MT / Shadow Walker v16?

blur

@ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @Wrobel @ZOS_RichLambert

I saw some chat in Cyrodiil recently that claimed you will be upgrading Morag Tong, Shadow Walker, Cyrodiil's Light, (including jewelry) and Martial Knowledge to v16 in an upcoming patch. Is this true? Or will you be doing other sets instead? Also will the MT/SW keep the same bonuses or will they be redesigned?



I really need to know if you plan on doing this. I really want to upgrade my gear but not knowing the answer to this is holding me back.
Currently for me to make a set of v16 gear (crafted) I need 940 Rubedo Leather/Silk. This is quite expensive and/or takes a long time to farm. Knowing whether or not these sets are getting upgraded will save a lot of us money and time.

Manoekin

blur wrote: »

@ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

I saw some chat in Cyrodiil recently that claimed you will be upgraded Morag Tong and Shadow Walker to v16 in an upcoming patch. Is this true? Or will you be doing other sets instead? Also will the MT/SW keep the same bonuses or will they be redesigned? If this is to happen what's the eta?

They hope to bring all PvP sets up to v16. I think the next major patch was when it might happen unless an issue comes up or something.

Abram

I think every set in the game should be available in V16, lets add some variety to some of these builds...

manny254

Abram wrote: »

I think every set in the game should be available in V16, lets add some variety to some of these builds...

Maybe not every set.

Rust_in_Peace

That set actually looks pretty neat and would be fun at VR16.

Jules

manny254 wrote: »

Abram wrote: »

I think every set in the game should be available in V16, lets add some variety to some of these builds...

Maybe not every set.

nope, definitely that one too. wtb v16

SHADOW2KK

Jules wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

Abram wrote: »

I think every set in the game should be available in V16, lets add some variety to some of these builds...

Maybe not every set.

nope, definitely that one too. wtb v16

Hehe aye, would be quite funny

daswahnsinn

Upgrading Morag Tong and Shadow Walker to v16, you'll see the same builds, just now they hit even harder than before. However, making all sets in the game available at v16 would definitely add more builds instead of the cookie cutters we have now.

ToRelax

manny254 wrote: »

Abram wrote: »

I think every set in the game should be available in V16, lets add some variety to some of these builds...

Maybe not every set.

From what I understand, that effect can only ever proc on one randomly chosen enemy due to the cd, and never effect an enemy more than half the time. It would be a nice set if it was more geared towards fighing larger numbers, like a 5% chance with no cd.

daswahnsinn wrote: »

Upgrading Morag Tong and Shadow Walker to v16, you'll see the same builds, just now they hit even harder than before. However, making all sets in the game available at v16 would definitely add more builds instead of the cookie cutters we have now.

Morag Tong and Shadow Walker would not make anyone hit harder.

blur

daswahnsinn wrote: »

Upgrading Morag Tong and Shadow Walker to v16, you'll see the same builds, just now they hit even harder than before. However, making all sets in the game available at v16 would definitely add more builds instead of the cookie cutters we have now.

Damage was reduced in PvP in the IC patch. Moreover newbies now get battleleveled which makes them even more resilient. Having some extra boom would be nice, after all, we will be sacrificing a ton of survivability and sustain to frontload weapon damage.
I do agree with you about sets. There are a ton of very cool sets that are low level only and see no use by those able to equip them. Opening up the gear to us would make a ton of options. I find it hilarious they platform off the "play it your way" crap when we really can't.




People I did not make this thread for you to come in and hijack or air your opinions. I have a question and I directed it to the people who can answer it. Please allow them to do so and desist from moving my thread away from it's purpose.
Thanks.

GRxKnight

If they come back im rolling back to a Stamina NB rocking 6k+ weapon damage

Waylander

It seems itemisation is one of the key draw cards of new dlc (and subsequent gear grind).

There will always be a new best in slot each dlc or they are not capitalising on one of the key factors driving sales.

I wish they wouldn't try to make the grind for the new best in slot so painfully boring with ridiculous amounts of materials required or skewed RNG trait drops.

I loved the hawkeye/ tong poison build, but if they still had it I doubt I'd be grinding materials to make one of the new sets.

Psilent

manny254 wrote: »

Abram wrote: »

I think every set in the game should be available in V16, lets add some variety to some of these builds...

