Where's the fire??

Sting864

Is there an advantage to rushing through content during a quest? In delves, there is no time bonus, right? I believe looting is still a thing in dungeons, and listening to the amazing voice acting is smart, as it almost always provides the answer to any upcoming puzzle... In addition, I have found that reading the books in the quest doesn't just give one hints or clues to the puzzle in the quest, it gives the answer...
If there was a bonus given for quick time, I could understand ignoring the majority of the great parts, which were a focus of ESO's work, and a huge selling point. But I think that is what trials are for...
"Dude, if I rush through real fast, it means I'm a 'Power Gamer...'" No, it means that you're Ignoring clues, Answers and materials (I realize some people, I included, do not want to do crafts, but raw materials are plentiful... and crafted items are worth gold, and gold is gold...)
"Dude, that's my play style..." Pretty much all players have a style, and pretty much all players want to improve their style. I'm here to help. If you think that play style makes you look good; just stop... it doesn't.

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Sting864

Is "bumping" topics to keep them timely a thing here?

AshTal

No reason to rush any of the quests.

I really like listening to the NPC's talk, reading the notes and books which have reference to what I am doing and taking the quests slow.

Only problem is sometimes I get a note or conversation and its a week till I meet the person it was about and by then I have forgotten. However if I rushed through wouldn't have read it and so no loss.

I sometimes wish they put more in that stopped people rushing through but some people wil always try and power level and complete the content as quickly as possible just to post on the forum they did it.

Egonieser

I've done the content on 3 chars from bottom to top. Why on god's green earth would i want to stop and read dialogues and notes when i can almost recite them from heart, while leveling my 4th?
Your [snip] thinking needs to be readjusted, there are people with alts, people who have done it before countless times, and they just want to get over with it as it has become boring and stale.
So, no. People who rush can very damn well do so if they please, if you don't want to, your choice.
Don't enforce your preferences on others.

I've got 4 alts, some people have 7-8 and some have multiple accounts, so think before you whine.

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Sithisvoid

Looting is completely worthless until max level and even then it's pretty meh. All you get is vendor trash unless in a group dungeon or trials and even then meh. Besides why do you care how others play?

Shunravi

It took me months to level my first character. I listened to everything, read everything, explored everywhere. On my alts, not so much. Speed through everything because I already know it.

Then there are those who genuinely don't care, as is their right.

People play different than you. Deal with it.

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Tyrix

There's this saying which suits right in threads like this which is: To each of his own.

I'm new to Eso and currently lvl 50, all I wanna do is get to vr16 as fast as possible so I can enjoy the endgame and truely develope myself as a tank by practising in the tougheter content etc, meaning i rush through everything until then.

Sure I do enjoy the story and the rpg which lies in Eso, but i enjoy more to take on hard challenges and ultimately master them.

Sting864

Egonieser wrote: »

I've done the content on 3 chars from bottom to top. Why on god's green earth would i want to stop and read dialogues and notes when i can almost recite them from heart, while leveling my 4th?
Your [snip] thinking needs to be readjusted, there are people with alts, people who have done it before countless times, and they just want to get over with it as it has become boring and stale.
So, no. People who rush can very damn well do so if they please, if you don't want to, your choice.
Don't enforce your preferences on others.

I've got 4 alts, some people have 7-8 and some have multiple accounts, so think before you whine.

Hmmm... So either you did Not rush through on your first time through, so you agree with me.... Or you've never read, or listened... which means you have no idea....
Stop whining that people point out how [snip]silly it is to rush through content. Just know that by rushing through content, you split the party... a big no-no... which results in dungeons taking a longer time for you to clear solo... which is counter-intuitive to your "play-style..."
"People can damn well do so if they wish, your choice..." If you rush ahead, it will take you longer to finish... that's not what you wish, is it? If you rush ahead, you defeat the purpose of going in as a party which is not what any of the people who joined the group wish... What makes you think that you're good enough to dictate "style" of play for others?? If that's the case, you can start your own group... Don't harsh my buzz, Dude....

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Forestd16b14_ESO

The only reason I see to rush in dungeons and all that is for the time achievement. After that IDK why rush it or even skip bosses. Like I know this mini boss isn't part of the Undaunted pledge but can we still do it for EXP, Gold, Loot and so on.

Theodorus

I think what another poster said: the seventh or eighth time you've run a quest or a delve you pretty much just want to get through it and move on.

