Thoughts On Orsinium Upcoming DLC

Dylanlucas

Hate It

Rodvic wrote: »

Dylanlucas wrote: »

RDMyers65b14_ESO wrote: »

Dylanlucas wrote: »

Were are the new groupdungeons? Only 2 new public dungeons? No new 12 man trials?

A solo arena not even the option to do a groupversion?

Somebody said it and yes it's an EMPTY DLC!

And for those solo players out there, go and play Skyrim or maybe Fallout 4 is for you.
The game on the PS4 is already dying a slow death with IC update aka Grind City.

Remember a MMO is all about groupplay.....

You need to remember that the majority of the players here are here because of the game being TES, not because of they are MMO fans. For many, myself included, this is the first and only MMO we've played.

Then let them make a new single player game for those players, as long as they are putting it out there as a MMO the social and groupplay aspect are the most important.

Rodvic wrote: »

Dylanlucas wrote: »

Were are the new groupdungeons? Only 2 new public dungeons? No new 12 man trials?

A solo arena not even the option to do a groupversion?

Somebody said it and yes it's an EMPTY DLC!

And for those solo players out there, go and play Skyrim or maybe Fallout 4 is for you.
The game on the PS4 is already dying a slow death with IC update aka Grind City.

Remember a MMO is all about groupplay.....

Yeah, no. An mmo isn't just about group play. Mmos all offer some form of solo play and it has been that way for years now.

See the answer above.

Like i said, the Skyrim fanboys will get some nice content whilst the MMO players will get *** all.........

I like how you assume that people who are excited for more single player content aren't mmo players. I've been playing mmos for over ten years not an I couldn't be happier that there is more solo content coming. Just because it doesn't have stuff that caters to you doesn't mean it is an "empty dlc", saying that is just childish.

-Craglorn offered PvE group content
-IC offered PvP and PvE group content
-Orsinium is offering solo PvE content

From what I know, Murkmire is going to be similar to Craglorn as far as the type of content it will have so wait for that.

Opinions are like a.holes, everyone has one.

And my opinion is that it's an empty dlc, so ZOS won't get any of my money.

This board consists of opinions and it's to vent an opinion, saying to someone that his or her opinion is "childish" is questionable........

Eshelmen

It's Okay

I'm always excited to have more things/areas to do and explore.

Quite frankly , 3000 crowns plus the 2500 for IC is ridiculous.

For 20 hours of additional gameplay, the price is just too steep. But, that's what they charge, and that's what I'm going to have to pay, lol

Sandmanninja

Legedric wrote: »

Huggalump wrote: »

Only concern is that I can't keep dropping $20 for these little DLCs that honestly shouldn't be $20 in the first place. It's cool content, but not half a game's price of cool.

Also, making it 2500 crowns when there's only a 750, 1500, and 3000 crown option... that's a *** move.

Isn't orsinium 3000 crowns for the standard and 5000 for the collector thingy edition? So you got what you wanted, you now gotta pay full 25$ for the DLC and won't have to spend 500 crowns on something else.

On topic: I hate it!
- Nothing for PvP players (yes, I know Orsinium is a PvE DLC but IC was announced as a PvP DLC which it simply isn't so I still had some hope)
- The new way to spend AP on is nothing but a huge "F*** y** - no new gear for you!" for us PvP players
- Probably tons of new super-sets you gotta grind in mindless PvE until you finally get that RNg for the desired Heavy Armor well-fitted item you want...

Please continue to enjoy your zergfest known as Imperial City DLC. We PvE'ers had to wait while PvP'ers were appeased.
Please go gank someone and let others have a go.

Septimus_Magna

Im not going to play it on PTS, pve tend to be boring the second time.

Its nice there's some end game solo content but I find it strange there isnt any group content like trails or vet dungeons.

Legedric

Hate It

Sandmanninja wrote: »

Legedric wrote: »

Huggalump wrote: »

Only concern is that I can't keep dropping $20 for these little DLCs that honestly shouldn't be $20 in the first place. It's cool content, but not half a game's price of cool.

Also, making it 2500 crowns when there's only a 750, 1500, and 3000 crown option... that's a *** move.

