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What hardware should I change to make the game smoother/more playable on good graphics in PVP/PVE

ShiunTraze
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Hi there, ever since i got the game my computer performance has never been totally great in both pvp/pve at one point. I was wondering what i should change in my hardware and to what to get the best performance with great graphics. It appears to me like the CPU needs to be changed though (although i don't know how to with my one it's a bit tricky).

Windows 10 - 64 bit
AMD - 8320 Eight Core processor (8 cpus) - 3.5ghz
GTX 760
8GB RAM

I think i might also need to put in a water-cooling system for a new cpu just to help?

The image is of the cooling system cpu does anybody know how to take it out? do i just unhook those things, even though they are very resistant??
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  • rb2001
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    Robbmrp wrote: »
    Mojmir wrote: »
    Yeah its your computer, not ZO$ that just made the game run like crap : (

    This,I just did a build for my daughter with an I3 and 750ti,game runs smooth

    Post a video of that while your in Cyrodil and lets see how smooth that $200 computer runs....

    There is some strange, incorrect and misleading information in this thread.

    Firstly, Cyrodil is not especially taxing on the GPU and CPU in the game, because it's fairly empty in term of vegetation and mobs (AIs).

    Cyrodil has lag when you are around a lot of players who are doing things, because that creates sever latency (lag).

    Whether the computer has 4 Titans or a GTX 480 makes absolutely no difference in how lag will be experienced. Only your location and internet connection do.

    Whether the computer setup costs 200 dollars or 3000 makes utterly no difference in how lag is experienced, unless we are including the network card / router in there, but honestly, even still, lag is lag, and you're going to experience it. It has nothing to do with graphics performance.


    Secondly, the hardware being mentioned in this thread is mostly overkill for ESO. ESO does not have taxing graphics. ESO maxes on basically anything. You can max out ESO on a toaster.

    My system is about 7 years old, and runs it on HIGH at 1080p at about 50 FPS.

    I have Ambient Occlusion and Water Reflections (low) on as well, and so I am running "High and a half" (Ultra high is the same as High except it defaults on Medium Water Reflections, and increases the View Distance a bit).


    Anyway, OP, your GPU is more than enough for ESO at sub-4k resolutions.

    Your CPU (and thus motherboard) is what would be slowing you down, because it's an AMD platform. AMD CPUs (and their motherboard socket platforms) have a poor record with game performance.

    Check benchmarks versus equivalent cost Intel chips to verify this, if you wish.


    You do not need overclocking or water cooling to play ESO. This game has fairly dated graphics. My 7 year old system runs Crysis maxed out, which looks 20 times as detailed as ESO.


    Also, it should be mentioned that RAM doesn't really "do anything". You don't need more than 8 for a gaming machine, unless you are one of those people who likes to leave programs running while gaming (weirdos).

    Windows will consume about 1.5 GB for running, and your GPU will be using 1-2 GB, which must be "matched" by your physical RAM, but that still leaves you with 8 - 4 = 4 GB unused, at worse.


    If I can make a suggestion here, it is the following:

    -ignore the obviously overkill hardware and titans and all that rubbish
    -get a new mid-range Intel chip that is recommended for gaming systems (i5, i7)
    -get a new quality motherboard along with that (don't skimp on motherboard)
    -slap your existing card in there and you will see gains of 10 fps ish easily

    Edited by rb2001 on October 15, 2015 8:05PM
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  • ShiunTraze
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    There's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.
  • Kammakazi
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    4x Titans
  • ShiunTraze
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    4x Titans

    4 gtx titans?? Are you mad?! xD
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  • zornyan
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    The gtx760 is a bit outdated imo, I just got myself two gtx 970s msi overclocked and I'm truly gobsmacked at the performance , bf4 at 1440p? Just a tad over 100 fps with everything on ultra.

    Bump the ram up to 16gb minimum, got A SSD? if not I would highly recommend one, everything is loaded up near instantly.

