ZOS, this is not a free cell phone game!!

sirrmattus

Give us a better way to improve our mounts. It is so ridiculous we have to wait 20 hours to upgrade. or PTW. really $1 per upgrade? $180 for full horse? There are 2080 hours in a work year, 2400 hours required to fully upgrade a mount. THIS IS NONSENSE!!

If you can't do this than at least make the cost of horse upgrades comparable to other crown store items.

Buffler

Hahahaha

Stoshe160

Well, I kinda love mount upgrade system.
I'm using a mount to get from point A to point B, so it doesn't have to be super fast.
I'm investing more in carrying capacity cuz I'm a greedy ***

MrDerrikk

If you don't just grind your char to VR16 as fast as possible and play the game the way they designed you to, then this wouldn't be nearly as much of a problem.

sirrmattus

MrDerrikk wrote: »

If you don't just grind your char to VR16 as fast as possible and play the game the way they designed you to, then this wouldn't be nearly as much of a problem.

why does everyone suggest that everyone play the same way, and take a year to get to v16?

Gidorick

At least we don't have daily log in "gifts"

Wait... crafting hirelings are kind of that.

nevermind.

Mac10murda

I would love to be able to grind to v16 but just been doing quest and just racking in the gold

Forestd16b14_ESO

Or maybe just upgrade it when you have to feed your horse. Just saying.

Ruben

You don't need to play for 20 hours to feed again. Also, horses are much better now than they were at launch.

clayandaudrey_ESO

It would really be nice if when we log in we have fully upgraded everything with access to all skills.

JamilaRaj

A better way? That would totally ruin this little P2W gem. Even though it might not be the most profitable P2W element in the game, its design is flawless, that is how P2W should be done. Anyone can max out riding by in-game means, without paying. It is cheap, even effortless (!), yet no amount of insane grinding will help a non-paying player to be on par with a player who did pay, and those who will not pay anyway will be at least compelled to log in daily (just in case conspicuously "stupid" hireling system was not enough). Brilliant!

myrrrorb14_ESO

You can fully upgrade in the Crown Store in seconds. Or 6 months of training. It takes a while to learn how to pilot a horse efficiently.

Just saying.

sirrmattus

clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »

It would really be nice if when we log in we have fully upgraded everything with access to all skills.

Really why are you trolling?
We should be able to spend 50k gold and have an upgraded horse.

DRXHarbinger

totally, it's stupid how my NB can run faster than my horse, yet my sorc is stupid the game cannot process the animations fast enough, it should just triple in price and give a cool down to get it back to 250 gold per upgrade, so next one is 750 one after than is 2200, one after that is 7k and so on and so forth, fair and easy.

Sallington

I'd be fine with the price doubling for each point, and then resetting every 20 hours.

Decayed_Inside

Why do people spew that regurgitated statement "If you don't grind to VR16 asap and play as intended blah blah blah" You know you sound like a lonely housewife nagging right? Get off people's back they play how they want.

Buffler

People have meltdowns over the most insane things

sirrmattus

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Or maybe just upgrade it when you have to feed your horse. Just saying.

What do you mean?

Stonesthrow

So it takes a half a year (or less if you a crazy diligent) to max a character'd riding skill, it should. I like the training system as is, way better than originally training individual mounts for different uses. It should take some time, and a crappy player in PvP on a fast horse is still a crappy player so PTW seems a stretch.

Couple tips… Make sure to train your other characters everyday, if you have any, even while they just sitting in a bank holding your extra goodies. You never know when you will want to switch and start leveling them. The newbie islands at 60 speed is an extra special treat.

Don't train capacity first if you may non-vet PvP with them unless you plan on never using them for anything but storage or at least not for a few months.

Don't accidentally purchase a riding lesson from the crown store on a character that doesn't need it. They can not be traded once purchased unlike XP scrolls and other items that also say BOUND. Came in a package deal, wasn't thinking… now sitting in junk tab on 60/60/60 main.

@ZOS_GinaBruno … any chance of finding out if there are any plans for unbinding riding scrolls from a specific character someday? I get account binding, but crown store CHARACTER binding on an item seems odd. Most items are not.

