skills.
I dont care too but not everyone choose to grind levels like that some can choose level normally or in cyrodiil.
Especially new players.Edited by Julianos on January 20, 2016 2:18AM0 -
Asmodean✭✭✭Everybody wants 'balance™' in a game, until it's actually achieved.
Then people realise, the game has turned into a homogeneous, boring snooze fest. Where every class has the exact same abilites with different visual fx.
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Obviously I'm not promoting blatant imbalances. But this eternal striving for perfect game balancing (everyone has same stuff, etc) ruins games, imo.spoiler: it never worksEdited by Asmodean on January 20, 2016 2:20AM2 -
Elara_Northwind✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭What is the answer? Have Conjured Ward unlock @ rank 4 & Crystal fragments @ rank 42? Have Bolt Escape @ rank 4 & Mage Wrath @ rank 42?
no obvious answer is other classes and weapons should get their gap closer at higher ranks like 42avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »You have to play more strategically ...you can do serious ranged DPS already with your insta-frag skill. Play more defensively and you will survive.
I would love to see your strategic gameplay while using light armor without any shield or escape abilitiy while everyone spamming their gap closer on you non stop...
Magicka templar wears light armour, has no decent shield and our gap closer has been broken for months
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Didgerion✭✭✭✭✭
✭avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »You have to play more strategically ...you can do serious ranged DPS already with your insta-frag skill. Play more defensively and you will survive.
I would love to see your strategic gameplay while using light armor without any shield or escape abilitiy while everyone spamming their gap closer on you non stop...
As I said play more strategically....if you became a gap closing target then you've already screwed it somewhere in your strategic decisions.
And here are some hints: Stay behind the front line ...stay at range...use natural obstacles to protect yourself from gap closing. Stay on the keep walls or on the towers when possible ..be as unnoticeable as you can - change your positioning often etc.
The unbalance you are talking about starts when sorcs has those abilities you've mentioned.
It is very unbalanced to see a sorc fighting openly a group of players...spamming shield stacking and curse+insta-frag combo...and when the group becomes to big to face it then the sorc just blinks away...that's unbalanced.
The gap closing mini-stun bug will be fixed in the future...if that bug is bothering you then just be patient and hope for the best solution.1 -
Julianos✭✭✭✭✭What is the answer? Have Conjured Ward unlock @ rank 4 & Crystal fragments @ rank 42? Have Bolt Escape @ rank 4 & Mage Wrath @ rank 42?
no obvious answer is other classes and weapons should get their gap closer at higher ranks like 42avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »You have to play more strategically ...you can do serious ranged DPS already with your insta-frag skill. Play more defensively and you will survive.
I would love to see your strategic gameplay while using light armor without any shield or escape abilitiy while everyone spamming their gap closer on you non stop...
Magicka templar wears light armour, has no decent shield and our gap closer has been broken for months
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Julianos✭✭✭✭✭avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »You have to play more strategically ...you can do serious ranged DPS already with your insta-frag skill. Play more defensively and you will survive.
I would love to see your strategic gameplay while using light armor without any shield or escape abilitiy while everyone spamming their gap closer on you non stop...
As I said play more strategically....if you became a gap closing target then you've already screwed it somewhere in your strategic decisions.
And here are some hints: Stay behind the front line ...stay at range...use natural obstacles to protect yourself from gap closing. Stay on the keep walls or on the towers when possible ..be as unnoticeable as you can - change your positioning often etc.
The unbalance you are talking about starts when sorcs has those abilities you've mentioned.
It is very unbalanced to see a sorc fighting openly a group of players...spamming shield stacking and curse+insta-frag combo...and when the group becomes to big to face it then the sorc just blinks away...that's unbalanced.
The gap closing mini-stun bug will be fixed in the future...if that bug is bothering you then just be patient and hope for the best solution.
lol... what about 1v1 ? also your posts are off topic im talking about low level pvpEdited by Julianos on January 20, 2016 2:27AM0 -
MrGigglypants✭✭✭MrGigglypants wrote: »Lol who cares about nonvet it's 8 hours to 50. This is probably the lowest priority for zeni and will never be addressed. Player a few more hours and unlock the skills.
I dont care too but not everyone choose to grind levels like that some can choose level normally or in cyrodiil.
Especially new players.
