Dots in PvP

Galalin

We have a huge amount of skills that incorporate dots into classes/weapons/enchants etc. that are utterly useless in PvP because a simple cloak or purge and its gone. How the hell does cloak remove a dot? its ruining my emersion in the game. like going invisible magically stops you from bleeding, burning, poison etc? how is this even a thing?

I understand the purge clearing dots but something needs to be changed because they PvP player base is missing out on a tons of fun builds because of these issues.

DK SCRUB OUT

lets here the QQ NB's have at it

dsalter

Galalin wrote: »

We have a huge amount of skills that incorporate dots into classes/weapons/enchants etc. that are utterly useless in PvP because a simple cloak or purge and its gone. How the hell does cloak remove a dot? its ruining my emersion in the game. like going invisible magically stops you from bleeding, burning, poison etc? how is this even a thing?

I understand the purge clearing dots but something needs to be changed because they PvP player base is missing out on a tons of fun builds because of these issues.

DK SCRUB OUT

lets here the QQ NB's have at it

itbh i think bleeds should NOT be purgable, bleeds are so pathetic as it is but if they became unpurgable they'd actually be useful

Kutsuu

Yeah any random DOT should make cloak useless. All buff should also break cloak/stealth. And for baby jesus' sake, remove ambush and mass hysteria from the game!

edit: This is sarcasm... obviously.

OGLezard

Yes how dare them NB remove the DoTs from a DK that uses them while hiding behind that fortress they call a shield while reflecting everything back at people. Ermagherd my umersion!

Serious note though, it don't matter. Three ways to reduce the DoT damage to laughable amounts. Reduce magic reduce element reduce dot damage. Boom. DoTs are now not even a thing

ostrapz

Lol everyone went right to nb like purge doesnt exist. And nb cloak does not just purge all as u suspect. Dot doesnt work on sheilds either. Dot wont even outdo a heal so i think nb cloak being the reason dot is uselss is not serious. You should buff in stealth but not heal i partially agree. And if dot stopped cloak then cloak would just never work so thats not reasonable. Alsp why would they completely remove two moves from game? Maybe adjust them makes more sense lol. As far as bleeds go i dont have the link but zos did say they were goin to make bleed more effective/ apply on things that are now immune

Kutsuu

ostrapz wrote: »

Lol everyone went right to nb like purge doesnt exist. And nb cloak does not just purge all as u suspect. Dot doesnt work on sheilds either. Dot wont even outdo a heal so i think nb cloak being the reason dot is uselss is not serious. You should buff in stealth but not heal i partially agree. And if dot stopped cloak then cloak would just never work so thats not reasonable. Alsp why would they completely remove two moves from game? Maybe adjust them makes more sense lol. As far as bleeds go i dont have the link but zos did say they were goin to make bleed more effective/ apply on things that are now immune

Just a little sarcasm.. lol

IxskullzxI

OGLezard wrote: »

Yes how dare them NB remove the DoTs from a DK that uses them while hiding behind that fortress they call a shield while reflecting everything back at people. Ermagherd my umersion!

Serious note though, it don't matter. Three ways to reduce the DoT damage to laughable amounts. Reduce magic reduce element reduce dot damage. Boom. DoTs are now not even a thing

DoTs already do laughable amounts of damage without doing those things..

Digiman

No, this would break vanish. Honestly it's not that hard to replace those dots till they burn their resources to nothing.

Dracane

I think, Dots shouldn't break cloak, neither should they be removed by it. The high amount of Nightblade players and their cloak makes DoT builds impossible in pvp. I also think, that a simply spammable class ability should NEVER negate ultimate abilities that need a long time to charge. Meteor is a great example

Ultimates should always have a superior mechanic and a cheap spammable skill shouldn't totally negate them. Now you could say 'reflective scales does the same'
True and maybe this is bad either. But reflective scales is the 5th ability of draconic power and 5th abilities are considered the super class abilities that are especially powerfull in some situations.

Tankqull

dsalter wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

We have a huge amount of skills that incorporate dots into classes/weapons/enchants etc. that are utterly useless in PvP because a simple cloak or purge and its gone. How the hell does cloak remove a dot? its ruining my emersion in the game. like going invisible magically stops you from bleeding, burning, poison etc? how is this even a thing?

I understand the purge clearing dots but something needs to be changed because they PvP player base is missing out on a tons of fun builds because of these issues.

DK SCRUB OUT

lets here the QQ NB's have at it

itbh i think bleeds should NOT be purgable, bleeds are so pathetic as it is but if they became unpurgable they'd actually be useful

have fun facing a a WW with uncleansable bleeds...

ostrapz wrote: »

Lol everyone went right to nb like purge doesnt exist. And nb cloak does not just purge all as u suspect. Dot doesnt work on sheilds either. Dot wont even outdo a heal so i think nb cloak being the reason dot is uselss is not serious. You should buff in stealth but not heal i partially agree. And if dot stopped cloak then cloak would just never work so thats not reasonable. Alsp why would they completely remove two moves from game? Maybe adjust them makes more sense lol. As far as bleeds go i dont have the link but zos did say they were goin to make bleed more effective/ apply on things that are now immune

wrong - they do even bleeds since orsinium or IC...

tinythinker

Ideas I've posted in other threads that might help:

Change to a DK passive:

Searing Heat: Causes an enemy to take the full impact of the damage over time portion of Fiery Breath or Searing Strike in a single burst if it is cleansed.

New armor set:

Aetherial Spark (heavy armor)
2 pc Max Health
3 pc Physical Resist
4 pc Spell Resist
5 pc Grants the wearer a 10% chance per DoT or HoT tick to score a double critical hit.

Prabooo

... as if there only were only NB's in Cyrodiil... butthurt maybe?

Lexxypwns

Galalin wrote: »

We have a huge amount of skills that incorporate dots into classes/weapons/enchants etc. that are utterly useless in PvP because a simple cloak or purge and its gone. How the hell does cloak remove a dot? its ruining my emersion in the game. like going invisible magically stops you from bleeding, burning, poison etc? how is this even a thing?

I understand the purge clearing dots but something needs to be changed because they PvP player base is missing out on a tons of fun builds because of these issues.

DK SCRUB OUT

lets hear the QQ NB's have at it

fixed that for you

also, single target damage pulls you out of cloak, if cloak doesn't cleanse dots you'll never be able to cloak, stupid idea is stupid, there's already tons of counters to cloak, we don't need to make another arbitrary one

Forestd16b14_ESO

agreed DOTs need changed.

Alucardo

This has ALWAYS bothered me too DK scrub. In fact, a main part of my damage comes from DoTs, so Nightblades that just cloak it off the instant I cast it are going to have a significant advantage.
I guess this is ESO's way of telling me to use wrecking blow instead of relying on class skills.