Weapon Ultimates

Detector

Please add weapon ultimates with physical damage (bow, 2h, duals, 1h+s) and magic damage (staff). Now all ultimates ability in game it's ONLY magic damage and it's bad for stamina-builds...

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert

Lynnessa

Ultimate damage scales off of your highest stat, if I'm not mistaken. So it doesn't matter whether you are magicka or stamina or what.

MrDerrikk

DK Dragon Leap?

Detector

Lynnessa wrote: »

Ultimate damage scales off of your highest stat, if I'm not mistaken. So it doesn't matter whether you are magicka or stamina or what.

I have stamina-build and 400 CP. I can not afford to spend Points to gain magical damage (+ 25%) in Champion System. I must strengthen physical damage for general abilitys. Magicka builds is such a problem does not have - they have magic damage for general abilitys and for ultimates ability. I want physical damage for general abilitys and for ultimates ability.

zornyan

Erm what? Even without thumatauge they still hit harder.

Soul assault tooltip damage on my magicka templar 37000

Soul assault tooltip on my stamina templar 41000

mr_wazzabi

Lynnessa wrote: »

Ultimate damage scales off of your highest stat, if I'm not mistaken. So it doesn't matter whether you are magicka or stamina or what.

That may be true, but they don't do PHYSICAL damage. All ultimates deal either magic or elemental damage, not physical, meaning the champion point bonus "mighty" does not buff ultimates.

This makes ultimates much more useful for magicka characters.

laksikus

Detector wrote: »

Lynnessa wrote: »

Ultimate damage scales off of your highest stat, if I'm not mistaken. So it doesn't matter whether you are magicka or stamina or what.

I have stamina-build and 400 CP. I can not afford to spend Points to gain magical damage (+ 25%) in Champion System. I must strengthen physical damage for general abilitys. Magicka builds is such a problem does not have - they have magic damage for general abilitys and for ultimates ability. I want physical damage for general abilitys and for ultimates ability.

pls tell that to magicka users.
some classes have to spend points for elemental damage and magic damage. all you ahve to do is give all points in phsyical damage.

first give magicka users 1 cp for all magic/elemantal damage + a armor passive that increases our spell damage.
then you can start to whine

laksikus

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

Lynnessa wrote: »

Ultimate damage scales off of your highest stat, if I'm not mistaken. So it doesn't matter whether you are magicka or stamina or what.

That may be true, but they don't do PHYSICAL damage. All ultimates deal either magic or elemental damage, not physical, meaning the champion point bonus "mighty" does not buff ultimates.

This makes ultimates much more useful for magicka characters.

same to you. magicka users have to do elemantal+magic in cp to get what you get form physical damage.
that effects some ultis as well...

mr_wazzabi

laksikus wrote: »

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

Lynnessa wrote: »

Ultimate damage scales off of your highest stat, if I'm not mistaken. So it doesn't matter whether you are magicka or stamina or what.

That may be true, but they don't do PHYSICAL damage. All ultimates deal either magic or elemental damage, not physical, meaning the champion point bonus "mighty" does not buff ultimates.

This makes ultimates much more useful for magicka characters.

same to you. magicka users have to do elemantal+magic in cp to get what you get form physical damage.
that effects some ultis as well...

At least you can buff an ultimate in the first place.

Also, templars and magicka nb do mainly magic damage, so almost no templars or nb will put cp into elemental expert. That makes their ultimates truly deadly with 100cp in thaumaturge.

laksikus

so can you. spend some points in magic damage.
tempalr have a skill thats flame damage
and as magicka nb use flame staffs for weaving, so does meteor ice/fire damage.
still have to spend points in elemental for that.

so stamina user shouldnt whine about having to spend some points in a second cp....

especially since magic users dont ahve a armor passive that increases spell damage

mr_wazzabi

laksikus wrote: »

so can you. spend some points in magic damage.
tempalr have a skill thats flame damage
and as magicka nb use flame staffs for weaving, so does meteor ice/fire damage.
still have to spend points in elemental for that.

so stamina user shouldnt whine about having to spend some points in a second cp....

especially since magic users dont ahve a armor passive that increases spell damage

Correction. Templars have A SKILL that deals fire damage. 1 skill.

Most smart magicka nb probably use resto staff for weaving as resto staff does magic damage. Also the heavy attack regen is much better than destro.

