Bad RNG? - Need confirmation.

Xantaria

So I've been grinding Veteran Fungal Grotto recently to get the Mephala headpiece.

I do have an Addon that shows me the loot of party members and in all my runs it has not dropped a single time for anybody.

That's why I'm asking:

Has anybody found a v16 Mephala Headpiece since Orsinium?

AzraelKrieg

I have. Since Orsinium though, I've only had two helms drop.

Xantaria

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

I have. Since Orsinium though, I've only had two helms drop.

Thank you ... Well I haven't found a single v16 undaunted headpiece since Imperial City ... and I'm doing gold constantly and farming vWGT vICP and now vFungal ...

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO

I've gotten pretty much every single headpiece since IC was released on my first or second attempt except the dungeons I've just not been interested in doing.

Xantaria

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

I've gotten pretty much every single headpiece since IC was released on my first or second attempt except the dungeons I've just not been interested in doing.

And I'm bashing my head against the wall after my 50th vWGT run ...

It seriously is time for a token system.

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO

Xantaria wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

I've gotten pretty much every single headpiece since IC was released on my first or second attempt except the dungeons I've just not been interested in doing.

And I'm bashing my head against the wall after my 50th vWGT run ...

Sorry to hear that, yeah I've been super lucky with my drops, got a Kena helmet with divines on my second ever run of vWGT.

Xantaria

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »

I've gotten pretty much every single headpiece since IC was released on my first or second attempt except the dungeons I've just not been interested in doing.

And I'm bashing my head against the wall after my 50th vWGT run ...

Sorry to hear that, yeah I've been super lucky with my drops, got a Kena helmet with divines on my second ever run of vWGT.

It hurts so much ... I guess at some point my skull is just gonna crack ... or the wall is going to get crushed.

Qyrk

I can relate. I have been in #167th run on DC, just to get the helm as v16.

Still nothing.

RNG is such an elite boss

LorDrek

Any shoulders lord warden from 150 chest. Any COA helm drop 50 runs. Other same. Shoulder molag kena only 1 piece heavy weltifed. Molag kena helm reinforced 2 piece from 100 runs, no infused or divines.

Zilch

A token system surely would be nice! I'm beginning to doubt that ZOS will implement one though. One could hope after VR removal and new gear scaling.

I could settle for a way to change traits on items, if they plan to keep this RNG-hell though.

Edit: I'm not sure how the gear will scale in the future, other than it might require CP to equip. With this change, they can increase gear requirements more often than with the VR system I would assume.
It's gonna be tedious to farm new monster helmets/shoulders if gear level changes every DLC and the loot system remains the same. This is however all speculation.

Dymence

I think I've gotten one recently, but I'm curious.... why would you want it?

Xantaria

Dymence wrote: »

I think I've gotten one recently, but I'm curious.... why would you want it?

@Dymence
It is part of the items I need to get 30k Serpent DPS.

Like my gear is complete *** and all the stuff I need is gated by RNG.

Dymence

Xantaria wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

I think I've gotten one recently, but I'm curious.... why would you want it?

@Dymence
It is part of the items I need to get 30k Serpent DPS.

Like my gear is complete *** and all the stuff I need is gated by RNG.

Didn't it get fixed to only work on fully charged heavy attacks? Surely nothing is worth using fully charged heavy attacks for?

Xantaria

@Dymence
Well, if you check my DPS screenshot in my signature ... those are fully charged Heavy Attacks.

Surely there is nothing wrong with using those.

But anyway. The build that I'm playing is weird. Can't recommend it although the numbers are great and will be even greater once I complete my gear.

AlnilamE

I've gotten a v16 Blood Spawn, a v5 Skoria (2 helms in that run), can't remember if I got a v16 Bogdan or not, I'll have to check. Someone got a v16 Nerien'eth in one of the runs I did, and a v16 Maw of the Infernal.

What you need to do is come up with a build that does not include the boss sets. Then they start dropping like crazy.

Dymence

Xantaria wrote: »

@Dymence
Well, if you check my DPS screenshot in my signature ... those are fully charged Heavy Attacks.