I mean.. say you go to buy a bag slot, it checks to see if you can and then lets you buy it if you haven't maxed. It stops you if you are maxed. Why let someone buy a riding lesson (as an actual useable item) if they are maxed and then not let them trade it to another character in their account after they realize they are screwed?

@ZOS_GinaBruno - Gratz on the news it's a girl!

KanedaSyndrome

sirrmattus wrote: »

Give us a better way to improve our mounts. It is so ridiculous we have to wait 20 hours to upgrade. or PTW. really $1 per upgrade? $180 for full horse? There are 2080 hours in a work year, 2400 hours required to fully upgrade a mount. THIS IS NONSENSE!!

If you can't do this than at least make the cost of horse upgrades comparable to other crown store items.

"Buhuu.. I have to be patient " <--- All I got from the the above quoted.

ironhorse1010ub17_ESO

sirrmattus wrote: »

Give us a better way to improve our mounts. It is so ridiculous we have to wait 20 hours to upgrade. or PTW. really $1 per upgrade? $180 for full horse? There are 2080 hours in a work year, 2400 hours required to fully upgrade a mount. THIS IS NONSENSE!!

If you can't do this than at least make the cost of horse upgrades comparable to other crown store items.

Really you consider horse upgrades PTW? Your a cheap *** LOL

KanedaSyndrome

sirrmattus wrote: »

clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »

It would really be nice if when we log in we have fully upgraded everything with access to all skills.

Really why are you trolling?
We should be able to spend 50k gold and have an upgraded horse.

It's not the horse you upgrade, it's your skill riding a horse, which takes time to learn.

MrDerrikk

Decayed_Inside wrote: »

Why do people spew that regurgitated statement "If you don't grind to VR16 asap and play as intended blah blah blah" You know you sound like a lonely housewife nagging right? Get off people's back they play how they want.

Because it's play how you want, but you will need to make certain sacrifices if you play certain ways. Rushing through means you don't have skyshards, titles, horse upgrades etc, however taking your time to get all these things sacrifices a lot of your time on that one char.

sirrmattus

I can't believe some of you people are ok with a full horse upgrade taking 2400 hours or $180

sirrmattus

ironhorse1010ub17_ESO wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

Give us a better way to improve our mounts. It is so ridiculous we have to wait 20 hours to upgrade. or PTW. really $1 per upgrade? $180 for full horse? There are 2080 hours in a work year, 2400 hours required to fully upgrade a mount. THIS IS NONSENSE!!

If you can't do this than at least make the cost of horse upgrades comparable to other crown store items.

Really you consider horse upgrades PTW? Your a cheap *** LOL

$180 isn't a spit in the bucket for me bud.

Decayed_Inside

I rush through and have everything. See my 7 characters for reference. I lose out on nothing

Islyn

Ruben wrote: »

You don't need to play for 20 hours to feed again. Also, horses are much better now than they were at launch.

hells yes, it was PER HORSE EVERYTHING.

LOL. Not per char.

We all had a pack horse and a speed horse were were slowly adding stam to for PVP.

Y'all don't know how good you have it!

Xendyn

Maybe a passive or something to upgrade to training twice a day?

Buffler

sirrmattus wrote: »

I can't believe some of you people are ok with a full horse upgrade taking 2400 hours or $180

Its just a bloody horse upgrade, only time I really use it is in pvp

Islyn

Decayed_Inside wrote: »

I rush through and have everything. See my 7 characters for reference. I lose out on nothing so save it for your significant other nags

What a weird comment....

Islyn

ironhorse1010ub17_ESO wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

Give us a better way to improve our mounts. It is so ridiculous we have to wait 20 hours to upgrade. or PTW. really $1 per upgrade? $180 for full horse? There are 2080 hours in a work year, 2400 hours required to fully upgrade a mount. THIS IS NONSENSE!!

If you can't do this than at least make the cost of horse upgrades comparable to other crown store items.

Really you consider horse upgrades PTW? Your a cheap *** LOL

Actually in PVP they could be considered P2W (no matter if cheap or not, and I assure you, for some of us with kids and mortgages $180 *is* more than a drop in a bucket and even if not, it is still a LOT of real life cash to upgrade a pretend horse).

Oh edited to add: You are=you're