That's fine, but it's not bk you can't have you're way just because you don't like something doesn't mean devs should dedicate what would hundreds if not thousands of hours on something that's really a non issue in the longterm. Every class has its advantages and disadvantages people need to live with most of them.0 -
Elara_Northwind✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭What is the answer? Have Conjured Ward unlock @ rank 4 & Crystal fragments @ rank 42? Have Bolt Escape @ rank 4 & Mage Wrath @ rank 42?
no obvious answer is other classes and weapons should get their gap closer at higher ranks like 42avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »You have to play more strategically ...you can do serious ranged DPS already with your insta-frag skill. Play more defensively and you will survive.
I would love to see your strategic gameplay while using light armor without any shield or escape abilitiy while everyone spamming their gap closer on you non stop...
Magicka templar wears light armour, has no decent shield and our gap closer has been broken for months
At least you have heals
That is true, but if you are speaking about when "everyone is spamming their gap closer" templars cannot escape easily, even at vet16! They must find other ways to survive, and healing doesn't help much in this kind of situation, so I don't think waiting a few levels for bolt escape and a huge damage shield is really much of a problem in the scheme of things... And I have vet16 sorcerer and vet16 templar, so I am fully aware of how much easier sorcerers have it when it comes to escaping an awkward situation
Edited by Elara_Northwind on January 20, 2016 12:56PMSorcerer, Templar, Wolf Collector, Housing Addict!
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✭avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »You have to play more strategically ...you can do serious ranged DPS already with your insta-frag skill. Play more defensively and you will survive.
Agreed. You'll have Lightning Ward, and later Bound Armor. Resto is a common back bar for Sorc to just heal through it. The damage in non-Vet is even lower than Vet, so use the other options, or just wait a bit in PVP if you don't think you can find a way to survive against gap closers.0 -
Julianos✭✭✭✭✭MrGigglypants wrote: »MrGigglypants wrote: »Lol who cares about nonvet it's 8 hours to 50. This is probably the lowest priority for zeni and will never be addressed. Player a few more hours and unlock the skills.
I dont care too but not everyone choose to grind levels like that some can choose level normally or in cyrodiil.
Especially new players.
That's fine, but it's not bk you can't have you're way just because you don't like something doesn't mean devs should dedicate what would hundreds if not thousands of hours on something that's really a non issue in the longterm. Every class has its advantages and disadvantages people need to live with most of them.
people can live with them if they PVE but in PVP you cant live with them and thats the point.0 -
Julianos✭✭✭✭✭Everybody wants 'balance™' in a game, until it's actually achieved.
Then people realise, the game has turned into a homogeneous, boring snooze fest. Where every class has the exact same abilites with different visual fx.
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Obviously I'm not promoting blatant imbalances. But this eternal striving for perfect game balancing (everyone has same stuff, etc) ruins games, imo.spoiler: it never works
I dont want that cant you read english ? I just want counter skills unlocks at same ranks.0 -
Steel_Brightblade✭✭✭✭I keep saying, you guys want perfectly balanced pvp lose all armour class skills and weapons, be given a stick on entering Cyrodil and just have normal attack and block. Tadah! Perfectly balanced pvp! Would you all be happy with this? As a side bonus this would mean no more whining causing nerfs that wreck the pve game.1
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Darkonflare15✭✭✭✭✭Everybody wants 'balance™' in a game, until it's actually achieved.
Then people realise, the game has turned into a homogeneous, boring snooze fest. Where every class has the exact same abilites with different visual fx.
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Obviously I'm not promoting blatant imbalances. But this eternal striving for perfect game balancing (everyone has same stuff, etc) ruins games, imo.spoiler: it never works
This true. When a game achieves balance it becomes boring. My idea is to add more choices and counter choices this way there should be a counter for everything so not one thing is too powerful.1 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Steel_Brightblade wrote: »I keep saying, you guys want perfectly balanced pvp lose all armour class skills and weapons, be given a stick on entering Cyrodil and just have normal attack and block. Tadah! Perfectly balanced pvp! Would you all be happy with this? As a side bonus this would mean no more whining causing nerfs that wreck the pve game.
I gave you an awesome for this - you are so right and your solution is perfect balancing - lol.0 -
Didgerion✭✭✭✭✭
✭avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »You have to play more strategically ...you can do serious ranged DPS already with your insta-frag skill. Play more defensively and you will survive.
I would love to see your strategic gameplay while using light armor without any shield or escape abilitiy while everyone spamming their gap closer on you non stop...
As I said play more strategically....if you became a gap closing target then you've already screwed it somewhere in your strategic decisions.