Why then (you ask) am I leveling my seventh alt through content that I find boring and repetitious? I agree that's kind of mental, but then, playing an MMO in the first place is a little eccentric.

Ask my wife.

Serious answer to my own question: I've been playing MMOs since the EQ beta, and during that time I've created a stable full of characters that mean something to me, and that I want to 'import' into my current game of choice. So I have my main, who's a righteous holy cleric, his half-breed elven daughter, his evil brother the dark sorcerer, etc.

A whole MMO family inside my own head. The only way to give these people lives of their own is to either play LotRO forever or grind some TESO levels.

Anyway, when you see me blowing through a delve with my level 36 wood elf, don't assume I don't care about game content and am just trying to get max level as fast as possible.

I'm just another crazy person trapped in alt Hell.

Sting864

Tyrix wrote: »

There's this saying which suits right in threads like this which is: To each of his own.

I'm new to Eso and currently lvl 50, all I wanna do is get to vr16 as fast as possible so I can enjoy the endgame and truely develope myself as a tank by practising in the tougheter content etc, meaning i rush through everything until then.

Sure I do enjoy the story and the rpg which lies in Eso, but i enjoy more to take on hard challenges and ultimately master them.

There's also a saying, in this very game, in fact....

"The only fish that go where the waters flow are the dead ones..."

Tyrix

Sting864 wrote: »

Tyrix wrote: »

There's this saying which suits right in threads like this which is: To each of his own.

I'm new to Eso and currently lvl 50, all I wanna do is get to vr16 as fast as possible so I can enjoy the endgame and truely develope myself as a tank by practising in the tougheter content etc, meaning i rush through everything until then.

Sure I do enjoy the story and the rpg which lies in Eso, but i enjoy more to take on hard challenges and ultimately master them.

There's also a saying, in this very game, in fact....

"The only fish that go where the waters flow are the dead ones..."

Not everyone enjoys your type of play style, get over it.

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sadownik

Sting864 wrote: »

Tyrix wrote: »

There's this saying which suits right in threads like this which is: To each of his own.

I'm new to Eso and currently lvl 50, all I wanna do is get to vr16 as fast as possible so I can enjoy the endgame and truely develope myself as a tank by practising in the tougheter content etc, meaning i rush through everything until then.

Sure I do enjoy the story and the rpg which lies in Eso, but i enjoy more to take on hard challenges and ultimately master them.

There's also a saying, in this very game, in fact....

"The only fish that go where the waters flow are the dead ones..."

There is another saying "Some people like chocolate, others when their feet smell"

Sting864

Tyrix wrote: »

Sting864 wrote: »

Tyrix wrote: »

There's this saying which suits right in threads like this which is: To each of his own.

I'm new to Eso and currently lvl 50, all I wanna do is get to vr16 as fast as possible so I can enjoy the endgame and truely develope myself as a tank by practising in the tougheter content etc, meaning i rush through everything until then.

Sure I do enjoy the story and the rpg which lies in Eso, but i enjoy more to take on hard challenges and ultimately master them.

There's also a saying, in this very game, in fact....

"The only fish that go where the waters flow are the dead ones..."

Not everyone enjoys your type of play style, get over it.

Funny, I've never heard that... I'm sure the original author of that saying new that the third person singular form of the verb "to be" (that would be "is"...) should agree with the plural subject (people)...

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Tyrix

Sting864 wrote: »

Tyrix wrote: »

Sting864 wrote: »

Tyrix wrote: »

There's this saying which suits right in threads like this which is: To each of his own.

I'm new to Eso and currently lvl 50, all I wanna do is get to vr16 as fast as possible so I can enjoy the endgame and truely develope myself as a tank by practising in the tougheter content etc, meaning i rush through everything until then.

Sure I do enjoy the story and the rpg which lies in Eso, but i enjoy more to take on hard challenges and ultimately master them.

There's also a saying, in this very game, in fact....

"The only fish that go where the waters flow are the dead ones..."

There's also this saying: narrow sighted people who wants to force their opinion on others is pathetic.

Not everyone enjoys your type of play style, get over it.

Funny, I've never heard that... I'm sure the original author of that saying new that the singular form of the verb "to be" (that would be "is"...) should agree with the plural subject (people)...

Knew*

get rekt and get over it.

ZOS_Racheal

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UrQuan

Tyrix wrote: »

Sting864 wrote: »

Tyrix wrote: »

There's this saying which suits right in threads like this which is: To each of his own.

