Crown Gains Extra AP?

Molag_Crow

Does the leader of a group gain more AP than the rest of the group?

DeanTheCat

The group leader doesn't gain more AP than anyone else in the group, but is generally responsible for the well-being of the group in question. It's quite a lot of work that often goes unrecognized by the group members.

Jura23

DeanTheCat wrote: »

The group leader doesn't gain more AP than anyone else in the group, but is generally responsible for the well-being of the group in question. It's quite a lot of work that often goes unrecognized by the group members.

On the other hand, most of crowns arent leading groups for charity. They do it because they enjoy that role.

DeanTheCat

Jura23 wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

The group leader doesn't gain more AP than anyone else in the group, but is generally responsible for the well-being of the group in question. It's quite a lot of work that often goes unrecognized by the group members.

On the other hand, most of crowns arent leading groups for charity. They do it because they enjoy that role.

True. I'm just trying to raise awareness to the fact that leading a group isn't an easy job and we should support group leaders instead of yelling at them whenever anything goes wrong (Even though it may be really their fault). Good leaders are already a rare breed as it is.



Support your favourite group leader today!

Molag_Crow

Hmmmmmmmmm I see.... thanks then

Jitterbug

BRogueNZ

He does seem to

Draxys

Jitterbug wrote: »

#businessandstuff

Turelus

DeanTheCat wrote: »

The group leader doesn't gain more AP than anyone else in the group, but is generally responsible for the well-being of the group in question. It's quite a lot of work that often goes unrecognized by the group members.

Especially by these people.

• The 1vX Snowflake - No matter how many times you say the group should travel together, they're not included in that.
• The Socialiser - It doesn't matter that you just engaged an enemy raid, this person needs to tell you about their awesome day.
• The Backseat Leader - You really should have done this, and you really should be doing that, this person knows all the superior tactics. They won't lead mind you, they're the first to admit they don't have the knowledge required for that.
• The Debater - Something when wrong! Stop the raid! We have to fix this now! No, no, ignore the scroll they just stole, we have to fix this NOW!
• The AP Wh*re - "Damn that was an intense defence, what we're leaving to protect our scroll keep? Hold I just need to AFK because.... reason!"
• Top Gun - This person is the best player in all of ESO. Don't worry if you didn't know, they'll soon inform you how they just killed 12 guys solo while you defending the flags.
• The Crow - If it's shiny, they have to be the first to touch it. Don't worry about those orders to wait for the group at the well or who will carry the scroll, it's shiny so it must be touched.

Nermy

Turelus wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

The group leader doesn't gain more AP than anyone else in the group, but is generally responsible for the well-being of the group in question. It's quite a lot of work that often goes unrecognized by the group members.

Especially by these people.

• The 1vX Snowflake - No matter how many times you say the group should travel together, they're not included in that.
• The Socialiser - It doesn't matter that you just engaged an enemy raid, this person needs to tell you about their awesome day.
• The Backseat Leader - You really should have done this, and you really should be doing that, this person knows all the superior tactics. They won't lead mind you, they're the first to admit they don't have the knowledge required for that.
• The Debater - Something when wrong! Stop the raid! We have to fix this now! No, no, ignore the scroll they just stole, we have to fix this NOW!
• The AP Wh*re - "Damn that was an intense defence, what we're leaving to protect our scroll keep? Hold I just need to AFK because.... reason!"
• Top Gun - This person is the best player in all of ESO. Don't worry if you didn't know, they'll soon inform you how they just killed 12 guys solo while you defending the flags.
• The Crow - If it's shiny, they have to be the first to touch it. Don't worry about those orders to wait for the group at the well or who will carry the scroll, it's shiny so it must be touched.

The Scout - What are you doing over there? Just scouting *insert keep name*

DeanTheCat

Turelus wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

The group leader doesn't gain more AP than anyone else in the group, but is generally responsible for the well-being of the group in question. It's quite a lot of work that often goes unrecognized by the group members.

