VR/CP Take it or leave it?

jebuspowers

I was reading about the possible plan of converting vet ranks to cp and it sounds stupid. Also, the champion point system catch up sounds kind of dumb. I think there are better options though. At least for now, what do you guys think?

kupacmac

Ditch vet ranks, keep champion points

Not stupid at all. It is a major improvement to the current system.

Turelus

Abolish vet ranks and champion points

Get rid of them both and let's go back to having a story that levels you up to max and end game then a world of open content to do what you want, when you want and the way you want.

Spend time balancing and adjusting gear/skills each month to keep the meta changing rather than just upping the numbers every few months for people to just go get the same items but stronger.

There is no freedom or choice when not all item sets are of equal level and grinding for new sets every three months is the thing to do. You know in Guild Wars 1 I reached level 20 then spent months playing PvE and PvP for no reason other than to unlock rare looks for items or the enjoyment it gave me. At no point in the months of end game play did I say "man I wish there was more levels to grind or more powerful gear to replace the gear I spent ages farming any way..." I logged in, played what was fun and worked on rare/hard earned things because I enjoyed the gameplay.

Elijah_Crow

Ditch vet ranks, keep champion points

I hope you realize the Champion Point system was created as a replacement for veteran ranks. They only let them stay concurrent temporarily.

NewBlacksmurf

Ditch vet ranks, keep champion points

The whole outline isn't bad. Just the part where they are seemingly converting VR restrictions to CP restrictions.

To be honest....if that was the plan all along this transition should've been done when CP was added.

Big waste of this is all they are doing

Could not they have kept VR's and just made them account wide and the CP passives would be something we could choose for each VR in the same tree but without the small changes

Seems easier

terrordactyl1971

Ditch vet ranks, keep champion points

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

I hope you realize the Champion Point system was created as a replacement for veteran ranks. They only let them stay concurrent temporarily.

Which doesn't explain why they added 2 more with IC a couple of months back

Elijah_Crow

Ditch vet ranks, keep champion points

terrordactyl1971 wrote: »

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

I hope you realize the Champion Point system was created as a replacement for veteran ranks. They only let them stay concurrent temporarily.

Which doesn't explain why they added 2 more with IC a couple of months back

Because progression was needed and they weren't ready to fully convert to CP Ranked gear.

Xabien

Ditch vet ranks, keep champion points

Don't mind keeping CP for those who absolutely must have a numerical sense of progression - especially given, as someone pointed out to me earlier, they're account wide, so you only grind them once.

That said, I really, really do not want them linking gear to CP levels.

Artjuh90

Keep vet ranks, ditch champion points

terrordactyl1971 wrote: »

Elijah_Crow wrote: »

I hope you realize the Champion Point system was created as a replacement for veteran ranks. They only let them stay concurrent temporarily.

Which doesn't explain why they added 2 more with IC a couple of months back

to get any PvE player going there... haven't you seen the post about IC is dead now?

JD2013

Ditch vet ranks, keep champion points

Turelus wrote: »

Get rid of them both and let's go back to having a story that levels you up to max and end game then a world of open content to do what you want, when you want and the way you want.

Spend time balancing and adjusting gear/skills each month to keep the meta changing rather than just upping the numbers every few months for people to just go get the same items but stronger.

There is no freedom or choice when not all item sets are of equal level and grinding for new sets every three months is the thing to do. You know in Guild Wars 1 I reached level 20 then spent months playing PvE and PvP for no reason other than to unlock rare looks for items or the enjoyment it gave me. At no point in the months of end game play did I say "man I wish there was more levels to grind or more powerful gear to replace the gear I spent ages farming any way..." I logged in, played what was fun and worked on rare/hard earned things because I enjoyed the gameplay.

No. I'm sorry but no. I don't see the fun in having all content the same level as you and being able to do everything with no progression. That sounds insanely dull. I'm no big min/maxer player and having everyone equal etc sounds no challenge at all. I prefer working towards something as opposed to everything is equal.

Shadesofkin

Ditch vet ranks, keep champion points

I believe the health of the game is served better by the Champion System, even if I don't agree with every choice being optioned at this stage for the future.

Artjuh90

Keep vet ranks, ditch champion points

Shadesofkin wrote: »

I believe the health of the game is served better by the Champion System, even if I don't agree with every choice being optioned at this stage for the future.

the games health is beter of without cp actually. scaling will be imposseble, gaps will be bigger, bigger grind for new players and how are you going to adress the leveling in cadwell's silver and gold?

jebuspowers

Abolish vet ranks and champion points

Honestly, I don't understand veteran ranks. They are just levels just like 1-50. If you changed the ranks to regular levels past 50 no one could tell a difference. The champion points set hardcore players too far apart from the casual ones. I can appreciate the fact that people that play more should get more because that is fair. But there is an imbalance that I don't think will ever get resolved. Also, every mmo inevitably raises the max level of the players over time which means ditching vr's is pretty pointless anyway.