Vet Maelstrom Arena makes me want to give up eso!

Reeko

Not really but it is dam close!

Been on the final boss for 3 hours now. I have to leave for work soon. Been up all night attempting this thing. I can consistently get him with 5% of his life but i just cannot seem to pull it off. With all the headache and near-broken controllers it has caused, i cannot see myself ever doing this again in the near future.

Over 100 tri-pots gone.
Over 100 Grand soulgems wasted.
Thousands of gold in repair.
Lost count of the amount of food buffs i have gone through.

I seriously feel like they made this with high champ point pc players in mind.

Now im not calling for a nerf, just sorta venting my frustration.

The agony is real folks!

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I have since finished vet maelstrom arena!
https://youtu.be/EN-x4W2JYrs

Arkadius

I feel you. It took me a multiple hours session to get to the last boss. But I simply couldn't beat him. Won't do this anytime soon again. I'm not asking for nerfs (even though some of the pre-boss fights are much harder than the actual boss fights), but I'm honestly asking for a possibility to save the progress for a while.

Sausage

Im gonna try tomorrow. Ive finished it on normal twice now, practices are over.

Catblade

I don't even have the resources in game to waste all that lol. Guess I better join a trade guild and make some gold first

TotterTates

Haha, day 1 (PC) on my stam DK was 12 hours before I gave up on the final boss for the night. Success came 5 days later. Hang in there!

Wollust

Considering how someone posted a deathless run with less than 280 cp or so, it's completely doable for lower cp people I'd say.

Reeko

I did it!

TotterTates

Congrats you filthy NB!

Nifty2g

Wollust wrote: »

Considering how someone posted a deathless run with less than 280 cp or so, it's completely doable for lower cp people I'd say.

For a sorcerer, sure

Reeko

I swear the worst stages were the ice one and the poison plants one. Fire one wasnt bad even as a vampire. Final stage omg fml!

timidobserver

It's a lot easier after the first time you down it. Go through it 2 more times and you'll be doing it in a couple of hours max.

Flak

First two times I went in I also got stuck on last boss. When you are too tired leave it for today, you will see that things go a lot faster after a couple of tries. Also, when you are not very experienced with this yet, use the sigils! Once you finished it a few times, you can try with less.

Islyn

Reeko wrote: »

Not really but it is dam close!

Been on the final boss for 3 hours now. I have to leave for work soon. Been up all night attempting this thing. I can consistently get him with 5% of his life but i just cannot seem to pull it off. With all the headache and near-broken controllers it has caused, i cannot see myself ever doing this again in the near future.

Over 100 tri-pots gone.
Over 100 Grand soulgems wasted.
Thousands of gold in repair.
Lost count of the amount of food buffs i have gone through.

I seriously feel like they made this with high champ point pc players in mind.

Now im not calling for a nerf, just sorta venting my frustration.

The agony is real folks!

generally, 9 - 18 foods in 9 hours. You're welcome! I'm afraid to even try it without respeccing all my stuff from healer stuff to dps stuff and a set of julianos and I just don't want the ach. That badly.

ZOS_GinaBruno

Reeko wrote: »

I did it!

Woohoo, congrats!

BalticBlues

People with a real life cannot play VMA, because RL can interfere anytime.
People can save their game in normal MA, why not in VMA?
What a waste of programming resources.

TheBull

I know someone who logged off TS, logged of the game, and has not been back after another non successful arena run.

Phinix1

The inability to save progress is really a terrible design. It might even be a lawsuit in the making.

Expecting players to sit for an average 2+ hours at a stretch goes against national health recommendations and could lead to DEATH by pulmonary embolism/deep vein thrombosis.

People get REALLY obsessive over completing stuff like this, especially when they lock things like cosmetic costumes behind it. ZOS needs to add a save progress option before they KILL someone. O.O

Tonycheung

How ZOS manage to screw up difficulty setting is beyond imagination

ssewallb14_ESO

It's only like that the first few times. My first try took me 6 hours, a stack of detection pots, and I don't even know how much gold in repairs. Next try was 4 hours. Now I can do it in 2 with 20 pots or less.

But honestly I was lucky that I had that 6 hours to sit down and complete it the first time. Because I had that time I was able to get a feel for the mechanics of the later fights, and improve to the point where I can complete it in a reasonable time frame. If the most time I ever had was a couple hours I doubt I would've even seen the last boss for months, or had any gold left to keep trying.

nimander99

Grats @Reeko ! Thats friggin awesome!

The Uninvited

Nifty2g wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

Considering how someone posted a deathless run with less than 280 cp or so, it's completely doable for lower cp people I'd say.

For a sorcerer, sure

Somebody just did a no-death run on a nightblade too. It wasn't me...

Frenkthevile

ZoS has two difficulty settings: WALK-IN-THE-PARK and HELL-ON-EARTH.

I play since launch on Pc, hava a Stam DK and Magika Templar: 1 is tank, the other healer. Not going to complete VMA ever in my life i guess...
After IC, another DLC focused on DDs, i'm losing hopes for this game...