Especially by these people.

• The 1vX Snowflake - No matter how many times you say the group should travel together, they're not included in that.
• The Socialiser - It doesn't matter that you just engaged an enemy raid, this person needs to tell you about their awesome day.
• The Backseat Leader - You really should have done this, and you really should be doing that, this person knows all the superior tactics. They won't lead mind you, they're the first to admit they don't have the knowledge required for that.
• The Debater - Something when wrong! Stop the raid! We have to fix this now! No, no, ignore the scroll they just stole, we have to fix this NOW!
• The AP Wh*re - "Damn that was an intense defence, what we're leaving to protect our scroll keep? Hold I just need to AFK because.... reason!"
• Top Gun - This person is the best player in all of ESO. Don't worry if you didn't know, they'll soon inform you how they just killed 12 guys solo while you defending the flags.
• The Crow - If it's shiny, they have to be the first to touch it. Don't worry about those orders to wait for the group at the well or who will carry the scroll, it's shiny so it must be touched.

@Turelus

Awesome Tarvy, just awesome.

... Why do I have a mental image of certain people tied to each of the roles you mentioned?

1vX Snowflake - Kris
Socialiser - Lara
Backseat Leader - Kanoxa
Debater - Nessi
AP fanatic - Biox
Top Gun - Rob/Shaer'delis
Crow - Gilly

frozywozy

CrowsDescend wrote: »

Does the leader of a group gain more AP than the rest of the group?

Most group leaders make alot more APs than the rest of the group for a very simple reason. Especially for sorcs or leaders with a gap closer. Crystalized is the best example I can give you (without denying any of his skills). Anytime he would make a call to push a pack of enemies, he would streak ahead and get the first hits.

As a group leader, you are the one who make the calls and you always have a slight edge in front of your groups to attack enemies first. If on top of that you have alot of burst damage, you will, most of the time, deal the most damage on most enemies, meanwhile gaining the most APs from your group.

RAGUNAnoOne

Jitterbug wrote: »

Best meme I have seen in so long! too bad most people in RL are bosses...

Molag_Crow

I asked because it just seemed like the leaders of groups were mostly always Emperor tbh

DeanTheCat

CrowsDescend wrote: »

I asked because it just seemed like the leaders of groups were mostly always Emperor tbh

That also has to do with them being the last to fall. Because when the group leader dies, the group goes down with him. Less time being dead equates to higher AP gain. Not to mention the innate value of the experience and skills a good leader has gained from months and months of leading.

Molag_Crow

DeanTheCat wrote: »

CrowsDescend wrote: »

I asked because it just seemed like the leaders of groups were mostly always Emperor tbh

That also has to do with them being the last to fall. Because when the group leader dies, the group goes down with him. Less time being dead equates to higher AP gain. Not to mention the innate value of the experience and skills a good leader has gained from months and months of leading.

Yeah I guess so... so there's definitely no hidden buff for extra AP? fair enough then.

maxjapank

CrowsDescend wrote: »

I asked because it just seemed like the leaders of groups were mostly always Emperor tbh

There are leaders who are purposely crowned Emperor by their guild. One way is they will defend a resource from the enemy faction. Then before the Defense tick happens, the players in the group will go out of range of the resource, leaving the leader there by themselves to receive the entire AP tick. Then they will repeat the process.

I'm not saying that all Emperors earn AP this way. But I do know of one who received his Emp title like this. That is one of the reasons they took away the ex-Emp passives.

Molag_Crow

maxjapank wrote: »

CrowsDescend wrote: »

I asked because it just seemed like the leaders of groups were mostly always Emperor tbh

There are leaders who are purposely crowned Emperor by their guild. One way is they will defend a resource from the enemy faction. Then before the Defense tick happens, the players in the group will go out of range of the resource, leaving the leader there by themselves to receive the entire AP tick. Then they will repeat the process.

I'm not saying that all Emperors earn AP this way. But I do know of one who received his Emp title like this. That is one of the reasons they took away the ex-Emp passives.

