Vet Maelstrom Arena - Stamina Nightblade - Full Run 409k (Uncut)

Alcast

https://youtu.be/b_WgePrkLa4

More videos can be found here of Arena: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWqnQ2EfnFBjwL4gyr2ajgQg04n2H_flo

5x Hundings
3x Endurance (2x weap dmg 1x Stamrec)
3x NightmothersGaze (2x Dagger precise)
1x Kena
Shadow Mundus
HP/Stam food

DW Bar:
Mass Hysteria
STornado/Shadow Image
Surprise Attack
Killers Blade
Resolving Vigor

Soulharvest/Dawnbreaker

Bow Bar:
Arrow Barrage
Caltrops
Snipe/Evin Hunter
Siphoning Stikes
Refreshing path

Bolstering Darkness

Love Wizard

Full fist my friend, full fist

tangy.citrus

Stamblade OP pl0x nerf

hrothbern

Alcast wrote: »

https://youtu.be/b_WgePrkLa4

More videos can be found here of Arena: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWqnQ2EfnFBjwL4gyr2ajgQg04n2H_flo

really nice

Furor

Well done!

What gear setup were you using for this if you don't mind me asking?
And 501 cp I'm assuming?

Alcast

Furor wrote: »

Well done!

What gear setup were you using for this if you don't mind me asking?
And 501 cp I'm assuming?

Yes 501 CP.

5x Hundings
3x Endurance (2x weap dmg 1x Stamrec)
3x NightmothersGaze (2x Dagger precise)
1x Kena
Shadow Mundus
HP/Stam food

DW Bar:
Mass Hysteria
STornado/Shadow Image
Surprise Attack
Killers Blade
Resolving Vigor

Soulharvest/Dawnbreaker

Bow Bar:
Arrow Barrage
Caltrops
Snipe/Evin Hunter
Siphoning Stikes
Refreshing path

Bolstering Darkness

Ezareth

You don't have a source of Major brutality?

That's a pretty interesting build.

Good video so far, some things easier for you and some things harder so far compared to my NB.

Does Dual wield have higher actual damage than a 2 hander?

Kammakazi

Nearly had a seizure from the flashing white hotbar.

Furor

Ezareth wrote: »

You don't have a source of Major brutality?

That's a pretty interesting build.

Good video so far, some things easier for you and some things harder so far compared to my NB.

Does Dual wield have higher actual damage than a 2 hander?

Both DW and 2hand have 5% damage bonus but the DW opens up 2 set pieces (for 3 pc Nightmothers vs 2hand and only having 2pc Nightmothers)

MrGrimey

Ezareth wrote: »

You don't have a source of Major brutality?

That's a pretty interesting build.

Good video so far, some things easier for you and some things harder so far compared to my NB.

Does Dual wield have higher actual damage than a 2 hander?

it's a potion build

Ezareth

MrGrimey wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

You don't have a source of Major brutality?

That's a pretty interesting build.

Good video so far, some things easier for you and some things harder so far compared to my NB.

Does Dual wield have higher actual damage than a 2 hander?

it's a potion build

Ahh I've seen that on a magicka sorc before, should have considered it for a Stam build. Makes sense.

Furor wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

You don't have a source of Major brutality?

That's a pretty interesting build.

Good video so far, some things easier for you and some things harder so far compared to my NB.

Does Dual wield have higher actual damage than a 2 hander?

Both DW and 2hand have 5% damage bonus but the DW opens up 2 set pieces (for 3 pc Nightmothers vs 2hand and only having 2pc Nightmothers)

Thanks. I'm debating on whether to try going without the 2 hander but I have a Maelstrom Precise Maul and a sharpened bow and am not sure if I could craft something to make it worth while. I do want to use Sword and Board on my Stamblade though so I'll probably go with 2 5 Pc sets and 1 2hand maelstrom weapon and 1 2pc sets for sword and board.

Question (I'm new to NB PvE DPS), is Dark shade better than the morph with 2 shades from a DPS perspective? Or is it just a PvP morph that does almost as well in PvE?

Jura23

Ezareth wrote: »

You don't have a source of Major brutality?

That's a pretty interesting build.

Good video so far, some things easier for you and some things harder so far compared to my NB.

Does Dual wield have higher actual damage than a 2 hander?

Is there a place where I can find all possible source ingame listed?

Anybody?

Gilvoth

mental note:

501 champion points.

Alcast

Ezareth wrote: »

You don't have a source of Major brutality?

That's a pretty interesting build.

Good video so far, some things easier for you and some things harder so far compared to my NB.

Does Dual wield have higher actual damage than a 2 hander?

Dualwield has more damage and I can get more crit from it as every dagger gives me extra 5% weap crit.

Also I use potions to get crit and weap dmg buff yes.

About the Image morph, I think both give the dmg reduction debuff to enemy so it does not matter.

