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A calm list of annoyances I've noticed since Orsinium drop

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- Skills get stuck every so often. By this I mean everything except weapon swapping. I can't use skills, I can't roll dodge, I can't sprint. After about a minute or two it fixes itself and starts working again. Happened during a fight and all I could do was run around and weapon swap. It wouldn't even allow me to block.
- Combat in general seems clunkier than before. I'm not sure what it is, but things just aren't as smooth. Weapon swapping is a little slower and I can't cast anything the second I swap. I have to wait.
- Random disconnections. Like, there won't even be any lag and I will just be dropped to the login screen without notice. Thought I'd go test out the new battle levelling changes and it logged me out half way through a resource fight. When this happens it takes 2 or 3 attempts before I'm allowed back in. It logs me in, then takes me straight back to the login screen after a short loading screen.
- Zero stamina regen while sneaking. This could be a bug, I'm not sure. If it's not, I have to ask, do you hate stamina users?

Pretty much it from me for now. If anyone has found anything else or has solutions, please feel free to drop a comment.
  • Jura23
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    About stamina thing. Happened to me today, but once I stop crouching, my stam went to max instantly.
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  • Spacemonkey
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    Not sure but could it just be lag (more stress) on servers since everyones downloading orsinium?
  • Alucardo
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    Jura23 wrote: »
    About stamina thing. Happened to me today, but once I stop crouching, my stam went to max instantly.
    Yeah it just seems to be while sneaking, though somebody also said it happened to them while sprinting, but I can't confirm that one.
  • Farorin
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    The skills locking is happening to me a lot, as well as weird, but short, spikes in lag occasionally (no disconnects yet though apart from the first time I tried entering Wrothgar).

    I haven't noticed the stam regen thing, but I haven't checked either, I will keep an eye out for it.
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    Not sure but could it just be lag (more stress) on servers since everyones downloading orsinium?
    Totally possible. Funnily enough, the PvP campaign was fuller than Wrothgar. Haven't seen huge fights on both sides like that in a long time.
  • Unstable.Pixel
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    I thought I heard it was a "bug" that was fixed. You still regen stamina in stealth but only if you're not moving. I didn't see it in the patch notes so I'm not sure if it was intended or not.

    I get the random login screen boots quite a bit too, mostly during loading screens if I jump to 2-3 different areas.
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  • Alucardo
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    Farorin wrote: »
    The skills locking is happening to me a lot, as well as weird, but short, spikes in lag occasionally (no disconnects yet though apart from the first time I tried entering Wrothgar).

    I haven't noticed the stam regen thing, but I haven't checked either, I will keep an eye out for it.
    Hmm, maybe I'm getting short lag spikes too, which is causing the combat to feel clunky. Movement and positioning is totally fine, but combat in general just feels really delayed
  • Salmonoid
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    No regen while sneaking is intended, it came out with IC. It was bugged and still showed your stats, now it is fixed and displays 0 accordingly.
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  • Alucardo
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    Salmonoid wrote: »
    No regen while sneaking is intended, it came out with IC. It was bugged and still showed your stats, now it is fixed and displays 0 accordingly.
    Can you please point me to the patch notes where it described this? I seemed to have missed it. Seriously, I'm pretty interested.
  • FailSaucePro
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    Equip a sword and shield then swap the sword out for a bow. Tada! You can now use bow abilities and still have the shield count towards set bonuses (shield skills don't work though). This is the most annoying thing to me so far because you have to drag and drop another item on to the shield to remove it from the slot.
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    Equip a sword and shield then swap the sword out for a bow. Tada! You can now use bow abilities and still have the shield count towards set bonuses (shield skills don't work though). This is the most annoying thing to me so far because you have to drag and drop another item on to the shield to remove it from the slot.
    Lol wow, that is definitely insightful to say the least
  • JamilaRaj
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    - Skills get stuck every so often. By this I mean everything except weapon swapping. I can't use skills, I can't roll dodge, I can't sprint. After about a minute or two it fixes itself and starts working again. Happened during a fight and all I could do was run around and weapon swap. It wouldn't even allow me to block.

    One possible cause of stuck skills is pressing and releasing shift/sprint quickly after using some skill, i.e. while animation plays. You then can not use skills etc. until you press/release shift again.
    Not that it is the only possible cause, but it is my favourite because it can be easily reproduced.

  • Alucardo
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    JamilaRaj wrote: »

    One possible cause of stuck skills is pressing and releasing shift/sprint quickly after using some skill, i.e. while animation plays. You then can not use skills etc. until you press/release shift again.
    Not that it is the only possible cause, but it is my favourite because it can be easily reproduced.
    Cool thanks for the info. I'll try and replicate this next time I'm on.
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Salmonoid wrote: »
    No regen while sneaking is intended, it came out with IC. It was bugged and still showed your stats, now it is fixed and displays 0 accordingly.
    Can you please point me to the patch notes where it described this? I seemed to have missed it. Seriously, I'm pretty interested.

    It's not in the patch notes. Although I do recall back in the day - this was normal. The point was so you had to stop moving to regain stamina and couldn't stealth forever. I also recall seeing it reported as a bug (months ago) that you would now regain stamina while sneaking.

    Unfortunately, I'm feeling lazy right now, so I'm not going to dig for posts.. but it's what I recall.