Whoa, that makes sense actually... seen similar fishy behaviour.

Master_Kas

Turelus wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

The group leader doesn't gain more AP than anyone else in the group, but is generally responsible for the well-being of the group in question. It's quite a lot of work that often goes unrecognized by the group members.

Especially by these people.

• The 1vX Snowflake - No matter how many times you say the group should travel together, they're not included in that.
• The Socialiser - It doesn't matter that you just engaged an enemy raid, this person needs to tell you about their awesome day.
• The Backseat Leader - You really should have done this, and you really should be doing that, this person knows all the superior tactics. They won't lead mind you, they're the first to admit they don't have the knowledge required for that.
• The Debater - Something when wrong! Stop the raid! We have to fix this now! No, no, ignore the scroll they just stole, we have to fix this NOW!
• The AP Wh*re - "Damn that was an intense defence, what we're leaving to protect our scroll keep? Hold I just need to AFK because.... reason!"
• Top Gun - This person is the best player in all of ESO. Don't worry if you didn't know, they'll soon inform you how they just killed 12 guys solo while you defending the flags.
• The Crow - If it's shiny, they have to be the first to touch it. Don't worry about those orders to wait for the group at the well or who will carry the scroll, it's shiny so it must be touched.

@Tower_Of_Shame Lmao I can fit some names into this :


1vX snowflake : Legendary omar ofc

The socializer : Prisma

The AP wh*re: All who stay "afk" for defticks

Top Gun: Me ofcourse, (tough the 12 people I killed was all lowbies/PvEers who was engaging guards

The crow: maylin when seeing nodes/plants

xD

Tower_Of_Shame

Master_Kas wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

The group leader doesn't gain more AP than anyone else in the group, but is generally responsible for the well-being of the group in question. It's quite a lot of work that often goes unrecognized by the group members.

Especially by these people.

• The 1vX Snowflake - No matter how many times you say the group should travel together, they're not included in that.
• The Socialiser - It doesn't matter that you just engaged an enemy raid, this person needs to tell you about their awesome day.
• The Backseat Leader - You really should have done this, and you really should be doing that, this person knows all the superior tactics. They won't lead mind you, they're the first to admit they don't have the knowledge required for that.
• The Debater - Something when wrong! Stop the raid! We have to fix this now! No, no, ignore the scroll they just stole, we have to fix this NOW!
• The AP Wh*re - "Damn that was an intense defence, what we're leaving to protect our scroll keep? Hold I just need to AFK because.... reason!"
• Top Gun - This person is the best player in all of ESO. Don't worry if you didn't know, they'll soon inform you how they just killed 12 guys solo while you defending the flags.
• The Crow - If it's shiny, they have to be the first to touch it. Don't worry about those orders to wait for the group at the well or who will carry the scroll, it's shiny so it must be touched.

@Tower_Of_Shame Lmao I can fit some names into this :


1vX snowflake : Legendary omar ofc

The socializer : Prisma

The AP wh*re: All who stay "afk" for defticks

Top Gun: Me ofcourse, (tough the 12 people I killed was all lowbies/PvEers who was engaging guards

The crow: maylin when seeing nodes/plants

xD

mmmhmmmmmmm That blue carpit yesterday OMG xD that was the Resource of Shame....

when we saw the amount of AP:

Turelus

DeanTheCat wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

The group leader doesn't gain more AP than anyone else in the group, but is generally responsible for the well-being of the group in question. It's quite a lot of work that often goes unrecognized by the group members.

Especially by these people.