    Not too keen on the amd cpu's , not many games make use of the 8 threads, and a decent i5 / i7 will blow it out of the water when run side by side .

    Water cooling is a bit ott, a decent gpu like a 970 with maxwell barely consumes any power, and generates very little heat, I've got 4 fans, and 2 backup manual fans on the case, never had to switch the manual ones on even when pelting out gaming for average hours.



  • Kammakazi
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    ShiunTraze wrote: »
    Kammakazi wrote: »
    4x Titans

    4 gtx titans?? Are you mad?! xD

    Yes.

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  • DannyLV702
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    Hmmmm. Remove PC and install ps4. *runs*
  • SirAndy
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    ShiunTraze wrote: »
    what i should change in my hardware and to what to get the best performance
    Apply for a job at ZOS and fix their horrendous client/server implementation ...
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  • zornyan
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    Do not get me started on those overpriced pieces of crap called the titan, no where near with the stupid price tag, hell a few benchmark tests showed 2 gtx 970s running far better frame rates than one titan, just overhyped crap, I love my nvidia cards, but the titan was a pure joke.
  • silky_soft
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    980ti beats 970sli
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  • zornyan
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    silky_soft wrote: »
    980ti beats 970sli

    Not with dx12 it ksnt, the previous sli/crossfire issues were vram didn't stack, well now it does :) and most stuff is now/ will be sli compatible, if you want to run any higher than 1440p in the future two 970s will be better than a 980ti.

    Plus they're cheaper.
  • Prof_Bawbag
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    4x Titans

    I wouldn't be seen dead online without running at least 10 of them on my 32k 60" monitor.

  • phairdon
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    4x Titans

    I wouldn't be seen dead online without running at least 10 of them on my 32k 60" monitor.

    Haha. Got your own powerstation or is your computer nuclear powered?
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  • LegacyDM
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    ShiunTraze wrote: »
    Kammakazi wrote: »
    4x Titans

    4 gtx titans?? Are you mad?! xD

    Yes.

    4744861

    Having 4 of these is pointless. Your processor will be limited way before you fully utilize a sli quad configuration. Also there is no airflow between the gpus, the fans are blocked by each subsequent card. Cards will overheat in a matter of minutes. I know because I've tested tri and quad fire setups. Quad fire setups are marketing gimmicks.
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  • LameoveR
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    You don't need sli for ESO. Just GTX 770\970 or whatever AMD GPU like 290x.

    Edited by LameoveR on October 12, 2015 12:03AM
  • Prof_Bawbag
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    phairdon wrote: »
    Kammakazi wrote: »
    4x Titans

    I wouldn't be seen dead online without running at least 10 of them on my 32k 60" monitor.

    Haha. Got your own powerstation or is your computer nuclear powered?

    No. I pimped my ZX Spectrum. I'm looking to pimp my Commodore 64 next.

  • ShiunTraze
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    not the answers i am looking for..
    There's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.
  • Belidos
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    ShiunTraze wrote: »
    Kammakazi wrote: »
    4x Titans

    4 gtx titans?? Are you mad?! xD

    Yes.

    4744861

    Bah, if you're going to do it, do it right ...

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  • winterbornb14_ESO
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    Yeah its your computer, not ZO$ that just made the game run like crap : (
  • Mojmir
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    Yeah its your computer, not ZO$ that just made the game run like crap : (

    This,I just did a build for my daughter with an I3 and 750ti,game runs smooth
  • ShiunTraze
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Yeah its your computer, not ZO$ that just made the game run like crap : (

    This,I just did a build for my daughter with an I3 and 750ti,game runs smooth

    no -_-
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  • Scyantific
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    DannyLV702 wrote: »
    Hmmmm. Remove PC and install ps4. *runs*

    he said he wanted to improve performance not brick a tv and a ps4 at the same time.
  • Robbmrp
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    Mojmir wrote: »
    Yeah its your computer, not ZO$ that just made the game run like crap : (

    This,I just did a build for my daughter with an I3 and 750ti,game runs smooth

    Post a video of that while your in Cyrodil and lets see how smooth that $200 computer runs....
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  • Robbmrp
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    ShiunTraze wrote: »
    Hi there, ever since i got the game my computer performance has never been totally great in both pvp/pve at one point. I was wondering what i should change in my hardware and to what to get the best performance with great graphics. It appears to me like the CPU needs to be changed though (although i don't know how to with my one it's a bit tricky).

