Happy About Gated Access IMP City But Why That Campaign Rule Set?

Pirhana7_ESO

Really happy there is an option for a campaign to play the Imperial City the way it was actually designed to be played where you can cut off the enemy access. This the next step to making it exciting like Darkness Falls was in DAOC and the IC is actually a prize in a way now. And it makes Cyrodiil actually matter again with who controls keeps giving importance. i am sure this campaign will get pop locked fast at prime time and will have to give this gated access to anotehr campaign.

But why did you use the campaign rule set and duration that is the least liked? 7 days and just keeps give points? Why not use one of the 30 day everything gives point rule set that is the most liked? especially since you actually have 2 of those camapigns?

AlnilamE

Maybe they want to find out who will PvP to get access to IC as opposed to PvP in general.

Xendyn

The mysteries of ZOS...

I was hoping they'd do it on Azura's where everyone already is. Ah well, now we have to get them all to move to give this a fair shot and a good try.

C'mon folks, let's go do this!

notimetocare

Keeps required for entry to IC and you cannot understand why keeps are the scoring system?

Pirhana7_ESO

notimetocare wrote: »

Keeps required for entry to IC and you cannot understand why keeps are the scoring system?

I understand that and its fine, i just dont understand why everything isnt worth points like the main campaigns are. This should be one one of the main 30 day camapigns

AlnilamE

Xendyn wrote: »

The mysteries of ZOS...

I was hoping they'd do it on Azura's where everyone already is. Ah well, now we have to get them all to move to give this a fair shot and a good try.

C'mon folks, let's go do this!

Do you really need Azura overrun by PvErs? :-P

Pirhana7_ESO

AlnilamE wrote: »

Xendyn wrote: »

The mysteries of ZOS...

I was hoping they'd do it on Azura's where everyone already is. Ah well, now we have to get them all to move to give this a fair shot and a good try.

C'mon folks, let's go do this!

Do you really need Azura overrun by PvErs? :-P

Why would it be over run by PVers? They arent going to leave IC to keep teh access from enemy alliances cut off. Access will change hands and be cut off often

MikeB

This is obviously a test to see how many people play the gates access. If its popular Im sure it will hit the larger PvP campaigns

Xendyn

AlnilamE wrote: »

Xendyn wrote: »

The mysteries of ZOS...

I was hoping they'd do it on Azura's where everyone already is. Ah well, now we have to get them all to move to give this a fair shot and a good try.

C'mon folks, let's go do this!

Do you really need Azura overrun by PvErs? :-P

Already is lol
I just want to see this access mechanic subjected to a good test with a full population of Both sides.

Nebthet78

I can't wait to see which EP Alliance guilds run over to this Campaign now.

k2blader

Yep. It's a trial balloon.. But the 7 day "choice" is dumb. All campaigns should be gated AND new, desirable AP items should be made available from Cyrodiil vendors.

Nebthet78

k2blader wrote: »

Yep. It's a trial balloon.. But the 7 day "choice" is dumb. All campaigns should be gated AND new, desirable AP items should be made available from Cyrodiil vendors.

I agree, they need to make two more gated access 30 day campaigns and leave the existing 2 ungated in place.

silky_soft

Should of merged all 7 day campaigns. They just up drop rates, peoples gear is nearly complete. Pve can teleport to dungeon. Still no cp catchup

Ruhgar

Well I for one am now looking forward to being able to do content that was gated to me. Now I just have to wait for my faction to open up access (maybe even help) and then actually see what it is like.

UrQuan

It's pretty obvious that they used one of the 7 day campaigns because it's an experiment and they want to see how it goes. Making it a 7 day campaign allows them to do this for the length of the campaign without locking it in for a full 30 days. Clearly they don't want to make a change to a basic campaign function in the middle of that campaign, so they put it on one of the short campaigns.

With that in mind, there's one campaign that is the clear choice for this: keeps. As the gated access is based on keeps, of course you'd want the campaign to be one where scoring is also based on keeps.

k2blader

UrQuan wrote: »

It's pretty obvious that they used one of the 7 day campaigns because it's an experiment and they want to see how it goes. Making it a 7 day campaign allows them to do this for the length of the campaign without locking it in for a full 30 days. Clearly they don't want to make a change to a basic campaign function in the middle of that campaign, so they put it on one of the short campaigns.