I'm new to Eso and currently lvl 50, all I wanna do is get to vr16 as fast as possible so I can enjoy the endgame and truely develope myself as a tank by practising in the tougheter content etc, meaning i rush through everything until then.

Sure I do enjoy the story and the rpg which lies in Eso, but i enjoy more to take on hard challenges and ultimately master them.

There's also a saying, in this very game, in fact....

"The only fish that go where the waters flow are the dead ones..."

Not everyone enjoys your type of play style, get over it.

Quoted for truth.

The first time I'm doing a quest or a piece of content I take my time, read things, listen to all of the dialogue. After the first time I usually rush through it, unless I'm exploring a different red dialogue option, or don't remember exactly what the story is and want to remind myself. When I'm grouped with other people, I let them do the same if they want to, even if I've done the content a dozen times already.

What I don't try to do is force other people to play the same way as me. People are allowed to play however they like, and nobody should try to dictate to others how they should play. Not everyone likes the same things, and considers the same things important, and that's OK.

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Tyrix

UrQuan wrote: »

Tyrix wrote: »

Sting864 wrote: »

Tyrix wrote: »

There's this saying which suits right in threads like this which is: To each of his own.

I'm new to Eso and currently lvl 50, all I wanna do is get to vr16 as fast as possible so I can enjoy the endgame and truely develope myself as a tank by practising in the tougheter content etc, meaning i rush through everything until then.

Sure I do enjoy the story and the rpg which lies in Eso, but i enjoy more to take on hard challenges and ultimately master them.

There's also a saying, in this very game, in fact....

"The only fish that go where the waters flow are the dead ones..."

There's also this saying: narrow sighted people who wants to force their opinion on others are pathetic.

Not everyone enjoys your type of play style, get over it.

Quoted for truth.

The first time I'm doing a quest or a piece of content I take my time, read things, listen to all of the dialogue. After the first time I usually rush through it, unless I'm exploring a different red dialogue option, or don't remember exactly what the story is and want to remind myself. When I'm grouped with other people, I let them do the same if they want to, even if I've done the content a dozen times already.

What I don't try to do is force other people to play the same way as me. People are allowed to play however they like, and nobody should try to dictate to others how they should play. Not everyone likes the same things, and considers the same things important, and that's OK.

The later part is exactly what i'm telling the TS.

Sting864

ZOS_Racheal wrote: »

Hi, everyone. We understand that people are going to disagree from time to time, but please remember to keep your comments respectful at all times on our forums, even when you disagree with others. Insults or other disruptive behavior do not help further discussion and can move a thread off topic quickly. We encourage sharing opinions, but we ask that they are constructively stated when doing so, as this will help keep the discussion on track. Thank you!

There was no intent by the OP to diss anyone's playstyle, I was merely asking if there was a time bonus for rushing through non-trial dungeons. I am not forcing my playstyle on anyone. I'm merely asking a question and pointing-out the futility of ignoring some of the FEATURES that make ZOS great. If someone can explain how rushing through is a good thing, please do...

nimander99

This is why I only have a couple people I ever party up with, I refuse to rush content that's so well done and has such awesome voice acting /story telling.

Tyrix

Sting864 wrote: »

ZOS_Racheal wrote: »

Hi, everyone. We understand that people are going to disagree from time to time, but please remember to keep your comments respectful at all times on our forums, even when you disagree with others. Insults or other disruptive behavior do not help further discussion and can move a thread off topic quickly. We encourage sharing opinions, but we ask that they are constructively stated when doing so, as this will help keep the discussion on track. Thank you!

There was no intent by the OP to diss anyone's playstyle, I was merely asking if there was a time bonus for rushing through non-trial dungeons. I am not forcing my playstyle on anyone. I'm merely asking a question and pointing-out the futility of ignoring some of the FEATURES that make ZOS great. If someone can explain how rushing through is a good thing, please do...

There's a bunch of posts that explain it to you already, along with my first post which you for some reason took as an insult.

You just chose to ignore them since they didnt give you the back patting you were fishing for.

Digerati

If it takes me 5 minutes to get through a quest that takes you 10, and would that make the second quest I've done at 5 minutes pure bonus points?



A lot of people are only here for Cyrodiil and other PvP content... Questing is boring and tedious and we have little interest in the story. Go here, push E, go there, push E, kill things, leave and go push E.

I push a lot of E... I haven't found any puzzles or quests that I couldn't get through by just pushing E...

