Why the lack of options in the new group finder?

Azurephoenix999

Having severe trouble in a public dungeon atm. Can't even call for help using group finder as there's no option whatsoever for public dungeons in there.

Message to ZOS: Group Delves and Veteran Group Delves only account for about 10% of PVE, why the hell are they the only options we get?

Seriously, the finder has 4 tabs:

1. Dungeons
2. Veteran Dungeons
3. Cyrodiil
4. Imperial City

2 of those are PVP, and the 2 that are PVE only account for about 10% of it, WTF?

Am I the only person seeing this as an issue?

UltimaJoe777

If you're having trouble in a Public Dungeon ask a Guildie for help or a friend. The Public Dungeons are easy enough to do with 2 people if you cannot solo them. Beyond that people can be found there and you can simply ask them if they wanna group up or if you can join theirs if they have one already!

Azurephoenix999

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

If you're having trouble in a Public Dungeon ask a Guildie for help or a friend. The Public Dungeons are easy enough to do with 2 people if you cannot solo them. Beyond that people can be found there and you can simply ask them if they wanna group up or if you can join theirs if they have one already!

Firstly, I do have guildmates that could help me. They're just not online right now.

Secondly, I'm having to deal with 2 bosses simultaneously, one of which can literally one shot me with a dagger throw. I can't dodge the dagger throw every single time whilst dividing my concentration between the two bosses. This is why I can't solo it.

Thirdly, the group finder is a tool advertised as being able to help people in this exact situation. It is to find help in the event you get to an encounter you can't do on your own. The fact that it only panders to certain parts of the game is absolute ***.

Azurephoenix999

Hello, guys? Some answers please?

MrDerrikk

Have you tried calling for help in /zone? I'd help, but on the wrong platform and at work

Azurephoenix999

MrDerrikk wrote: »

Have you tried calling for help in /zone? I'd help, but on the wrong platform and at work

Console, I can't do that.

MrDerrikk

Azurephoenix999 wrote: »

MrDerrikk wrote: »

Have you tried calling for help in /zone? I'd help, but on the wrong platform and at work

Console, I can't do that.

Oh yeah, sorry

Care to give a run-down of your build? I have soloed those bosses before (I think I died once), although it was on a magic char. Might be able to give some helpers though.

Azurephoenix999

MrDerrikk wrote: »

Azurephoenix999 wrote: »

MrDerrikk wrote: »

Have you tried calling for help in /zone? I'd help, but on the wrong platform and at work

Console, I can't do that.

Oh yeah, sorry

Care to give a run-down of your build? I have soloed those bosses before (I think I died once), although it was on a magic char. Might be able to give some helpers though.

I killed them with a friend who came online just now (he's VR16 so it was super easy). I'm going to be changing my build soon anyways (just waiting until I unlock Vigor).

I still think that the group finder should cover other areas of PVE rather than just group delves.

lolo_01b16_ESO

There used to be more options for the group finder. You could also search for a group for trials, dsa or just questing / exploring a certain region. This got removed when they added the option to group with players from other alliances, as this is only possible in dungeons.
They could probably add it back without too much effort, but I assume that next to noone ever used this option especially considering how bugged the group finder used to be.

Diozaels

Public dungeons and delves really don't need to be added to the group finder. They're pretty easy to solo already.

I'd rather see a group finder tool added for trials before that. Even though I wouldn't use the tool to group with ransoms. The "tanks" and "heals" I find in group finder are bad enough.

Rather resources be used on creating new content.

Cathexis

I would love to have the option to choose scaling to crown or battle level

Enodoc

To answer the 'why' question, these were removed because the group finder now does cross-faction grouping and battle-levelling. Cross-faction grouping and battle-levelling are not possible in public dungeons or in the overworld, so they were removed from the group finder.

runagate

Enodoc wrote: »

To answer the 'why' question, these were removed because the group finder now does cross-faction grouping and battle-levelling. Cross-faction grouping and battle-levelling are not possible in public dungeons or in the overworld, so they were removed from the group finder.

Wait, what!? When using the group finder you can end up playing cross-faction? I've always ignored the LFG tool (as I view it mostly as a way to ensure you end up playing with the people who somehow managed to be so terrible that they cannot make friends or find guildmates to play with them, and am pretty opposed to even being in a group with even one pick-up member, as I always seem to end up with the "tank" without a taunt or a shield or other time-wasting craziness), but that's pretty interesting. I'll have to go re-read the patch notes. Next thing you'll tell me that using the LFG tool gives you access to a less cruel and sarcastic loot table or traits for BOP items or some other reward. Frankly, I'd assumed that no one used it, anyway, regardless of whether it was finally fixed or not.

Forgive me, I've been away half a year and logged into 5 FPS in Cyrodiil and Wrothgar, so I'd assumed pretty much everything else had remained the same, too.

Cross-faction questing. Be interesting to run around with some of my old PvP enemies.

Enodoc

runagate wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

To answer the 'why' question, these were removed because the group finder now does cross-faction grouping and battle-levelling. Cross-faction grouping and battle-levelling are not possible in public dungeons or in the overworld, so they were removed from the group finder.

Wait, what!? When using the group finder you can end up playing cross-faction? I've always ignored the LFG tool (as I view it mostly as a way to ensure you end up playing with the people who somehow managed to be so terrible that they cannot make friends or find guildmates to play with them, and am pretty opposed to even being in a group with even one pick-up member, as I always seem to end up with the "tank" without a taunt or a shield or other time-wasting craziness), but that's pretty interesting. I'll have to go re-read the patch notes. Next thing you'll tell me that using the LFG tool gives you access to a less cruel and sarcastic loot table or traits for BOP items or some other reward. Frankly, I'd assumed that no one used it, anyway, regardless of whether it was finally fixed or not.

Forgive me, I've been away half a year and logged into 5 FPS in Cyrodiil and Wrothgar, so I'd assumed pretty much everything else had remained the same, too.

Cross-faction questing. Be interesting to run around with some of my old PvP enemies.

Yes indeed. And there is a small reward for running a dungeon through the group finder (or there should be; not sure if it's been implemented yet). Here are the relevant patch notes:

Grouping Tool Improvements

We have performed a significant mechanical overhaul of the Grouping Tool. It will now find groups more rapidly and reliably when looking for any available group. Below are the first steps on the road to making the Grouping Tool an adventurer’s best friend – look for additional improvements in a future update.

Dungeon groups formed through the Grouping Tool will receive a moderate buff to their stats while inside that dungeon.Loot will be contextualized to your level.

Groups can now be formed across all three alliances. It is entirely possible for two Aldmeri characters to team up with an Ebonheart and Daggerfall duo through the Grouping Tool to complete a dungeon.