And here are some hints: Stay behind the front line ...stay at range...use natural obstacles to protect yourself from gap closing. Stay on the keep walls or on the towers when possible ..be as unnoticeable as you can - change your positioning often etc.
The unbalance you are talking about starts when sorcs has those abilities you've mentioned.
It is very unbalanced to see a sorc fighting openly a group of players...spamming shield stacking and curse+insta-frag combo...and when the group becomes to big to face it then the sorc just blinks away...that's unbalanced.
The gap closing mini-stun bug will be fixed in the future...if that bug is bothering you then just be patient and hope for the best solution.
lol... what about 1v1 ? also your posts are off topic im talking about low level pvp
1v1?.....Looks like you need more PVP experience if you die because of gap closing spam in 1v1 fights. Just be patient you'll become stronger in time...you'll figure out that there are good combos without using blink and shields.
And I'm on topic, my advise is as good for low level pvp as is for high level ones....those two abilities won't make you a winner there are so much more factors that should be taken into consideration.
And yes level 10 is in a great disadvantage skills wise, gear wise, passive abilities wise, champion points wise an other factors wise.
This is an mmorpg..the whole idea of an mmorpg is that you become stronger more you play.0 -
Julianos✭✭✭✭✭avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »You have to play more strategically ...you can do serious ranged DPS already with your insta-frag skill. Play more defensively and you will survive.
I would love to see your strategic gameplay while using light armor without any shield or escape abilitiy while everyone spamming their gap closer on you non stop...
As I said play more strategically....if you became a gap closing target then you've already screwed it somewhere in your strategic decisions.
And here are some hints: Stay behind the front line ...stay at range...use natural obstacles to protect yourself from gap closing. Stay on the keep walls or on the towers when possible ..be as unnoticeable as you can - change your positioning often etc.
The unbalance you are talking about starts when sorcs has those abilities you've mentioned.
It is very unbalanced to see a sorc fighting openly a group of players...spamming shield stacking and curse+insta-frag combo...and when the group becomes to big to face it then the sorc just blinks away...that's unbalanced.
The gap closing mini-stun bug will be fixed in the future...if that bug is bothering you then just be patient and hope for the best solution.
lol... what about 1v1 ? also your posts are off topic im talking about low level pvp
1v1?.....Looks like you need more PVP experience if you die because of gap closing spam in 1v1 fights. Just be patient you'll become stronger in time...you'll figure out that there are good combos without using blink and shields.
And I'm on topic, my advise is as good for low level pvp as is for high level ones....those two abilities won't make you a winner there are so much more factors that should be taken into consideration.
And yes level 10 is in a great disadvantage skills wise, gear wise, passive abilities wise, champion points wise an other factors wise.
This is an mmorpg..the whole idea of an mmorpg is that you become stronger more you play.
lol i already have v16 sorc playing since beta on NA i think you should learn to read...
i think you have no idea about sorc and pvp nowadays sorc is nothing without those abilities an avarage stamina based player will crush you no matter how smart you play shield and bolt escape is everything for sorc we dont have armor we dont have enough stamina to roll dodge, break free , block etc etc....Edited by Julianos on January 20, 2016 7:54AM0 -
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✭So you went to BwB hoping to smash some newbs, now you complain you need to unlock skills first? Too bad.Georgion - Bosmer/Templar - PC/EU1 -
Tankqull✭✭✭✭✭
✭What is the answer? Have Conjured Ward unlock @ rank 4 & Crystal fragments @ rank 42? Have Bolt Escape @ rank 4 & Mage Wrath @ rank 42?
no obvious answer is other classes and weapons should get their gap closer at higher ranks like 42avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »You have to play more strategically ...you can do serious ranged DPS already with your insta-frag skill. Play more defensively and you will survive.
I would love to see your strategic gameplay while using light armor without any shield or escape abilitiy while everyone spamming their gap closer on you non stop...
Magicka templar wears light armour, has no decent shield and our gap closer has been broken for months
Magica Temps have a heal from Lvl2 low lvl sorcs (<42) have nothing...spelling and grammar errors are free to be abused
Sallington wrote: »Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"0 -
Sausage✭✭✭✭✭
✭This is better to be a troll post. Go out, do something else than ESO.Edited by Sausage on January 20, 2016 8:09AM1 -
Didgerion✭✭✭✭✭
✭avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »You have to play more strategically ...you can do serious ranged DPS already with your insta-frag skill. Play more defensively and you will survive.