    As for if it was actually confirmed by ZOS that the sudden stamina rejen while sneaking was actually a bug - I don't think so. Although we tend to assume (haha, yup) that it's a bug as that's not how it worked previous - and wasn't noted in the notes.

    Although I guess that's the predicament again :/ So... good luck. I'm not even sure if it's a bug, or a big fix, anymore.
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    It's not in the patch notes. Although I do recall back in the day - this was normal. The point was so you had to stop moving to regain stamina and couldn't stealth forever. I also recall seeing it reported as a bug (months ago) that you would now regain stamina while sneaking.

    Unfortunately, I'm feeling lazy right now, so I'm not going to dig for posts.. but it's what I recall.

    As for if it was actually confirmed by ZOS that the sudden stamina rejen while sneaking was actually a bug - I don't think so. Although we tend to assume (haha, yup) that it's a bug as that's not how it worked previous - and wasn't noted in the notes.

    Although I guess that's the predicament again :/ So... good luck. I'm not even sure if it's a bug, or a big fix, anymore.
    Thanks for the clarification :)
    I wouldn't mind the nerf so much if it was intended, if they'd just let us know before dropping it in there unannounced.
  • ontheleftcoast
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    - Skills get stuck every so often. By this I mean everything except weapon swapping. I can't use skills, I can't roll dodge, I can't sprint. After about a minute or two it fixes itself and starts working again. Happened during a fight and all I could do was run around and weapon swap. It wouldn't even allow me to block.

    I've been able to get this to happen fairly reliably a couple of different ways

    1) Use caltrops on a mob then Templar gap closer -- skills locked 10-20% of the time
    2) From horse back use various single target attacks -- much rarer, 1 time in 20 or less

    Both are "cured" if I manage to dodge roll about half the time. Otherwise I have to either die (which happens all too often fighting mobs of VR16 monsters) or if I can get to a door and escape.

    Both happened very rarely before Orsinium but since the patch they're much, much more common.


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    Templar freezing has been a problem since Beta and Early Access. I wish they'd just change up the animation and make it like a golden Ambush from heaven so the problem would go away.
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  • JamilaRaj
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    - Skills get stuck every so often. By this I mean everything except weapon swapping. I can't use skills, I can't roll dodge, I can't sprint. After about a minute or two it fixes itself and starts working again. Happened during a fight and all I could do was run around and weapon swap. It wouldn't even allow me to block.

    I've been able to get this to happen fairly reliably a couple of different ways

    1) Use caltrops on a mob then Templar gap closer -- skills locked 10-20% of the time
    2) From horse back use various single target attacks -- much rarer, 1 time in 20 or less

    Both are "cured" if I manage to dodge roll about half the time. Otherwise I have to either die (which happens all too often fighting mobs of VR16 monsters) or if I can get to a door and escape.

    I assume you are talking about PvE, because death in Cyrodiil is another common cause of stuck skills (and it is generally hard to get killed by mobs/NPCs there).
  • pirate3
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    I had the random disconnect for the first time - game froze during combat, kicked me out to the login screen, I logged back in, was kicked right back out. Character was dead when I logged back in. I logged out.

    The game does seem less fluid than before. On the plus side, I haven't fallen out of the sky since the patch. The game has evidently found a new way to kill me.

    I'm a patient guy for the most part. I played VSoH at launch and was never too put out by its bugs. But I think maybe I need to go play something else for a while.
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    pirate3 wrote: »
    On the plus side, I haven't fallen out of the sky since the patch. The game has evidently found a new way to kill me.
    Actually this hasn't happened to me either since the update. Fingers crossed it has been fixed, or at least reduced to a minimum.

  • DannyLV702
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    I am so confused, that's been happening to me today and I'm on PS4.......doesn't make sense. It's the first time i've experienced these problems.
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    Templar freezing has been a problem since Beta and Early Access. I wish they'd just change up the animation and make it like a golden Ambush from heaven so the problem would go away.

    Being shot down from the sky in a big golden beam of light. Sorry, my mind just went wild.

    Back down to Nirn. Yeah, my skills are locking up frequently and still taking damage. Frequent FPS drops as well in Cyrodiil (not lag).
    Edited by WillhelmBlack on November 4, 2015 9:51AM
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  • Cherryblossom
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    - Skills get stuck every so often. By this I mean everything except weapon swapping. I can't use skills, I can't roll dodge, I can't sprint. After about a minute or two it fixes itself and starts working again. Happened during a fight and all I could do was run around and weapon swap. It wouldn't even allow me to block.

    I've noticed this bug in the game since more or less launch! Seems a little worse now.
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    I've noticed this bug in the game since more or less launch! Seems a little worse now.
    Ah right. I've only noticed it since the recent update, so thought it must have been tied in with that. A friend I was grouping with had the same issue right after me, and said it was the first time she had seen it too.
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    Zero stamina regen while sneaking. This could be a bug, I'm not sure. If it's not, I have to ask, do you hate stamina users?

    This is not a bug, it was previously a bug that you had stam regen while sneaking
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  • Itoq
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    These issues are nearly as old and occur as often as time itself. 'Tis interesting that you did not experience them before.
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    Itoq wrote: »
    These issues are nearly as old and occur as often as time itself. 'Tis interesting that you did not experience them before.
    Nope, can honestly say I haven't. I've only included the things I noticed since the drop
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