OtarTheMad

I have done the quests a few times, obviously by my sig, and while the storylines are interesting the first two times through, by the fourth and fifth time... you just want it over with, especially since I am more of a PvPer.

lathbury

I'm guessing the op doesnt have many v16 alts

failkiwib16_ESO

I only do the main quests on my 3rd and 4th chars, to get to Cadwells Gold areas and be able to grind in peace.

Honestly to each their own. If you like questing, that is your thing - I lvl up my other chars to play with my v16 friends and guildies with a different class and role in endgame content.

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Pros and Cons with questing
Pros:
*You get a better understanding of the different races and cultures.
*The main quest + faction quests lead you to unlock Cadwells Silver and Gold, which provides you access to more skillpoints, lorebooks and skyshards.
*You get to experience the stories, and although a lot of them are repetitive, some of them are really good.
*You also get to see different towns, countries and areas which can be beautiful and nice.
*You play through the game you have payed for!
Cons:
*It takes a long time.
*It becomes repetitive.
*It gets boring if you have already run through it with one char.
*It is not rewarding enough in terms of loot and your economy will run slower.

Pros and Cons with Grinding
Pros:
*You get to lvl up very fast.
*It is more rewarding in terms of economy.
*It is specially good if you want to lvl up in enchanting, woodworking, clothing and blacksmithing - since you get items very fast you can deconstruct.
Cons:
*You don't get access to Cadwells Silver and Gold, and thus miss out on skillpoints, lorebooks and skyshards.
*You will not be able to buy white glyphs and potions from vendors, and is forced to buy them from other players who sells them - because you don't have access to veteran areas, to buy those glyphs and potions.
*In case you grind up your first char, then you will miss out on stories, lore and basic knowledge of the game.
*In case you grind up your first char, you will not be able to compete or play with others of your own level, because you are hopelessly behind in terms of gear and knowledge of the game. People make less friends at grindspots than they do while they quest - so you will also lack a network where you can get advice and help from.

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My recomendation to new players would be:
*Avoid stamina builds, ZOS have a bias for magicka builds, and once you are fully lvl'ed, to be able to compete and play with others at your level, you will have to pay much more for your gear.
*Do all quests and singleplayer content possible on your first char. Take your time with quests, exploring and picking materials.
*Spend gold on lvl'ing speed and inventory on your mount, lastly go for feeding your horse with stamina (you don't need to have a horse to be able to lvl them up). Buy a mount once you can afford one. Upgrade your inventory and bank.
*If you have one char already max lvl'ed, and want to lvl up a new one fast by grinding - then at least do the faction quests + main story to get access better grindspots, Cadwells Silver and Gold - to get to all the lorebooks and skyshards and skillpoints.

Prabooo

AshTal wrote: »

I sometimes wish they put more in that stopped people rushing through but some people wil always try and power level and complete the content as quickly as possible just to post on the forum they did it.

Not true. I rush thru content 'cause I choose however I want to play instead of following YOUR "play style". Respect is a two way highroad.

PBpsy

Sure I will listen to the awesome VA the 200th time I do the dungeon....As a matter of fact ... Look It's Mereel!'

F7sus4

Sting864 wrote: »

"Dude, that's my play style..." Pretty much all players have a style

You're not a player then.

danno8

I played SWTOR for a bit last week during the extended downtime. Haven't played it in probably a solid year. I forgot how much better the cinematics and voice-over work is. Even the music during the cut-scenes is in step with what is happening. It's very well done.

My point is that even with really good voice-over/cinematics, the quests themselves are completely predictable for the most part and only a scarce few contain anything surprising over worth listening to. There is simply no real plot depth to "go kill that goblin chieftain who has been attacking our village".

I'm not at all surprised people don't bother (even though I always listen to every word my first play-through on every mmo I have done with one exception - Archeage), and just want to get to the action.

danno8

Prabooo wrote: »

AshTal wrote: »

I sometimes wish they put more in that stopped people rushing through but some people wil always try and power level and complete the content as quickly as possible just to post on the forum they did it.

Not true. I rush thru content 'cause I choose however I want to play instead of following YOUR "play style". Respect is a two way highroad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2nM55ko_ys

Shunravi

PBpsy wrote: »

Sure I will listen to the awesome VA the 200th time I do the dungeon....As a matter of fact ... Look It's Mereel!'

'why is nothing ever easy?' yup
'look its a netch. their the most docile...' nope
'that was the healers fault, no doubt about it.' Thanks Hiath.