Maybe not every set.

There is an AD Templar, very good templar, that used and or still might use this set. He's V16 and it was quite annoying when it would Proc. Can't imagine what it would be like if everyone was running around in it.

For once, I agree with you. Now, time to go drown myself in rum and forget this moment....

Tomato

Did they ninja nerf the drop rate for shadow walker rings?

GRxKnight

Swiift wrote: »

Did they ninja nerf the drop rate for shadow walker rings?

I don't know what you mean about drop rate, but I highly doubt people have been buying the coffers they come in since shadow walker is not best in slot at this point in time

Talcyndl

The bean counters at ZOS have determined that they have sucked enough DLC money from people who felt the need to farm IC and Wrothgar for VR16 gear. They can now add in the old gear at VR16 levels.

blur

@ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_JasonLeavey

Please answer my question.
Thanks.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

blur wrote: »

@ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_JasonLeavey

Please answer my question.
Thanks.

Make sure they also confirm that they are bringing back the JEWELRY that goes with those sets. ZOS likes to secretly remove jewelry from loot tables and never give an explanation. We are tired of the agility/willpower/endurance sets being the only (non-BOP) endgame jewelry in the game.

blur

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

blur wrote: »

@ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_JasonLeavey

Please answer my question.
Thanks.

Make sure they also confirm that they are bringing back the JEWELRY that goes with those sets. ZOS likes to secretly remove jewelry from loot tables and never give an explanation. We are tired of the agility/willpower/endurance sets being the only (non-BOP) endgame jewelry in the game.

@Xael asked this regarding the upcoming IC and the new VR 16 cap (if they were bringing them back) and they were evasive on purpose to avoid accountability and being called out. As we know, they deliberately did not add them to get people to buy Imperial City or subscribe so they will be bound to the Agi/End/Will and new dungeon drop sets. Notice the blatant evasion (http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2025658/#Comment_2025658). Only after launch did we find out these were not being brought back, not to mention players hoarding AP for months found out their AP trove was damn near useless.



@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @Wrobel @ZOS_RichLambert give us some clarity on the matter please.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

About a dozen item sets from Cyrodiil are being updated and re-released in the Rewards for the Worthy and Leaderboard reward mails, and they will be available at every Level and Veteran Rank (including VR 16). Another dozen or so Cyrodiil sets have had their statistics updated, but will not be included in those mails.

- From the thread you quoted.

Here is the translation.

We carefully picked some of the most boring sets that were used the least in PvP and we knew wouldn't compete with any of our new gear and made those the only ones available in the Rewards for the Worthy loot table. Anything with jewelry is being suppressed because we think we are Sauron and want to control everyone with rings.

Removal of Morag Tong, shadow walker, ravager, Dreugh King Slayer, Healers habit, footman set, and every other endgame set with Jewelry was cruel and uncalled for. It was ZOS listening to a terrible marketer and not the community.

I hate the agility, willpower, and endurance sets. Stop forcing them down our throats!

blur

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

About a dozen item sets from Cyrodiil are being updated and re-released in the Rewards for the Worthy and Leaderboard reward mails, and they will be available at every Level and Veteran Rank (including VR 16). Another dozen or so Cyrodiil sets have had their statistics updated, but will not be included in those mails.

- From the thread you quoted.

Here is the translation.

We carefully picked some of the most boring sets that were used the least in PvP and we knew wouldn't compete with any of our new gear and made those the only ones available in the Rewards for the Worthy loot table. Anything with jewelry is being suppressed because we think we are Sauron and want to control everyone with rings.

Removal of Morag Tong, shadow walker, ravager, Dreugh King Slayer, Healers habit, footman set, and every other endgame set with Jewelry was cruel and uncalled for. It was ZOS listening to a terrible marketer and not the community.

I hate the agility, willpower, and endurance sets. Stop forcing them down our throats!

@Yolokin_Swagonborn I do not hate the agil/wp/end sets. To be quite honest it's much easier than the random bags. You could easily spend a million AP on bags and get 1 piece of Shadow Walker and 0 MT. It was a nightmare. I do think though having both options (agil/wp/end + MT/SW, etc) makes for a lot more interesting builds.

I got a message from Brian Wheeler and he said @Wrobel "is in charge of the gear."

@Wrobel could you answer my above question?