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Axeploit or working as intended (Fixed)

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  • NTclaymore
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    Okay what? Theres so much "As f***" n random mid-sentence rant i cant get what the problem is. Axes are broken? how? to big chance to prox or too low? i dont get it.. sorry..
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  • Jaybe_Mawfaka
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    NTclaymore wrote: »
    Okay what? Theres so much "As f***" n random mid-sentence rant i cant get what the problem is. Axes are broken? how? to big chance to prox or too low? i dont get it.. sorry..

    What actually do you not understand? Bleed chance on 2h axe is 100% instead of 16% in the tooltip, pretty obvious

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  • Anzriel
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    Yeah, it's been bugged for a while. The bleed always procs. It's more than a little sad it hasn't been fixed yet... even fixed I think it'll be solid though.
  • IXxIronWolfxXI
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    Everyone PLEASE abuse this bug. No Im not being sarcastic, when something is abused it's put on the priority list and fixed. Make a 2H axe and the bleed will proc every time. Go go go.
  • Spottswoode
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    It's worked that way since beta. (I know, because I used a battleaxe from beta to about 4 months ago for that very reason.) Obviously it doesn't reflect the tooltip, but it HAS always worked that way.
    Edited by Spottswoode on December 23, 2015 1:52AM
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  • Spearshard
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    Because the bleed damage in this game is soooo overpowered.
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    Ive crit bleed dotted people for 3.6k, its pretty strong. What happens is 2h axe overwrites itself all the time, so if you keep dmging a player the bleed will never procc, but if you stop, it has a 100% chance to procc, if you only atk him once, 100% chace to procc, it even works if you fire off a snipe, then switch to 2h axe before arrow hits, he starts bleeding too, same with the other passives (20% AI and 5% Dmgincr)

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    Edited by Jaybe_Mawfaka on June 12, 2016 9:31AM
  • ValkynSketha
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    There is another thing i found strange when i was leveling my stemplar, that when i am using two handed axe and cast reflective light to pull mobs the elemental damage over time from reflective light is much more than using two handed sword or maul.
  • UltimaJoe777
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    Everyone PLEASE abuse this bug. No Im not being sarcastic, when something is abused it's put on the priority list and fixed. Make a 2H axe and the bleed will proc every time. Go go go.

    If that were true DKs and NBs scaling keep walls would be fixed by now...
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  • Spottswoode
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    It's worked that way since beta. (I know, because I used a battleaxe from beta to about 4 months ago for that very reason.) Obviously it doesn't reflect the tooltip, but it HAS always worked that way.

    Then it's just too disrespectful to the players.. no words

    Uh..no. They just recently changed the tool tip and apparently haven't actually updated it. Honestly, I don't think they should.
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  • Alcast
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    Let me tell you a story...

    ZOS knew in 1.6+ Imperial City..that the old Axe bleed was bugged, it was 100% chance to apply but very low damage.....however, if you permanetly did Light Attacks or smth taht procs bleed it actually NEVER procced because the bleed timer begun from 0 and first proc comes after 2s..

    so now...INSTEAD of fixing the issue with the reseting timer....(I am certain that they could not find out how) they just made the proc chance lower.....but the bug with resetting is still there, just less noticable as it is a lower proc chance....however, people still noticed it because 2H is still 100% apply chance L=OL
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    Edited by Jaybe_Mawfaka on June 12, 2016 9:31AM
  • Alcast
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    I will keep abusing it as hell till they will remove it, because screw it, little things like this just showing one more time how do they "care" about their community :neutral: .

    Take flight into a grp and see the bleed ticks run amok xD
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    Edited by Jaybe_Mawfaka on June 12, 2016 9:31AM
  • Anzriel
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    Alcast wrote: »
    I will keep abusing it as hell till they will remove it, because screw it, little things like this just showing one more time how do they "care" about their community :neutral: .

    Take flight into a grp and see the bleed ticks run amok xD

    lmao I have to try that. I didn't realize it'd proc off of take flight too. Hahaha
  • Mike0987
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    Thats no different than the pickpocket 95% chance err... should I say 20%...
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Thanks for the report, guys. The tooltip is the correct value, and should only be applying a bleed 16% of the time. For what it's worth, this is not an exploit, and actually causes 2H axes to be weaker. Every time you light attack, the bleed refreshes itself so it never actually does any bleed damage. Abusing this bug will not give you an advantage in combat (it's actually a disadvantage) and abusing the bug won't get it fixed any faster. That said, we will be fixing it in a future patch - hopefully the next incremental.

    In the future, if you feel you've found an exploit, please message a staff member privately rather than posting it publicly. While we understand that mistakes happen if you don't know what to do, purposely publishing exploits could get your forum account actioned against. Thanks!
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  • tangy.citrus
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    Thanks gina, i'd really love to see the dw axes getting fixed from reapplying itself while a bleed is active. It can ruin pve dps if your axe bleeds are proccing too often. Cant wait for the next patch.
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  • Alcast
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    Anzriel wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    I will keep abusing it as hell till they will remove it, because screw it, little things like this just showing one more time how do they "care" about their community :neutral: .

    Take flight into a grp and see the bleed ticks run amok xD

    lmao I have to try that. I didn't realize it'd proc off of take flight too. Hahaha

    check at the end of the clip when I leap into the DC zerg that rapes me...check the recount window top right side :)
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  • Paulington
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    Thanks for the report, guys. The tooltip is the correct value, and should only be applying a bleed 16% of the time. For what it's worth, this is not an exploit, and actually causes 2H axes to be weaker. Every time you light attack, the bleed refreshes itself so it never actually does any bleed damage. Abusing this bug will not give you an advantage in combat (it's actually a disadvantage) and abusing the bug won't get it fixed any faster. That said, we will be fixing it in a future patch - hopefully the next incremental.

    In the future, if you feel you've found an exploit, please message a staff member privately rather than posting it publicly. While we understand that mistakes happen if you don't know what to do, purposely publishing exploits could get your forum account actioned against. Thanks!

    So @ZOS_GinaBruno, is it possible to get Elemental Ring looked into for this reason as well? If you spam it like in every AoE situation the DoT applies but never ticks due to it constantly being refreshed and makes it a worse choice than Pulsar. It's basically the same issue.
  • CP5
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    I find it odd they didn't do the same thing they did for ww's bleeds. That was a problem people noticed (light attacks refreshing the 100% to proc dot) but they changed it, why wasn't that fix used for other dots?
  • Malmai
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    Zenimax and never ending struggle with broken passives...
  • RoyJade
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    If only the first tick was applied the second you use the light attack, it shouldn't be a problem anymore. Same for every dots.
    That's also mean they have to lower the damage of some burst-ability to compensate the damage of the first tick, I'm especially thinking about Dawnbreaker.
  • Jaybe_Mawfaka
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    Thanks for the report, guys. The tooltip is the correct value, and should only be applying a bleed 16% of the time. For what it's worth, this is not an exploit, and actually causes 2H axes to be weaker. Every time you light attack, the bleed refreshes itself so it never actually does any bleed damage. Abusing this bug will not give you an advantage in combat (it's actually a disadvantage) and abusing the bug won't get it fixed any faster. That said, we will be fixing it in a future patch - hopefully the next incremental.

    In the future, if you feel you've found an exploit, please message a staff member privately rather than posting it publicly. While we understand that mistakes happen if you don't know what to do, purposely publishing exploits could get your forum account actioned against. Thanks!

    All right, great. Thanks for respond :)
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    You can abuse it with a 2h axe on your buff bar though. 1 attack to applie it and get a guaranteed proc. Then switch to anything else.
    Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on December 24, 2015 6:34PM
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