exp scrolls revamped

Lightninvash · October 2015

exp scrolls should have an option of use to instead of gaining 2hrs of bonus xp to just give x amount of xp to compensate for 2 hrs of grinding/questing that would be way more awesome. between that and selling cps in crown store. think we can all agree it would be a step in the right direction.

Paazhahdrimaak · October 2015

So you want the experience for free?

And at a 50% boost its still to much work for you?

Lightninvash · October 2015

it would be a compromise and free.... you are paying for it I wouldn't call it free... say x amount of xp vs the 2 hrs of grinding which could be less xp than if you grinded but not enough less that it wouldn't be worth it but just enough that grinding would still gain an advantage over using for xp for those who don't want to grind

Paazhahdrimaak · October 2015

Yeah you buy the scrolls, your paying to gain experience at an increased rate. Not FREE experience.

But use them and just get x amount of xp?

Without grinding? Without questing? Again to much work for you?

Why? Want to be max lvl but dont want to work for it?

Xp scrolls are already unnecessary. But to be just given experience just by using the scrolls? People would just buy they're way to the top .

What's next a crafting boost scroll? Max out you woodcrafting in one click! 2000 crowns!

Enodoc · October 2015

I would very much oppose anything that provided progression/reward for no effort. This includes:
Instant XP
Instant CP
Instant Levels

If you want the progression, you have to earn it.

Paazhahdrimaak · October 2015

Enodoc wrote: »

I would very much oppose anything that provided progression/reward for no effort. This includes:
Instant XP
Instant CP
Instant Levels

If you want the progression, you have to earn it.

^ This guy

Go Enodoc, go Enodoc!

OmniDevil · October 2015

Not even NW, which is pretty P2W, has their XP scrolls do this for players and that is the one game I would expect something like this in.

No.

Use the scrolls, increase the XP you receive for grinding/questing. Otherwise, you may as well just allow paid max level characters as Blizzard now does.

Lightninvash · October 2015

or even an instant vet 16 booster that gives you grean vet 16 gear that is just average gear nothing too great that would be awesome for like 5000 crowns

Kwivur · October 2015

Lightninvash wrote: »

exp scrolls should have an option of use to instead of gaining 2hrs of bonus xp to just give x amount of xp to compensate for 2 hrs of grinding/questing that would be way more awesome. between that and selling cps in crown store. think we can all agree it would be a step in the right direction.

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Lightninvash · October 2015

Kwivur wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

exp scrolls should have an option of use to instead of gaining 2hrs of bonus xp to just give x amount of xp to compensate for 2 hrs of grinding/questing that would be way more awesome. between that and selling cps in crown store. think we can all agree it would be a step in the right direction.

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insightful response with many valid points that is very constructive in many ways thank you for your input

Enodoc · October 2015

Lightninvash wrote: »

or even an instant vet 16 booster that gives you grean vet 16 gear that is just average gear nothing too great that would be awesome for like 5000 crowns

You want a Vet 16 character? Earn it. You want two Vet 16 characters? Earn it twice. No shortcuts, no excuses. Just because you've done something once, you shouldn't be able to get it again without repeating the effort.

Lightninvash · October 2015

Enodoc wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

or even an instant vet 16 booster that gives you grean vet 16 gear that is just average gear nothing too great that would be awesome for like 5000 crowns

You want a Vet 16 character? Earn it. You want two Vet 16 characters? Earn it twice. No shortcuts, no excuses. Just because you've done something once, you shouldn't be able to get it again without repeating the effort.

that would be one way to do it orrr buying an insta vet 16 with green gear it comes with and all the cps to match. that would be the better option

Enodoc · October 2015

Lightninvash wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

or even an instant vet 16 booster that gives you grean vet 16 gear that is just average gear nothing too great that would be awesome for like 5000 crowns

You want a Vet 16 character? Earn it. You want two Vet 16 characters? Earn it twice. No shortcuts, no excuses. Just because you've done something once, you shouldn't be able to get it again without repeating the effort.

that would be one way to do it orrr buying an insta vet 16 with green gear it comes with and all the cps to match. that would be the better option

You said that already. I still disagree

Buying instant levels is cheating.