Surely there is nothing wrong with using those.

But anyway. The build that I'm playing is weird. Can't recommend it although the numbers are great and will be even greater once I complete my gear.

Of course there's nothing wrong with using fully charged heavy attacks, I just never imagined it could be viable.

They're really nice numbers for a stamina build, and I hope they're 'real' (as in not created by the maelstrom dagger enchant proccing on spamming rapid strikes on its own), as it would just lead to a bug fix ruining stamina again.

Xantaria

Dymence wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

@Dymence
Well, if you check my DPS screenshot in my signature ... those are fully charged Heavy Attacks.

Surely there is nothing wrong with using those.

But anyway. The build that I'm playing is weird. Can't recommend it although the numbers are great and will be even greater once I complete my gear.

Of course there's nothing wrong with using fully charged heavy attacks, I just never imagined it could be viable.

They're really nice numbers for a stamina build, and I hope they're 'real' (as in not created by the maelstrom dagger enchant proccing on spamming rapid strikes on its own), as it would just lead to a bug fix ruining stamina again.

It's real, and Rapid Strikes cannot buff itself ... I've been using fully charged heavy attacks for almost a year now. They are viable but it will take a hell of a lot of time to learn how.

Dymence

Xantaria wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

@Dymence
Well, if you check my DPS screenshot in my signature ... those are fully charged Heavy Attacks.

Surely there is nothing wrong with using those.

But anyway. The build that I'm playing is weird. Can't recommend it although the numbers are great and will be even greater once I complete my gear.

Of course there's nothing wrong with using fully charged heavy attacks, I just never imagined it could be viable.

They're really nice numbers for a stamina build, and I hope they're 'real' (as in not created by the maelstrom dagger enchant proccing on spamming rapid strikes on its own), as it would just lead to a bug fix ruining stamina again.

It's real, and Rapid Strikes cannot buff itself ... I've been using fully charged heavy attacks for almost a year now. They are viable but it will take a hell of a lot of time to learn how.

Are you sure about that? I'm pretty sure the maelstrom enchant which procs off flurry buffs flurry itself..

Xantaria

Dymence wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

@Dymence
Well, if you check my DPS screenshot in my signature ... those are fully charged Heavy Attacks.

Surely there is nothing wrong with using those.

But anyway. The build that I'm playing is weird. Can't recommend it although the numbers are great and will be even greater once I complete my gear.

Of course there's nothing wrong with using fully charged heavy attacks, I just never imagined it could be viable.

They're really nice numbers for a stamina build, and I hope they're 'real' (as in not created by the maelstrom dagger enchant proccing on spamming rapid strikes on its own), as it would just lead to a bug fix ruining stamina again.

It's real, and Rapid Strikes cannot buff itself ... I've been using fully charged heavy attacks for almost a year now. They are viable but it will take a hell of a lot of time to learn how.

Are you sure about that? I'm pretty sure the maelstrom enchant which procs off flurry buffs flurry itself..

A lot of testing has been done with that and yeah I'm sure it doesn't. Also I'm not using rapid strikes twice in a row.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Artis

They aren't introducing the token system for a good reason! If you get your helm/shoulders too soon - you will stop doing vet dungeons => new players might never be able to find a party for pledges.

It's not like you NEED that helm or need it with a specific trait. Sure, it's nice to have, but for now you can run alternative builds without it. At some point you will get it, don't worry. It's not a game changer anyway, and you can do good without that helm.

I, however, think there should be a token system in harder dungeons. vWGT and vICP drop some sets that have many items (not just helmets) and those are too rare and almost not worth farming. Those could use a real token system, not the one with keys that we have now, where you open that chest and still have no control over what you get.

Zilch

Artemis wrote: »

They aren't introducing the token system for a good reason! If you get your helm/shoulders too soon - you will stop doing vet dungeons => new players might never be able to find a party for pledges.

It's not like you NEED that helm or need it with a specific trait. Sure, it's nice to have, but for now you can run alternative builds without it. At some point you will get it, don't worry. It's not a game changer anyway, and you can do good without that helm.