With that in mind, there's one campaign that is the clear choice for this: keeps. As the gated access is based on keeps, of course you'd want the campaign to be one where scoring is also based on keeps.

While I don't disagree with your assessment, there is really no good reason for me to switch to a 7-day campaign...

UrQuan

k2blader wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

It's pretty obvious that they used one of the 7 day campaigns because it's an experiment and they want to see how it goes. Making it a 7 day campaign allows them to do this for the length of the campaign without locking it in for a full 30 days. Clearly they don't want to make a change to a basic campaign function in the middle of that campaign, so they put it on one of the short campaigns.

With that in mind, there's one campaign that is the clear choice for this: keeps. As the gated access is based on keeps, of course you'd want the campaign to be one where scoring is also based on keeps.

While I don't disagree with your assessment, there is really no good reason for me to switch to a 7-day campaign...

Sure there is: to try the gated access version of IC!

RDMyers65b14_ESO

Nebthet78 wrote: »

I can't wait to see which EP Alliance guilds run over to this Campaign now.

Well, at 1 PM, it was already half red. DC had 4 players total, AD had 10 and a former EP Emp from Azura's was leading 20 reds on the campaign. Sorry, but I am not gonna be an AP donation on an EP farm campaign. So, less than two hours after it went live, it was killed.

Prof_Bawbag

AlnilamE wrote: »

Xendyn wrote: »

The mysteries of ZOS...

I was hoping they'd do it on Azura's where everyone already is. Ah well, now we have to get them all to move to give this a fair shot and a good try.

C'mon folks, let's go do this!

Do you really need Azura overrun by PvErs? :-P

They've got as much right being there as you and anyone else. Some PvPers seem to think they've got some sort of ownership over anything PvP.

LegacyDM

UrQuan wrote: »

k2blader wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

It's pretty obvious that they used one of the 7 day campaigns because it's an experiment and they want to see how it goes. Making it a 7 day campaign allows them to do this for the length of the campaign without locking it in for a full 30 days. Clearly they don't want to make a change to a basic campaign function in the middle of that campaign, so they put it on one of the short campaigns.

With that in mind, there's one campaign that is the clear choice for this: keeps. As the gated access is based on keeps, of course you'd want the campaign to be one where scoring is also based on keeps.

While I don't disagree with your assessment, there is really no good reason for me to switch to a 7-day campaign...

Sure there is: to try the gated access version of IC!

Am I missing something? What incentive is there to win gated access, when I can just walk into IC on another campaign? Is this ZOS's attempt to get people back out into CYRODIL? From a player perspective, is the bragging rights of winning gated access that exciting? Or is there something really cool about gated access I'm not seeing?

tordr86b16_ESO

What's the point? people are just going to guest the non restricted campaign craft or buy the gear they need and faceroll people on the restricted campaign.

UrQuan

joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

k2blader wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

It's pretty obvious that they used one of the 7 day campaigns because it's an experiment and they want to see how it goes. Making it a 7 day campaign allows them to do this for the length of the campaign without locking it in for a full 30 days. Clearly they don't want to make a change to a basic campaign function in the middle of that campaign, so they put it on one of the short campaigns.

With that in mind, there's one campaign that is the clear choice for this: keeps. As the gated access is based on keeps, of course you'd want the campaign to be one where scoring is also based on keeps.

While I don't disagree with your assessment, there is really no good reason for me to switch to a 7-day campaign...

Sure there is: to try the gated access version of IC!

Am I missing something? What incentive is there to win gated access, when I can just walk into IC on another campaign? Is this ZOS's attempt to get people back out into CYRODIL? From a player perspective, is the bragging rights of winning gated access that exciting? Or is there something really cool about gated access I'm not seeing?

The point is that you can have an effect on the enemy player population in IC by doing some Cyrodiil PVP. That means that you can get your alliance together, take a bunch of keeps, and then run around IC virtually unopposed. That could be appealing, depending on your view.

kevlarto_ESO

RDMyers65b14_ESO wrote: »

Nebthet78 wrote: »

I can't wait to see which EP Alliance guilds run over to this Campaign now.