Lightninvash · October 2015

Enodoc wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

or even an instant vet 16 booster that gives you grean vet 16 gear that is just average gear nothing too great that would be awesome for like 5000 crowns

You want a Vet 16 character? Earn it. You want two Vet 16 characters? Earn it twice. No shortcuts, no excuses. Just because you've done something once, you shouldn't be able to get it again without repeating the effort.

that would be one way to do it orrr buying an insta vet 16 with green gear it comes with and all the cps to match. that would be the better option

You said that already. I still disagree Buying instant levels is cheating.

it isn't cheating it is progression through crown purchase for the casuals who don't have 8 hrs to spend on a game a day who maybe can fit in 1hour in for gameplay or so. not everyone has the time required to play and be useful in dungeons and pvp because of the lack of gear or levels earned via playing hours on end like the no lifers. this would be a good tool for those players maybe with an exception of 1 and only 1 available purchase of a vet 16 char. would be nice

OmniDevil · October 2015

Lightninvash wrote: »

it isn't cheating it is progression through crown purchase for the casuals who don't have 8 hrs to spend on a game a day who maybe can fit in 1hour in for gameplay or so. not everyone has the time required to play and be useful in dungeons and pvp because of the lack of gear or levels earned via playing hours on end like the no lifers. this would be a good tool for those players maybe with an exception of 1 and only 1 available purchase of a vet 16 char. would be nice

Though not directly "Cheating" it is providing a means of shortcutting your way to top of a mountain of something that others have worked through many times now. Someone elses play time or schedule shouldn't matter. Questing/grinding to vr16 provides a means of knowledge on how to play a class, use skill or how enemies/bosses work/can be defeated. Having to learn all that at the end and trying to jump into a Trial or even DSA as someone who basically just logged in for the first time...you're asking for a world of upset.

Again, no. Good thought, but not very well executed no matter how you spin it.

Lightninvash · October 2015

OmniDevil wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

it isn't cheating it is progression through crown purchase for the casuals who don't have 8 hrs to spend on a game a day who maybe can fit in 1hour in for gameplay or so. not everyone has the time required to play and be useful in dungeons and pvp because of the lack of gear or levels earned via playing hours on end like the no lifers. this would be a good tool for those players maybe with an exception of 1 and only 1 available purchase of a vet 16 char. would be nice

Though not directly "Cheating" it is providing a means of shortcutting your way to top of a mountain of something that others have worked through many times now. Someone elses play time or schedule shouldn't matter. Questing/grinding to vr16 provides a means of knowledge on how to play a class, use skill or how enemies/bosses work/can be defeated. Having to learn all that at the end and trying to jump into a Trial or even DSA as someone who basically just logged in for the first time...you're asking for a world of upset.

Again, no. Good thought, but not very well executed no matter how you spin it.

this isn't work either it is a video game made for entertainment and entertainment only. not for oh I have to be the best or get the best stuff and work hard for it. entertainment isn't gaining max levels to have bragging rights or to crush weaker ppl in pvp. if you want to show off your skill as a player let everyone be same level due to a 1 time purchase of a vet 16 char and then everyone will see who stands where based on skill and everyone can have fun instead of having to put in way too much effort to play a game that isn't worth putting in the effort for. in the end of the day is working in the game coming home from work to just go back to work in game actually fun? no it is not but achieving max level you no longer have to worry about that and can focus time and effort into questing doing dungeons pvp without the thought in your mind of this is fun but to be better I got to grind then stopping the fun of the game to go back and grind and back to the not fun part of the game. idk about everyone else but I play a game for fun not to grind out levels and sit there in the same spot like a zombie for hrs on end. I actually enjoy exploring doing some quests and dungeons even pvp but in order to be useful you have to grind to reach max level and those who do start new will not know what a trial is and can learn on the fly. experiencing something is the best way to learn then you know exactly what not to do

OmniDevil · October 2015

Lightninvash wrote: »

....everyone can have fun instead of having to put in way too much effort to play a game that isn't worth putting in the effort for....

Wait, have fun in something that isn't worth the effort? You don't see the contradiction in this? You've seriously convuluted the meaning of "work" in a video game. You took the word "work" in a "going to your daily 8-5 job and earning a paycheck" meaning, took it out of context and incorporated it into a video game to show why your idea (or lackthereof) is superior and in no way a bad thing. Opinions are just that and they won't always agree with yours. When they don't, accept it and move on.