Isn't orsinium 3000 crowns for the standard and 5000 for the collector thingy edition? So you got what you wanted, you now gotta pay full 25$ for the DLC and won't have to spend 500 crowns on something else.

On topic: I hate it!
- Nothing for PvP players (yes, I know Orsinium is a PvE DLC but IC was announced as a PvP DLC which it simply isn't so I still had some hope)
- The new way to spend AP on is nothing but a huge "F*** y** - no new gear for you!" for us PvP players
- Probably tons of new super-sets you gotta grind in mindless PvE until you finally get that RNg for the desired Heavy Armor well-fitted item you want...

Please continue to enjoy your zergfest known as Imperial City DLC. We PvE'ers had to wait while PvP'ers were appeased.
Please go gank someone and let others have a go.

Learn2read, IC is not a PvP DLC at all as it's just a huge PvE grind...

Tavore1138

Love It

First content for people who enjoy a good solo quest since launch and thus long overdue.

I like the look of the 1 person arena - should be fun learning how to beat it.

I like that we will be able to get level appropriate crafting materials without going into IC.

I like the look of the landscape that we have seen so far.

I do think it is a damn shame that there is no new trial type content and no new group dungeon but the huge public dungeons seem interesting at least.

I think this has some good possibilities but, as always, the devil will be in the detail.

Valrien

Sandmanninja wrote: »

Legedric wrote: »

Huggalump wrote: »

Only concern is that I can't keep dropping $20 for these little DLCs that honestly shouldn't be $20 in the first place. It's cool content, but not half a game's price of cool.

Also, making it 2500 crowns when there's only a 750, 1500, and 3000 crown option... that's a *** move.

Isn't orsinium 3000 crowns for the standard and 5000 for the collector thingy edition? So you got what you wanted, you now gotta pay full 25$ for the DLC and won't have to spend 500 crowns on something else.

On topic: I hate it!
- Nothing for PvP players (yes, I know Orsinium is a PvE DLC but IC was announced as a PvP DLC which it simply isn't so I still had some hope)
- The new way to spend AP on is nothing but a huge "F*** y** - no new gear for you!" for us PvP players
- Probably tons of new super-sets you gotta grind in mindless PvE until you finally get that RNg for the desired Heavy Armor well-fitted item you want...

Please continue to enjoy your zergfest known as Imperial City DLC. We PvE'ers had to wait while PvP'ers were appeased.
Please go gank someone and let others have a go.

How were the PvPers appeased? All the PvErs did was get bigger groups and ruined it for everyone else.

AlienSlof

Love It

Looking forward to it myself, very much. As a PvE player, I thought I wouldn't like Imperial City, but I've enjoyed mad boss-bashing runs with my guildmates for the last 3 weekends in a row! I have ESO+, so it's allowed me to try it out and I found myself enjoying it. Orsinium is one I've been waiting for forever.

This one is very happy for new content whatever it is.

Orchish

Love It

Looking forward to it.

terrordactyl1971

Love It

They've basically cut n pasted Skyrim into ESO, both in looks and gameplay style.

I am impressed with the content on offer though, so I will definitely pick this up. I'm one of those rare people that likes solo, pve group and pvp styles depending on my mood that day.

I'm easily pleased :-)

Anhedonie

Love It

IC destroyed my desire to play ESO. Orsinium brought it back.

SantieClaws

It's Okay

This one doesn't really feel she can make a fair judgement until she has actually been there.

Santie has been unable to establish yet the quality of any fishing there may be in Orcland. Nor has Santie been able to find out if there will be any new and interesting items left unguarded in wardrobes or in chests or pockets.

Will be nice to have a snowy zone where all levels can get together at Fishmas though - if only it were also cross faction.

Santie also hopes for a good tavern or two.

AlienSlof

Love It

I'd be surprised if there was no fishing there, and 12 more trophy fish to catch. And a new dye for doing it.

FlyLeaf30

Love It

Dylanlucas wrote: »

Were are the new groupdungeons? Only 2 new public dungeons? No new 12 man trials?

A solo arena not even the option to do a groupversion?