I would love to see your strategic gameplay while using light armor without any shield or escape abilitiy while everyone spamming their gap closer on you non stop...
As I said play more strategically....if you became a gap closing target then you've already screwed it somewhere in your strategic decisions.
And here are some hints: Stay behind the front line ...stay at range...use natural obstacles to protect yourself from gap closing. Stay on the keep walls or on the towers when possible ..be as unnoticeable as you can - change your positioning often etc.
The unbalance you are talking about starts when sorcs has those abilities you've mentioned.
It is very unbalanced to see a sorc fighting openly a group of players...spamming shield stacking and curse+insta-frag combo...and when the group becomes to big to face it then the sorc just blinks away...that's unbalanced.
The gap closing mini-stun bug will be fixed in the future...if that bug is bothering you then just be patient and hope for the best solution.
lol... what about 1v1 ? also your posts are off topic im talking about low level pvp
1v1?.....Looks like you need more PVP experience if you die because of gap closing spam in 1v1 fights. Just be patient you'll become stronger in time...you'll figure out that there are good combos without using blink and shields.
And I'm on topic, my advise is as good for low level pvp as is for high level ones....those two abilities won't make you a winner there are so much more factors that should be taken into consideration.
And yes level 10 is in a great disadvantage skills wise, gear wise, passive abilities wise, champion points wise an other factors wise.
This is an mmorpg..the whole idea of an mmorpg is that you become stronger more you play.
lol i already have v16 sorc playing since beta on NA i think you should learn to read...
i think you have no idea about sorc and pvp nowadays sorc is nothing without those abilities an avarage stamina based player will crush you no matter how smart you play shield and bolt escape is everything for sorc we dont have armor we dont have enough stamina to roll dodge, break free , block etc etc....
I know a lot about sorcs. I have a VR1 Mag sorc and a VR16 stam sorc.
I play my stam sorc mostly and I use no shields nor blinks.
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✭✭✭✭✭I found encase really helpful in non-vet to keep wrecking blowers at bay. You should be able to pick up healing ward relatively fast as well (lvl 20 resto I think). At lvl 14 resto you can get blessing of protection which isn't a bad heal just to get you by.
There's definitely options, but just don't expect to use the same strategy as an end game sorcerer.0 -
Julianos✭✭✭✭✭avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »avid_mdb16_ESO wrote: »You have to play more strategically ...you can do serious ranged DPS already with your insta-frag skill. Play more defensively and you will survive.
I would love to see your strategic gameplay while using light armor without any shield or escape abilitiy while everyone spamming their gap closer on you non stop...
As I said play more strategically....if you became a gap closing target then you've already screwed it somewhere in your strategic decisions.
And here are some hints: Stay behind the front line ...stay at range...use natural obstacles to protect yourself from gap closing. Stay on the keep walls or on the towers when possible ..be as unnoticeable as you can - change your positioning often etc.
The unbalance you are talking about starts when sorcs has those abilities you've mentioned.
It is very unbalanced to see a sorc fighting openly a group of players...spamming shield stacking and curse+insta-frag combo...and when the group becomes to big to face it then the sorc just blinks away...that's unbalanced.
The gap closing mini-stun bug will be fixed in the future...if that bug is bothering you then just be patient and hope for the best solution.
lol... what about 1v1 ? also your posts are off topic im talking about low level pvp
1v1?.....Looks like you need more PVP experience if you die because of gap closing spam in 1v1 fights. Just be patient you'll become stronger in time...you'll figure out that there are good combos without using blink and shields.
And I'm on topic, my advise is as good for low level pvp as is for high level ones....those two abilities won't make you a winner there are so much more factors that should be taken into consideration.
And yes level 10 is in a great disadvantage skills wise, gear wise, passive abilities wise, champion points wise an other factors wise.
This is an mmorpg..the whole idea of an mmorpg is that you become stronger more you play.
lol i already have v16 sorc playing since beta on NA i think you should learn to read...
i think you have no idea about sorc and pvp nowadays sorc is nothing without those abilities an avarage stamina based player will crush you no matter how smart you play shield and bolt escape is everything for sorc we dont have armor we dont have enough stamina to roll dodge, break free , block etc etc....
I know a lot about sorcs. I have a VR1 Mag sorc and a VR16 stam sorc.
I play my stam sorc mostly and I use no shields nor blinks.
lol why would anyone use shield or bolt escape with stam sorc. Shield scales with magicka and bolt escape too expansive for stam sorc my post obviously for magicka sorc...0