    Windows 10 - 64 bit
    AMD - 8320 Eight Core processor (8 cpus) - 3.5ghz
    GTX 760
    8GB RAM

    I think i might also need to put in a water-cooling system for a new cpu just to help?

    The image is of the cooling system cpu does anybody know how to take it out? do i just unhook those things, even though they are very resistant??

    The cheapest change you could make would be to get another GTX 760 and SLI them. That should give you more FPS for the game. You can also upgrade your 8gb RAM to a higher speed if it's slow. Those are probably the only bottlenecks that you will run into. If that CPU isn't strong enough to handle the game, you should convert over to Intel and look at a system with at least an I5-I7. The more money you put into the CPU the better off you'll be. You only need to add in Water Cooling if your going to Over Clock your CPU and maybe not even then for yours depending on the cooking capability of your existing heatsink.

    I have two I7's that my wife and I are gaming with that work great. An I7 2600k OC'd to 4.5 GHZ and an I7 3770K OC'd to 4.4 ghz. The first is 4 yr's old and the 2nd is 3 years old. The only thing I've done to my systems in 3 years is add SSD's and swap out to newer video cards the 970 GTX.
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  • cjthibs
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    SLI doesn't make much difference in this game.
    Your CPU however, is old, and AMD has been falling behind for years now. (It sucks, I miss my old awesome AMDs)

    You'd be better off swapping for a cheap i5/i7 and re-using what you can of your current hardware. Processor and Motherboard, obviously.

    A 760 is also plenty for this game.
  • Pallmor
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    ShiunTraze wrote: »
    Kammakazi wrote: »
    4x Titans

    4 gtx titans?? Are you mad?! xD

    THAT'S TOO MUCH TITANS, CAPTAIN!!! SHE CANNO TAKE IT!!!
  • SHADOW2KK
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    Pallmor wrote: »
    ShiunTraze wrote: »
    Kammakazi wrote: »
    4x Titans

    4 gtx titans?? Are you mad?! xD

    THAT'S TOO MUCH TITANS, CAPTAIN!!! SHE CANNO TAKE IT!!!

    *Cannae*

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  • ShiunTraze
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    rb2001 wrote: »

    If I can make a suggestion here, it is the following:

    -ignore the obviously overkill hardware and titans and all that rubbish
    -get a new mid-range Intel chip that is recommended for gaming systems (i5, i7)
    -get a new quality motherboard along with that (don't skimp on motherboard)
    -slap your existing card in there and you will see gains of 10 fps ish easily

    Thankyou, this was very helpful :) My motherboard is an Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 so would that be okay to keep? And would a good but cheaper i5 do okay like the i5 4690k be better than the amd i have now?
    There's a difference between knowing the path and walking the path.
  • Malmai
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    ShiunTraze wrote: »
    rb2001 wrote: »

    If I can make a suggestion here, it is the following:

    -ignore the obviously overkill hardware and titans and all that rubbish
    -get a new mid-range Intel chip that is recommended for gaming systems (i5, i7)
    -get a new quality motherboard along with that (don't skimp on motherboard)
    -slap your existing card in there and you will see gains of 10 fps ish easily

    Thankyou, this was very helpful :) My motherboard is an Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 so would that be okay to keep? And would a good but cheaper i5 do okay like the i5 4690k be better than the amd i have now?

    I bought 3 i5 to test vs i7s and i have to say go with i7 doesn't matter which benchmarks you saw i always had way better performance with i7 even in games. i7-4790K is what im using now and its really good, but probably i will swap in near future.
    Edited by Malmai on October 17, 2015 8:43AM
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