Well, at 1 PM, it was already half red. DC had 4 players total, AD had 10 and a former EP Emp from Azura's was leading 20 reds on the campaign. Sorry, but I am not gonna be an AP donation on an EP farm campaign. So, less than two hours after it went live, it was killed.

Yep and unless the other factions show up it will pretty much be ruined, the faction imbalance in this game is just to large for anything gated or otherwise.

Tholian1

UrQuan wrote: »

joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

k2blader wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

It's pretty obvious that they used one of the 7 day campaigns because it's an experiment and they want to see how it goes. Making it a 7 day campaign allows them to do this for the length of the campaign without locking it in for a full 30 days. Clearly they don't want to make a change to a basic campaign function in the middle of that campaign, so they put it on one of the short campaigns.

With that in mind, there's one campaign that is the clear choice for this: keeps. As the gated access is based on keeps, of course you'd want the campaign to be one where scoring is also based on keeps.

While I don't disagree with your assessment, there is really no good reason for me to switch to a 7-day campaign...

Sure there is: to try the gated access version of IC!

Am I missing something? What incentive is there to win gated access, when I can just walk into IC on another campaign? Is this ZOS's attempt to get people back out into CYRODIL? From a player perspective, is the bragging rights of winning gated access that exciting? Or is there something really cool about gated access I'm not seeing?

The point is that you can have an effect on the enemy player population in IC by doing some Cyrodiil PVP. That means that you can get your alliance together, take a bunch of keeps, and then run around IC virtually unopposed. That could be appealing, depending on your view.

Running around IC virtually unopposed is certainly appealing to me.

Grunim

For the first time this month I had a ton of fun in Cyrodiil. This afternoon I went over to "The Axe" and helped my comrades deny an enemy their IC access and we restored access for our alliance. Fighting had meaning and far more people showed up to play today (myself included) who hadn't been playing so much lately.

I don't mind that this is just a 7 day campaign, I don't play for the end of campaign rewards anyways.

sagitter

Grunim wrote: »

For the first time this month I had a ton of fun in Cyrodiil. This afternoon I went over to "The Axe" and helped my comrades deny an enemy their IC access and we restored access for our alliance. Fighting had meaning and far more people showed up to play today (myself included) who hadn't been playing so much lately.

I don't mind that this is just a 7 day campaign, I don't play for the end of campaign rewards anyways.

Yes this is the core of this concept for all pvp lovers. I hope it will extend to all the campaigns one day.

Muizer

Grunim wrote: »

For the first time this month I had a ton of fun in Cyrodiil. This afternoon I went over to "The Axe" and helped my comrades deny an enemy their IC access and we restored access for our alliance. Fighting had meaning and far more people showed up to play today (myself included) who hadn't been playing so much lately.

I don't mind that this is just a 7 day campaign, I don't play for the end of campaign rewards anyways.

People who want to play IC will leave the campaign and you'll end up fighting for access that nobody is interested in. Just saying the effect on this one campaign will be utterly un-representative of what would happen if it were rolled out across the board. The sole reasonable motivation behind having one gated access campaign is to create a refuge for people who enjoy the regular alliance war and don't care about the IC.

code65536

I just wished there was a standard ruleset 7-day campaign. All the 7-day campaigns have the weird rulesets that nobody really cares for. Why not a standard ruleset 7-day with gated access? Don't really like being locked into a 30-day campaign.

AssaultLemming

Seems pointless. AP is worthless so why would I want to spend any time in cyro at all? To make this worthwhile they need to implement a reason, perhaps double or triple the TV stones in this instance of the IC.

Muizer

AssaultLemming wrote: »

Seems pointless. AP is worthless so why would I want to spend any time in cyro at all? To make this worthwhile they need to implement a reason, perhaps double or triple the TV stones in this instance of the IC.

Well, I used to play a flight sim online. No gear upgrades or whatever and no rewards for winning except a place on the leaderboards. I had a blast.