Templars and magicka nb have no need for destructive touch and impulse as they have their own melee, ranged and aoe attacks, all which do magic damage.

Now about magicka dk. Most of their skills are elemental, so they throw 100cp into elemental expert and profit. Corrosive armour and dragon standard with 100cp in ele exp? Vampires die!!!

laksikus

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

laksikus wrote: »

so can you. spend some points in magic damage.
tempalr have a skill thats flame damage
and as magicka nb use flame staffs for weaving, so does meteor ice/fire damage.
still have to spend points in elemental for that.

so stamina user shouldnt whine about having to spend some points in a second cp....

especially since magic users dont ahve a armor passive that increases spell damage

Correction. Templars have A SKILL that deals fire damage. 1 skill.

Most smart magicka nb probably use resto staff for weaving as resto staff does magic damage. Also the heavy attack regen is much better than destro.

Templars and magicka nb have no need for destructive touch and impulse as they have their own melee, ranged and aoe attacks, all which do magic damage.

no corection there, as i said that.
most smart nb in PVE dont heavy attack anyway so no regen at all.
and i know no nb that uses restro in pve at all.
and even in PVP there are a lot nb that use a destro for the burst
an my flame glyph does fire damage



so does meteor one of the strongest ultimates.

laksikus

double post

mr_wazzabi

laksikus wrote: »

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

laksikus wrote: »

so can you. spend some points in magic damage.
tempalr have a skill thats flame damage
and as magicka nb use flame staffs for weaving, so does meteor ice/fire damage.
still have to spend points in elemental for that.

so stamina user shouldnt whine about having to spend some points in a second cp....

especially since magic users dont ahve a armor passive that increases spell damage

Correction. Templars have A SKILL that deals fire damage. 1 skill.

Most smart magicka nb probably use resto staff for weaving as resto staff does magic damage. Also the heavy attack regen is much better than destro.

Templars and magicka nb have no need for destructive touch and impulse as they have their own melee, ranged and aoe attacks, all which do magic damage.

no corection there, as i said that.
most smart nb dont heavy attack anyway so no regen at all. the dot it does is fire damage. as does the LA (not sure).
but my flame glyph does too.

so does meteor one of the strongest ultimates.

The only reason a magicka nb might want ele exp is meteor. No they don't heavy attack as they're mostly melee and use dw. Resto light attack is magic damage. I don't know what the dot is that you speak of (unless you're talking about templar's only elemental skill).

Also, for the enchant, you can use poison glyph, which is buffed by thaum

laksikus

so you say there arent any magicka nb in pvp that use destro staff? lol
there are tons of destro nb users^^

and in PVE you wont see a nb without inferno staff

what glyph would i take for my second dw? disease?
inferno is better in pve

Personofsecrets

Sword + Board = dmg mitigation/block cost reduction while slotted.

mr_wazzabi

laksikus wrote: »

so you say there arent any magicka nb in pvp that use destro staff? lol
there are tons of destro nb users^^

and in PVE you wont see a nb without inferno staff

No, but I wouldn't worry about buffing the dmg from light attacks. When i die to a magicka nb, it's always:

Swallow soul
Soul tether
Soul harvest
Concealed weapon
Impale
Sap essense

All magic damage. I never see magica nb hit me with destro clench or impulse.

laksikus

so only that is valid?
im pretty sure i know palyers that use that. myself included.
nothing funnier than HA>cripple->destructive reach -> dead

mr_wazzabi

For the record, the best magicka nb's i've fought all use dw/resto staff.

mr_wazzabi

laksikus wrote: »

so only that is valid?
im pretty sure i know palyers that use that. myself included.
nothing funnier than HA>cripple->destructive reach -> dead

Not saying that.

But what this shows is that magic characters have more choices for cp buffs, while being able to buff ultimates AND regular skills is guaranteed.
Stamina classes don't have this luxury, so weapon ultimates that do physical damage are more than welcome.
Who wouldn't want a 2h ulimate where you swirl around in a tornado and kill everything?

laksikus

for the record.
one of the best healers i worked with was a nb.
means you can do nearly everything

there are nb out there with destro, with dw and with 2h. no need to reduce them all to dw to win an argument about stamina users not favored by cp and passives in means of damage