Stop twisting someone elses words around to prove why your right and everyone else is wrong.

#inb4myreactionscoreishigherthereforemyopinionislaw

Lightninvash · October 2015

OmniDevil wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

....everyone can have fun instead of having to put in way too much effort to play a game that isn't worth putting in the effort for....

Wait, have fun in something that isn't worth the effort? You don't see the contradiction in this? You've seriously convuluted the meaning of "work" in a video game. You took the word "work" in a "going to your daily 8-5 job and earning a paycheck" meaning, took it out of context and incorporated it into a video game to show why your idea (or lackthereof) is superior and in no way a bad thing. Opinions are just that and they won't always agree with yours. When they don't, accept it and move on.

Stop twisting someone elses words around to prove why your right and everyone else is wrong.

#inb4myreactionscoreishigherthereforemyopinionislaw

the thing is I am right and everyone else is wrong. I do pride myself in always being more superior as a human and never being wrong. what I said was exactly how the game works at current and lacks the fun aspect that you want in a game. without the need of grinding and the spending days for 1 piece of armor or level is just not fun. it is very lacking and frustrating. you can also do what you said in your statement "Opinions are just that and they won't always agree with yours. When they don't, accept it and move on." you can just move along here

JamilaRaj · October 2015

Lightninvash wrote: »

exp scrolls should have an option of use to instead of gaining 2hrs of bonus xp to just give x amount of xp to compensate for 2 hrs of grinding/questing that would be way more awesome. between that and selling cps in crown store. think we can all agree it would be a step in the right direction.

But then even the most clueless and gullible players would see they would be buying exp for money. When they have to grind for two hours before they recieve their bought two hours worth of exp, they do not recognize they are taking part in shameful P2W scheme (and those who do recognize can pretend they do not).

Lightninvash · October 2015

JamilaRaj wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

exp scrolls should have an option of use to instead of gaining 2hrs of bonus xp to just give x amount of xp to compensate for 2 hrs of grinding/questing that would be way more awesome. between that and selling cps in crown store. think we can all agree it would be a step in the right direction.

But then even the most clueless and gullible players would see they would be buying exp for money. When they have to grind for two hours before they recieve their bought two hours worth of exp, they do not recognize they are taking part in shameful P2W scheme (and those who do recognize can pretend they do not).

p2w is profitable tho then zeni would be able to focus on other things and have enough money for quality updates lol

JamilaRaj · October 2015

Lightninvash wrote: »

JamilaRaj wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

exp scrolls should have an option of use to instead of gaining 2hrs of bonus xp to just give x amount of xp to compensate for 2 hrs of grinding/questing that would be way more awesome. between that and selling cps in crown store. think we can all agree it would be a step in the right direction.

But then even the most clueless and gullible players would see they would be buying exp for money. When they have to grind for two hours before they recieve their bought two hours worth of exp, they do not recognize they are taking part in shameful P2W scheme (and those who do recognize can pretend they do not).

p2w is profitable tho then zeni would be able to focus on other things and have enough money for quality updates lol

True. They could perhaps even afford to hire some programmers.

Lightninvash · October 2015

JamilaRaj wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

JamilaRaj wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

exp scrolls should have an option of use to instead of gaining 2hrs of bonus xp to just give x amount of xp to compensate for 2 hrs of grinding/questing that would be way more awesome. between that and selling cps in crown store. think we can all agree it would be a step in the right direction.

But then even the most clueless and gullible players would see they would be buying exp for money. When they have to grind for two hours before they recieve their bought two hours worth of exp, they do not recognize they are taking part in shameful P2W scheme (and those who do recognize can pretend they do not).

p2w is profitable tho then zeni would be able to focus on other things and have enough money for quality updates lol

True. They could perhaps even afford to hire some programmers.

hell id even be ok if with purchase of new dlc once vet ranks go higher giving an xp scroll that puts us instantly to vet 18 or whatever the new highest level is so we can put aside grinding again because we all know since new content is coming out no one will think ima wait till they make it vet 18 to do it so I can level in the new solo content coming out lol

Paazhahdrimaak · October 2015

Lightninvash wrote: »

JamilaRaj wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

JamilaRaj wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

exp scrolls should have an option of use to instead of gaining 2hrs of bonus xp to just give x amount of xp to compensate for 2 hrs of grinding/questing that would be way more awesome. between that and selling cps in crown store. think we can all agree it would be a step in the right direction.