Destruent

Jura23 wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

You don't have a source of Major brutality?

That's a pretty interesting build.

Good video so far, some things easier for you and some things harder so far compared to my NB.

Does Dual wield have higher actual damage than a 2 hander?

Is there a place where I can find all possible source ingame listed?

Anybody?

No, you have to search in your skill-window for skills that give major brutality.
You can use the following:

- Momentum (and morphs)-2Hander
- Hidden Blade (and Morphs)-Dual Wield
- Surge (and Morphs) (Sorcerer/Storm Calling)
- Drain Power (and morphs) (Nightblade/Siphoning)
- Potions

dday3six

Looking at your magicka pool, you're 7/7 medium right?

Jeckll

Well played, mate.
I like the way you adaped the "DPS the Portal" Style from DSA with Refreshing Path, Arrow Barrage and Caltrops.

Alcast

dday3six wrote: »

Looking at your magicka pool, you're 7/7 medium right?

5/1/1

Jeckll wrote: »

Well played, mate.
I like the way you adaped the "DPS the Portal" Style from DSA with Refreshing Path, Arrow Barrage and Caltrops.

in vMA you cannot damage portals, but I mainly use those aoe skills because of siphoning attacks. I only have 1,2k stam rec but still the stamina you get from siphoning attacks is *** OP lol. I mean the more aoe on ground the more stamina I gain.

Nifty2g

thats 1 thing im glad they removed and listened to my pleas, thank you @ZOS_RichLambert and dungeon team for removing portal damage

willymchilybily

damn good job al.

dday3six

Alcast wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

Looking at your magicka pool, you're 7/7 medium right?

5/1/1

Kool thanks I was trying to figure out why I had more Magicka, it was the Magicka Flood Passive. I was looking at my stats when I was on a farming build, and because I slot Siphoning Attacks on the front I had over 10k.

Jeckll

Alcast wrote: »

in vMA you cannot damage portals, but I mainly use those aoe skills because of siphoning attacks. I only have 1,2k stam rec but still the stamina you get from siphoning attacks is *** OP lol. I mean the more aoe on ground the more stamina I gain.

I know but they get hit the second they spawn by multiple sources.
Your assumption about Siphoning Attacks is not entirely correct. It has an internal CD, so you cant get infinite procs just by stacking damage effects. Also Refreshing Path does not Proc Siphoning Attacks, only Twisting Path (other morph) does.

hrothbern

Jeckll wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

in vMA you cannot damage portals, but I mainly use those aoe skills because of siphoning attacks. I only have 1,2k stam rec but still the stamina you get from siphoning attacks is *** OP lol. I mean the more aoe on ground the more stamina I gain.

I know but they get hit the second they spawn by multiple sources.
Your assumption about Siphoning Attacks is not entirely correct. It has an internal CD, so you cant get infinite procs just by stacking damage effects. Also Refreshing Path does not Proc Siphoning Attacks, only Twisting Path (other morph) does.

"It has an internal CD, so you cant get infinite procs just by stacking damage effects"

Oops...... Never thought about an internal Cool Down of Siphoning Attacks !

Question 1: Say I cast Twisting Path on a mob of 5 enemies. Is it then impossible to get on the same tick more than 1 proc?

Question 2: Do you perhaps know how long this internal Cool Down is? (If I have Twisting Path up and do Sap Esence on the same enemies, and Twisting Path procs, can I get an additional proc from Sap Essence? Or does it only increase the chance on a proc in case Twisting Path did not proc?)

Jeckll

hrothbern wrote: »

Jeckll wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

in vMA you cannot damage portals, but I mainly use those aoe skills because of siphoning attacks. I only have 1,2k stam rec but still the stamina you get from siphoning attacks is *** OP lol. I mean the more aoe on ground the more stamina I gain.

I know but they get hit the second they spawn by multiple sources.
Your assumption about Siphoning Attacks is not entirely correct. It has an internal CD, so you cant get infinite procs just by stacking damage effects. Also Refreshing Path does not Proc Siphoning Attacks, only Twisting Path (other morph) does.

"It has an internal CD, so you cant get infinite procs just by stacking damage effects"

Oops...... Never thought about an internal Cool Down of Siphoning Attacks !

Question 1: Say I cast Twisting Path on a mob of 5 enemies. Is it then impossible to get on the same tick more than 1 proc?

Question 2: Do you perhaps know how long this internal Cool Down is? (If I have Twisting Path up and do Sap Esence on the same enemies, and Twisting Path procs, can I get an additional proc from Sap Essence? Or does it only increase the chance on a proc in case Twisting Path did not proc?)

Never seen a multi proc of Siphining Attacks like it happens with Camo Hunter openings for example. I never tested explicitly but I think it's unlikely.

Pretty sure the CD it's once a second.