OGLezard

Just think....their target time is 1.5 hours..........so unless you gear up like everyone else gg lolololol build diversity is dead in arena, and the time it takes to complete vs the pi55 rewards from rng, the arena is just horribad. Great concept love the arena, just fail implementation imo

TheBull

OGLezard wrote: »

Just think....their target time is 1.5 hours..........so unless you gear up like everyone else gg lolololol build diversity is dead in arena, and the time it takes to complete vs the pi55 rewards from rng, the arena is just horribad. Great concept love the arena, just fail implementation imo

I disagree with everything in bold, especially the part about build diversity. I've seen tanks doing 5k dps all the way to huge burst dps complete.

Master your style. The first complete is the hardest. The rest get easier. I do wish they'd up the neck and ring drop rate though.

OGLezard

TheBull wrote: »

OGLezard wrote: »

Just think....their target time is 1.5 hours..........so unless you gear up like everyone else gg lolololol build diversity is dead in arena, and the time it takes to complete vs the pi55 rewards from rng, the arena is just horribad. Great concept love the arena, just fail implementation imo

I disagree with everything in bold, especially the part about build diversity. I've seen tanks doing 5k dps all the way to huge burst dps complete.

Master your style. The first complete is the hardest. The rest get easier. I do wish they'd up the neck and ring drop rate though.

Is there something bugged with the drops on the neck and rings @TheBull ? I only say build diversity is dead because unless you min max your stats you are not completing it in a timely fashion let alone in a timely fashion to justify farming for any sets in there. 4 hours+ to get nothing but deconstruction mats =/= fun or rewarding and apparently zos thinks otherwise

pdebie64b16_ESO

Frenkthevile wrote: »

ZoS has two difficulty settings: WALK-IN-THE-PARK and HELL-ON-EARTH.

I play since launch on Pc, hava a Stam DK and Magika Templar: 1 is tank, the other healer. Not going to complete VMA ever in my life i guess...
After IC, another DLC focused on DDs, i'm losing hopes for this game...

If the road ahead is creating content only for the elite players i feel sorry for disabled or older players who cant compete anymore.

For the first time since release iam annoyed due the current state of vMSA, iam an older player and tried with three different classes all in legendary gear with capped cp and how hard i try i made it to stage four one time but my bottleneck is stage three. Didnt count the repair costs and gem stones i have wasted

For now i gave up and play lesser then i used to do, iam a min/maxer but the Maelstrom weapons are unreachable right now.

Iam a subsriber since day one, but if zos doesnt make it more accessable to a larger amount of players i cancel my sub.

Only solution: Change current vet mode to elite and bring in a vet mode more equal to current vet dungeons difficulty adjusted to solo play.

Phinix1

Frenkthevile wrote: »

ZoS has two difficulty settings: WALK-IN-THE-PARK and HELL-ON-EARTH.

pdebie64b16_ESO wrote: »

If the road ahead is creating content only for the elite players i feel sorry for disabled or older players who cant compete anymore.

I think ZOS takes their inspiration from watching those gamer challenge videos where savants speed-run Mario Brothers for charity donations. It's cool and all, I even enjoy watching it myself. But it is pretty unrealistic to expect to base a successful gaming franchise on tailoring content to that extreme a minority of the market.

Perhaps they are satisfied with the numbers they are pulling, and don't want to take on the hassle that comes with a more widely accessible and successful title like WoW. More subs/active accounts means more hardware demands means more Megaserver upgrades means more time spent optimizing...

Maybe they are happy to keep ESO as a sort of niche title for "elites" for the time being.

I don't really care I guess, other than when I run out of things to do that I enjoy I will just move on like anyone would. So far I am still finding things to do that are entertaining, and if they keep the schedule of DLC like Orsinium I will probably continue to sub for the foreseeable future, even though I have no interest in torturing myself mastering Ninja Gaidan rice paper MA moves.

I also find the whole "leader board" concept as a motivator to be rather uninspired, but then to each their own. I guess a lot of people are really interested in comparing numbers, which I guess hearkens back to the old arcade days, or something. But it just doesn't inspire me AT ALL.

usmcjdking

Yeah....

There isn't anything challenging to this. Just cheap gimmicky auto-fail mehanics. There is nothing in there that is reminiscent of the WEEKS I put into trying to beat Reawakened Alma on Master Ninja.

Personofsecrets

Reeko wrote: »

Not really but it is dam close!

Been on the final boss for 3 hours now. I have to leave for work soon. Been up all night attempting this thing. I can consistently get him with 5% of his life but i just cannot seem to pull it off. With all the headache and near-broken controllers it has caused, i cannot see myself ever doing this again in the near future.

Over 100 tri-pots gone.
Over 100 Grand soulgems wasted.
Thousands of gold in repair.
Lost count of the amount of food buffs i have gone through.

I seriously feel like they made this with high champ point pc players in mind.

Now im not calling for a nerf, just sorta venting my frustration.

The agony is real folks!

well, at least your not a tank!

Reeko

Video of final boss kill.
https://youtu.be/EN-x4W2JYrs

Dylanlucas

They should remove the whole leader board ***

VMSA for no lifers or people that make a job of this game (yah Deltianerd )

Not for people with jobs or kids.