But then even the most clueless and gullible players would see they would be buying exp for money. When they have to grind for two hours before they recieve their bought two hours worth of exp, they do not recognize they are taking part in shameful P2W scheme (and those who do recognize can pretend they do not).

p2w is profitable tho then zeni would be able to focus on other things and have enough money for quality updates lol

True. They could perhaps even afford to hire some programmers.

hell id even be ok if with purchase of new dlc once vet ranks go higher giving an xp scroll that puts us instantly to vet 18 or whatever the new highest level is so we can put aside grinding again because we all know since new content is coming out no one will think ima wait till they make it vet 18 to do it so I can level in the new solo content coming out lol

Haha need an instant boost. Hahahahaha makes me sad this whole world is lazy.

Lightninvash · October 2015

Paazhahdrimaak wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

JamilaRaj wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

JamilaRaj wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

exp scrolls should have an option of use to instead of gaining 2hrs of bonus xp to just give x amount of xp to compensate for 2 hrs of grinding/questing that would be way more awesome. between that and selling cps in crown store. think we can all agree it would be a step in the right direction.

But then even the most clueless and gullible players would see they would be buying exp for money. When they have to grind for two hours before they recieve their bought two hours worth of exp, they do not recognize they are taking part in shameful P2W scheme (and those who do recognize can pretend they do not).

p2w is profitable tho then zeni would be able to focus on other things and have enough money for quality updates lol

True. They could perhaps even afford to hire some programmers.

hell id even be ok if with purchase of new dlc once vet ranks go higher giving an xp scroll that puts us instantly to vet 18 or whatever the new highest level is so we can put aside grinding again because we all know since new content is coming out no one will think ima wait till they make it vet 18 to do it so I can level in the new solo content coming out lol

Haha need an instant boost. Hahahahaha makes me sad this whole world is lazy.

ok there is a difference in lazy and busy. not everyone has time to play 3+ hrs a night some of us maybe see only 30mins of gameplay. and when you have to log in and grind for 30 mins so you can max level to just grind out gear after which could take forever due to how many mats there are now if there was something for us to give xp for us who only can put in a small amount of time in the game so we can have fun as well as everyone else. it would be a nice feature. the reason I say either sell a one time use or give everyone is so that people wont be completely screwed out of their experience those who have the time to grind vs those who don't. everyone would get 1 maxed toon and be happy then if they want more they can grind for it. so everyone can have some fun even if they only have 1 maxed out char

Paazhahdrimaak · October 2015

@Lightninvash yeah man apologies for the name calling yesterday, I understand I'm busy too, I can only rock out more than an hour on weekends. I don't even have a vet 16 yet. Because I split my time between 1 of 3. One is my main who is lvl 50 in all crafting skills and he's in cadwalls gold. One is half way to being vet. I was speaking my mind on a "instant boost" no hard feelings. But that's just what you do in elder scrolls games you make another character going through the questing making different choices, falling in love with the build and your hard work you put into them. There is no pride in an instant boost.

I used to play another mmo, that it went by a 3letter word for excitment. And the last expansion pack gave a free boost to 90. And it killed it. There was no attachment or pride or love for that character. Saved me time yes. But I did start playing that game because there was no ESO.

(Added) plus dude I know I'm gonna be playing this game for years. Might as well start those other guys

jircris11 · October 2015

Lightninvash wrote: »

exp scrolls should have an option of use to instead of gaining 2hrs of bonus xp to just give x amount of xp to compensate for 2 hrs of grinding/questing that would be way more awesome. between that and selling cps in crown store. think we can all agree it would be a step in the right direction.

Issue with this is simple. Some people gain 3-5 lvls a hour others like my self can EASLY hit 1-20 or 20-30 in a hour.

Gilvoth · October 2015

Lightninvash wrote: »

exp scrolls should have an option of use to instead of gaining 2hrs of bonus xp to just give x amount of xp to compensate for 2 hrs of grinding/questing that would be way more awesome. between that and selling cps in crown store. think we can all agree it would be a step in the right direction.

i like the way you think, take a scroll and instant xp? i love it

im in agreement.