If you stack multiple damage effects, you increase the chance to proc it, but it still procs once per sec at best.

hrothbern

Jeckll wrote: »

hrothbern wrote: »

Jeckll wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

in vMA you cannot damage portals, but I mainly use those aoe skills because of siphoning attacks. I only have 1,2k stam rec but still the stamina you get from siphoning attacks is *** OP lol. I mean the more aoe on ground the more stamina I gain.

I know but they get hit the second they spawn by multiple sources.
Your assumption about Siphoning Attacks is not entirely correct. It has an internal CD, so you cant get infinite procs just by stacking damage effects. Also Refreshing Path does not Proc Siphoning Attacks, only Twisting Path (other morph) does.

"It has an internal CD, so you cant get infinite procs just by stacking damage effects"

Oops...... Never thought about an internal Cool Down of Siphoning Attacks !

Question 1: Say I cast Twisting Path on a mob of 5 enemies. Is it then impossible to get on the same tick more than 1 proc?

Question 2: Do you perhaps know how long this internal Cool Down is? (If I have Twisting Path up and do Sap Esence on the same enemies, and Twisting Path procs, can I get an additional proc from Sap Essence? Or does it only increase the chance on a proc in case Twisting Path did not proc?)

Never seen a multi proc of Siphining Attacks like it happens with Camo Hunter openings for example. I never tested explicitly but I think it's unlikely.

Pretty sure the CD it's once a second.

If you stack multiple damage effects, you increase the chance to proc it, but it still procs once per sec at best.

@Jeckll , Thanks

Ezareth

Jeckll wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

in vMA you cannot damage portals, but I mainly use those aoe skills because of siphoning attacks. I only have 1,2k stam rec but still the stamina you get from siphoning attacks is *** OP lol. I mean the more aoe on ground the more stamina I gain.

I know but they get hit the second they spawn by multiple sources.
Your assumption about Siphoning Attacks is not entirely correct. It has an internal CD, so you cant get infinite procs just by stacking damage effects. Also Refreshing Path does not Proc Siphoning Attacks, only Twisting Path (other morph) does.

@Alcast

I'm curious about this. I'm using a 5 Hunt Leader / 5 Hundings / Maelstrom Weapons build that I put together on my NB but I'm having difficulty deciding which abilities to use since my experience with NB is limited to PvP only.

I'd like to decide on the abilities so I can commit them to memory. Dropping in a random bar I have no experience with then going into vMSA has not been pleasant as it is going to take some time before I'm proficient with the build. Changing this up constantly will only prolong the pain.

Hunt Leader is actually pretty amazing on the resource returns since I always keep shades up and the heals crit for ~5K all the time.

If you had to choose between Refreshing/Twisting Path or Caltrops as a Stamblade what would you prefer?

Would you use dual Maelstrom Daggers(have Precise/Sharpened atm) and if so would you bother with Flurry?

Alcast

Ezareth wrote: »

Jeckll wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

in vMA you cannot damage portals, but I mainly use those aoe skills because of siphoning attacks. I only have 1,2k stam rec but still the stamina you get from siphoning attacks is *** OP lol. I mean the more aoe on ground the more stamina I gain.

I know but they get hit the second they spawn by multiple sources.
Your assumption about Siphoning Attacks is not entirely correct. It has an internal CD, so you cant get infinite procs just by stacking damage effects. Also Refreshing Path does not Proc Siphoning Attacks, only Twisting Path (other morph) does.

@Alcast

I'm curious about this. I'm using a 5 Hunt Leader / 5 Hundings / Maelstrom Weapons build that I put together on my NB but I'm having difficulty deciding which abilities to use since my experience with NB is limited to PvP only.

I'd like to decide on the abilities so I can commit them to memory. Dropping in a random bar I have no experience with then going into vMSA has not been pleasant as it is going to take some time before I'm proficient with the build. Changing this up constantly will only prolong the pain.

Hunt Leader is actually pretty amazing on the resource returns since I always keep shades up and the heals crit for ~5K all the time.

If you had to choose between Refreshing/Twisting Path or Caltrops as a Stamblade what would you prefer?

Would you use dual Maelstrom Daggers(have Precise/Sharpened atm) and if so would you bother with Flurry?

Ye changing stuff all the time before you get used to is kind of annoying and will prolly result in plenty of deaths.
Interesting with the hunt set that it works with shades hahahah. Well if it works for you then its good hehe.
I would always use caltrops if i had the choice, its nice extra damage.

On NB I would ALWAYS use surprise attack, my SA crits for a stupid 21k sometimes its ridiculous, also it gives you Major Fracture.

Ahzek

@dwemer_paleologist I completed it on my stam sorc with less than 360 CP, so your argument seems kinda invalid ( unless you want the hardest endgame content in the game to be balanced around the weakest builds in the game).