• The 1vX Snowflake - No matter how many times you say the group should travel together, they're not included in that.
• The Socialiser - It doesn't matter that you just engaged an enemy raid, this person needs to tell you about their awesome day.
• The Backseat Leader - You really should have done this, and you really should be doing that, this person knows all the superior tactics. They won't lead mind you, they're the first to admit they don't have the knowledge required for that.
• The Debater - Something when wrong! Stop the raid! We have to fix this now! No, no, ignore the scroll they just stole, we have to fix this NOW!
• The AP Wh*re - "Damn that was an intense defence, what we're leaving to protect our scroll keep? Hold I just need to AFK because.... reason!"
• Top Gun - This person is the best player in all of ESO. Don't worry if you didn't know, they'll soon inform you how they just killed 12 guys solo while you defending the flags.
• The Crow - If it's shiny, they have to be the first to touch it. Don't worry about those orders to wait for the group at the well or who will carry the scroll, it's shiny so it must be touched.

@Turelus

Awesome Tarvy, just awesome.

... Why do I have a mental image of certain people tied to each of the roles you mentioned?

1vX Snowflake - Kris
Socialiser - Lara
Backseat Leader - Kanoxa
Debater - Nessi
AP fanatic - Biox
Top Gun - Rob/Shaer'delis
Crow - Gilly

Not actually the way around I was thinking... Rob is most defiantly in the right place though.

PhatGrimReaper

Yes, @Crown does gain more AP

josh.lackey_ESO

CrowsDescend wrote: »

maxjapank wrote: »

CrowsDescend wrote: »

I asked because it just seemed like the leaders of groups were mostly always Emperor tbh

There are leaders who are purposely crowned Emperor by their guild. One way is they will defend a resource from the enemy faction. Then before the Defense tick happens, the players in the group will go out of range of the resource, leaving the leader there by themselves to receive the entire AP tick. Then they will repeat the process.

I'm not saying that all Emperors earn AP this way. But I do know of one who received his Emp title like this. That is one of the reasons they took away the ex-Emp passives.

Whoa, that makes sense actually... seen similar fishy behaviour.

If that group really wants to crown an emperor, they can go a step further and log in on their opposing faction alts that are grouped into the campaign and then die at a resource with the would-be emperor as the sole defender, making sure to tag each kill with at least a light attack.

The system is, in some ways, such a crock that I wonder why guilds don't have "duel" events that are basically an AP laundering scheme similar to the above scenario where they just wipe each in turn at alternative resources for the sole purpose of racking up AP. People have been running around with Magicka Detonation in BwB lately, leveled in their 30's, it makes me wonder. I would actually be surprised if this isn't how some folks at #1 outpace a more or less linear leaderboard AP spread by double the points of the #2 player. People really want that hideous emperor costume for whatever reason, now that it's account-wide.

reften

I rarely lead, but am 100% in favor of the group leader getting more AP than everyone else. We have some excellent group leaders who bust their butt when leading, and quite honestly, without them in this game, I wouldn't be playing anymore.

Lord-Stien

Turelus wrote: »

DeanTheCat wrote: »

The group leader doesn't gain more AP than anyone else in the group, but is generally responsible for the well-being of the group in question. It's quite a lot of work that often goes unrecognized by the group members.

Especially by these people.

• The 1vX Snowflake - No matter how many times you say the group should travel together, they're not included in that.
• The Socialiser - It doesn't matter that you just engaged an enemy raid, this person needs to tell you about their awesome day.
• The Backseat Leader - You really should have done this, and you really should be doing that, this person knows all the superior tactics. They won't lead mind you, they're the first to admit they don't have the knowledge required for that.
• The Debater - Something when wrong! Stop the raid! We have to fix this now! No, no, ignore the scroll they just stole, we have to fix this NOW!
• The AP Wh*re - "Damn that was an intense defence, what we're leaving to protect our scroll keep? Hold I just need to AFK because.... reason!"
• Top Gun - This person is the best player in all of ESO. Don't worry if you didn't know, they'll soon inform you how they just killed 12 guys solo while you defending the flags.
• The Crow - If it's shiny, they have to be the first to touch it. Don't worry about those orders to wait for the group at the well or who will carry the scroll, it's shiny so it must be touched.

you forgot one ....

* ( I have BOOBS so what ever i say matter's more than anything..) regardless if they are right or wrong .... mostly wrong