I, however, think there should be a token system in harder dungeons. vWGT and vICP drop some sets that have many items (not just helmets) and those are too rare and almost not worth farming. Those could use a real token system, not the one with keys that we have now, where you open that chest and still have no control over what you get.

You believe that people don't really need X, therefore it shouldn't be easier to get.
Yet you want Y, so it should be easier to get.

WAT

Tryxus

I don't care what they plan to do,...

I just want the grinding to stop and find a friggin' monster helmet

Spearshard

I've actually just given up on it. I'm done trying for nerien set. Only God knows how many keys I've used between my 2 v16's. Not even a whif of a bad weight or trait. No helm either. I'm tired of working a second job farming for zos. It was getting to the point where I would look at the launcher and think....do I really want to keep trying, is it worth it? Now I play an alt, or pvp and enjoy myself again. See ya pointless grind.

nimander99

Xantaria wrote: »

Bad RNG? - Need confirmation.

I can confirm; RNG is bad.

Dymence

Xantaria wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Dymence wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

@Dymence
Well, if you check my DPS screenshot in my signature ... those are fully charged Heavy Attacks.

Surely there is nothing wrong with using those.

But anyway. The build that I'm playing is weird. Can't recommend it although the numbers are great and will be even greater once I complete my gear.

Of course there's nothing wrong with using fully charged heavy attacks, I just never imagined it could be viable.

They're really nice numbers for a stamina build, and I hope they're 'real' (as in not created by the maelstrom dagger enchant proccing on spamming rapid strikes on its own), as it would just lead to a bug fix ruining stamina again.

It's real, and Rapid Strikes cannot buff itself ... I've been using fully charged heavy attacks for almost a year now. They are viable but it will take a hell of a lot of time to learn how.

Are you sure about that? I'm pretty sure the maelstrom enchant which procs off flurry buffs flurry itself..

A lot of testing has been done with that and yeah I'm sure it doesn't. Also I'm not using rapid strikes twice in a row.

That's cool then, good to see stamina (or at least stamina dks) can be competitive still

Xantaria

Artemis wrote: »

They aren't introducing the token system for a good reason! If you get your helm/shoulders too soon - you will stop doing vet dungeons => new players might never be able to find a party for pledges.

It's not like you NEED that helm or need it with a specific trait. Sure, it's nice to have, but for now you can run alternative builds without it. At some point you will get it, don't worry. It's not a game changer anyway, and you can do good without that helm.

I, however, think there should be a token system in harder dungeons. vWGT and vICP drop some sets that have many items (not just helmets) and those are too rare and almost not worth farming. Those could use a real token system, not the one with keys that we have now, where you open that chest and still have no control over what you get.

I DO need it in Medium Divines.

code65536

Artemis wrote: »

They aren't introducing the token system for a good reason! If you get your helm/shoulders too soon - you will stop doing vet dungeons => new players might never be able to find a party for pledges.

It's not like you NEED that helm or need it with a specific trait. Sure, it's nice to have, but for now you can run alternative builds without it. At some point you will get it, don't worry. It's not a game changer anyway, and you can do good without that helm.

I, however, think there should be a token system in harder dungeons. vWGT and vICP drop some sets that have many items (not just helmets) and those are too rare and almost not worth farming. Those could use a real token system, not the one with keys that we have now, where you open that chest and still have no control over what you get.

I'm still running pledges daily even though there isn't a specific helm/shoulder that I'm looking for.

And when I am farming for helms/shoulders, I'm not doing it with "new players" because farm runs need to be fast and run with experienced groups.

Alucardo

I feel you bro. All that PVE sounds horrible.

asneakybanana

Now that I think about it I've been doing the daily every single day since orsinium release and maybe seen 1 helm drop in all my groups. Also would b really interested in finding out your build that you can incorporate heavy attacks that successfully

eldermpsmithrwb17_ESO

never had one at all, and ive done 100's of pledges and grotto dozens of times multiple chars, one of the only helms i havent seen