Somebody said it and yes it's an EMPTY DLC!

And for those solo players out there, go and play Skyrim or maybe Fallout 4 is for you.
The game on the PS4 is already dying a slow death with IC update aka Grind City.

Remember a MMO is all about groupplay.....

They just came out with 2 new group dungeons what, just over a month ago, stop crying. It is not an empty DLC. The purpose of the solo arena is to test "your" abilities, skill and wit and how well you do under pressure, stop crying. Just because people like to play this game solo doesn't mean they should go play Skyrim or whatever, just because it's not your cup of tea, don't bash a great DLC, simply, don't buy it, stop crying.

Maotti

Love It

I like doing groupcontent. But i'm a soloer at heart. So i'm thrilled for this patch.

myrrrorb14_ESO

Love It

Hard to say without actually playing it. But it looks really good to me. Finally a scaled zone, so I can team with friends and guildies of different levels.

Every DLC should have a little bit of everything (group, solo, pvp, crafting). But I'm very happy about the potential of this update and I will probably buy it even though I am a current sub

Flaminir

Love It

Eshelmen wrote: »

I'm always excited to have more things/areas to do and explore.

Quite frankly , 3000 crowns plus the 2500 for IC is ridiculous.

For 20 hours of additional gameplay, the price is just too steep. But, that's what they charge, and that's what I'm going to have to pay, lol

It won't be just 20hrs... that's probably just the main quest..... In the same way that you could say DSA was just 1-2hrs content... but think how much fun most people had playing that over and over. And all the other bits & bobs (Grind grind grind) that we'll end up doing....

Also 2500-3000 crowns..... Fine by me tbh. We had the sub based model and loads of people trashed it saying they didn't want to pay a monthly fee. So they changed it. Now even at those crown prices its about a third cheaper, even assuming you buy every DLC.

Ultimately they have to make money to keep the game going I guess

2500 crowns every 3 months.... still cheaper than a sub.

Hope499

Love It

Artemisshrikes wrote: »

Empty patch what!

•Gamepad support
•Subtitles
•LFG improvements – cross-alliance dungeons
•Champion Point cap & catch-up system
•Shield Dyeing
•Improvements to battle-leveling
•Akaviri crafting style
•Ability balance and bug fixes
•New ways to spend Alliance Points
•Increased item drop rates
•…and more

This X 10

Hope499

Love It

SirCritical wrote: »

"Groups can now be formed across all three alliances. It is entirely possible for two Aldmeri characters to team up with an Ebonheart and Daggerfall duo to complete a dungeon."

OMG a dream becomes true

Whaaaa? Really??

Holy ***, might start playing again....

wesly.backersb16_ESO

Love It

Omg!!!... "A new single-player progressive challenge, The Maelstrom Arena"... omg!!!
... Upcoming winter full of ESOing

Pallmor

Love It

Dylanlucas wrote: »

Were are the new groupdungeons?

In Imperial City.

Dylanlucas wrote: »

No new 12 man trials?

Those are in Craglorn

Dylanlucas wrote: »

A solo arena not even the option to do a groupversion?

Was there an option to do Dragonstar Arena solo? Well, same answer.

Dylanlucas wrote: »

Remember a MMO is all about groupplay.....

I'll send a memo to all the solo players in other MMO's.

Pallmor

Love It

terrordactyl1971 wrote: »

They've basically cut n pasted Skyrim into ESO, both in looks and gameplay style.

I am impressed with the content on offer though, so I will definitely pick this up. I'm one of those rare people that likes solo, pve group and pvp styles depending on my mood that day.

I'm easily pleased :-)

Yeah, watched the playthrough on ESO Live and it looked amazing. And I can't wait for the solo arena. Finally, a chance for us to do something like Dragonstar without having to find a bunch of other players.

Sausage

It's Okay

I wonder how high the replayability is gonna be, thats my only concern really. I keep my fingers crossed that at least Arena is dynamic, like every time you go there, its different.

Techlisp

Love It

Bears, lots, and lots of bears.

HairyFairy

Love It

Someone, somewhere, will always have something to cry about.

Everyone that cries about anything, doesn't ever really know what they want.

It's just mind-numbing to read posts from people who b**ch and moan about the little things that they didn't get. It's like watching kids fight over a few toys out of a giant pile of toys.

FlyingFigNewton

Am I the only one pissed it's coming out the same day as Start Wars Battlefront?

Tavore1138

Love It

Valrien wrote: »

Sandmanninja wrote: »

Legedric wrote: »

Huggalump wrote: »

Only concern is that I can't keep dropping $20 for these little DLCs that honestly shouldn't be $20 in the first place. It's cool content, but not half a game's price of cool.

Also, making it 2500 crowns when there's only a 750, 1500, and 3000 crown option... that's a *** move.

Isn't orsinium 3000 crowns for the standard and 5000 for the collector thingy edition? So you got what you wanted, you now gotta pay full 25$ for the DLC and won't have to spend 500 crowns on something else.

On topic: I hate it!
- Nothing for PvP players (yes, I know Orsinium is a PvE DLC but IC was announced as a PvP DLC which it simply isn't so I still had some hope)
- The new way to spend AP on is nothing but a huge "F*** y** - no new gear for you!" for us PvP players
- Probably tons of new super-sets you gotta grind in mindless PvE until you finally get that RNg for the desired Heavy Armor well-fitted item you want...

Please continue to enjoy your zergfest known as Imperial City DLC. We PvE'ers had to wait while PvP'ers were appeased.
Please go gank someone and let others have a go.

How were the PvPers appeased? All the PvErs did was get bigger groups and ruined it for everyone else.

IC was supposed to be for PvP but ZOS marketing dept decided to lock crafting content and juicy sets that work as much for PvE as PvP inside IC - I suspect the plan was PvE players would come in and provide fodder for PvP players, but PvE players are quite used to working in groups to beat common objectives so instead of being the meat in the PvP sandwich they organised and turned the tables round on all the people rubbing their hands together at the thought of target rich ganking.

They didn't ruin it, they just refused to behave like lambs to the slaughter and found a way to get what they needed from the content.

I rather admire them for doing it TBH.

Orsinium will probably make IC less full of PvE players and actually more like the small unit combat zone that was imagined by PvP purists - and if ZOS reconsider adding some actual PvP objectives in the above ground areas of IC then I suspect it could become something rather epic.

slumber_sandb16_ESO

Love It

Its about time. As a fanatical Orc fanboy this will be the best DLC the game will ever see because Orsinium. No raise in VR, new sets with the same power level as IC sets, new zone to explore, new public dungeons, new solo arena, new master's weapons etc. Orc master race. Love it.

Too expensive? +20 HOURS of content for less than half the price of a standard game, most of which provide 4-10 hours of content before they end. You're playing for free and expecting them to make things as cheap as possible because you dont want to spend a bit extra money for their work? Pay them so they can get income to pay salaries and make profit so they can continue to make DLC's.

Some games cost +50 euros and can be played through in 5 hours. The price is cheap considering the amount of content. Dont like it then dont buy it, wait 3 months until the next DLC.

People complaining about little group play.. did you forget the rest of the game? Trials, dungeons, pledges, Craglorn and recently Imperial City. There's plenty of group content.

Korah_Eaglecry

Love It

Artemisshrikes wrote: »

Empty patch what!

•Gamepad support
•Subtitles
•LFG improvements – cross-alliance dungeons
•Champion Point cap & catch-up system
•Shield Dyeing
•Improvements to battle-leveling
•Akaviri crafting style
•Ability balance and bug fixes
•New ways to spend Alliance Points
•Increased item drop rates
•…and more

but but but but but....none of that is the specific type of content that i was looking for....can i rage quit now?

Dagoth_Rac

AngryNord wrote: »

As long as they're not making a new trial with Orsinium, I don't see why they couldn't up the existing trials to v16. No point in alienating even more people after the IC release... Especially when Orsinium will have to compete with Fallout 4's release...

Business decision. The Trials and DSA have some very good gear. If they were increased to VR16, that gear would become some of the best gear in the game. ZOS want the best gear to come from DLC, not the base game, as an incentive to buy DLC.