Nb tank advice

shugg

Hi

Looking for a bit of advice, im running a Nb tank - 15/32/15 breton - i have tanked all the 4 mans on vet pre imp city and done the 2 new dungeons on normal no issues. The problem i have was when i got to the first boss on vet in the imp cells i kept getting crushed, i felt to weak. Un buffed i have 28k hp and 15k stam and magic - i use food to boost my stats and ran v15 black rose and some hist with footmans rings/neck. My defence is 23k spell resist and 20k physical.

I Watched a few vids and copied but was still getting hit for 30k.

The advice im looking for is more around what people are running in unbuffed stats snd defence?
- bar set up im happy with and im not having to much of an issue with regens, my bars are mainly magic ficused running - piace armour, shades, SA, sap, HF - vail blades bar 2 caltrops, beast taunt, shield charge, blur, vigor - soul tether.

Is magic the way to go or are people running full stam?

Oh im on ps4 so havent had imp city long

Kahen40k

IMO magika is the way to go; while unlike Dk, you won't be able to stay alive all by yourself, the offheal provided is amazing and make the healers job way easy, expecially on aoe pulls, plus the dps output is quite decent and very much needed on the new dungeons.
Statwise i suggest around 25k/26k HP, 17k stamina and the rest on magika. As for set, 5 Seducers, 2 Engine and 5 Footman and you will be fine everywhere, just be sure to have siphoning up all the times. An alternative setup that will provide much more dps could be 5 kagrenac's hope, 3 willpower, 2 Engine and 2 willow's path; i didn't try that myself, because i don't have enough cp yet, but i think that it could work pretty well.

As for bars, i run:
1- Impale, Absorb Magic, Funnel, Siphoning, Pierce Armor, Ice Comet
2- Structured Entropy, Absorb Magic, Sap Essence, Caltrops, Inner Fire, Veil of Blades
For bosses or when you don't need aoe, you can swap sap essence with shadows or something else (i usually put merciless resolve).
Stamina can work good as well, but honestly, you are gonna give up so much utility and i think is not worty.

shugg

Well i havent got all the mars to make v16 gear 25k magic and 26k seams a bit out of reach with v15 gear - i tend to use shades alot due to the buff and debuff but alao there attack counts as my light attacks so it regens stam when blocking

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

My build

•45k health 10k magic and stamina

•1400 health regen 700~ magic and stamina regen

•23k armor and spell resistance

•64% more heals from myself with 49% more heals from other players

•1.1k damage

*Full heavy all health everything
5 Orgnum's Scales, 4 Hist Bark - 3 Hist Bark with my staff and 3 Unassailable (health regen)
CP 90 in both healing done and heals taken 95 points in the green one that increase the percentage of resources restored on full heavy attack.

One hand and shield:
Swallow Souls, Shield charge (any morph with serve you here), Dark Cloak (laugh at DoTs), Taunt (any), Siphoning Attacks and Soul Tether

restro (crazy good):
Dark shades (2 shades), Quick Siphon (drop it on a few enemies and hit away, yes the shades count), Caltrops, Refreshing Path, Mark target (nice heal, anti cloak and debuff) and Soul Tether again.

Your self heals plus that regen will make your healer love you, Siphon will heal allies to just a little bit but hey ever heal is good.

Blackjak-33

My post in another section:


I run a (currently) Vet 6 magicka based version of this build, have been since console release. I recently equipped 5 pieces Twilight's Embrace(10% extra healing received bonus) crated gear with 4 pieces Seducer crafted gear(2x magicka regen, 1x max magicka bonus) and switched from the Mage(max magicka) the Ritual(10% bonus healing received) mundus stone. I run Swallow Soul on both bars for the 8% healing received bonus from that as well. Throw in CP and armor bonuses to healing received and I'm sitting around 35-38% extra healing received that is from a healer or initiated by myself. I run s/b on both bars with:

Bar 1:
Sap essence
Swallow Soul
Puncture (group tanking) /Impale (soloing)
Siphoning Attacks
Refreshing Path
Soul Tether or Soul Assault

Bar 2: (I switch up skills in this bar depending on what I'm doing)
Blur
Swallow Soul
Deep Slash
Degeneration
Darkshades/ or Defensive Stance (the healing morph, I slot this against bosses and dungeons for blocking bonus)

I also sometimes throw in cloak and concealed weapon while soloing.

My attributes are 35 magicka /20 health
Magicka regen necklace +magicka enchant
2x block cost reduction rings +stam enchant
Infused health glyphs on major armor, divine magicka on minor armor pieces

My stamina only sits at around 10k, but I hardly block due to high healing taken from siphoning skills and with Refreshing Path constantly down I can literally float away from heavy attacks.

blue magicka/stamina regen food combined with the Seducer set and my magicka never depletes therfore I'm constantly healing lol.

I recently switched back to the Mage mundus stone for more offense. Heals differential seem unnoticeable right now.

notimetocare

This being my preference, partly about keeping myself dps viable, I run a general sap tank focusing on stamina. Running footman, black rose junk 2set (working on eng guardian trading black rose out after I get it). 28k health and 26k stamp. So far, outside of a very bad dos ICP try, I have no stamina sustain issues while blocking full time. I am aiming for egg guardian due to magicka issues. Effective enough for all old vet dungeons at v16. No time to test further.

Bar 1:
Pierce Armor
Swallow soul
Shade
Sap Essence
Defensive Posture
Ult: Veil of Blades (defense/regeneration ult)

Bar 2:
Heroic Slash
Razor Caltrops
Refreshing Path
Double Take
Siphoning Attacks
Ult: Aggressive War Horn (I do not have the tank setup built well for dmg. If I don't need a defensive or regent, I pop this instead)

shugg

These are all good bars but i was after mitigation people where running as well as stats which you all provided. Are u all running vet 16 gear? We tried cet prison again and the mobs still me a ton in my v15 gear -

Aerieth

Your HP and resource stats are just fine. You might want to get a bit more resistances though. I'm running a nord with (extra 6% mitigation) 30k HP, ~31k physical and 28k spell resist with Shadow Barrier and I think I'm in a pretty good spot in terms of total survivability. You can check out the build guide I've made (link in my signature). It's a bit outdated after the 2.1 patch, but principles still stand. There's a post on the last page where I wrote about tweaks I made to the build for the patch and what I'm running right now. With the the build and the above stats, I've tanked Veteran White Gold Tower, so the build certainly works well.

You might also want to check out the build I've linked in the "tweak" post. It's a Magicka build variant which seems to be really strong in this patch, but if you want a more stamina oriented build (to be able to have a Stamina off-spec for dps for example), you can go with mine.

Happy tanking!

shugg

Thank u will check it out after work, i figured my resistance may be an issue hitting 30k spell and 28k physical with the shadow buff - gives me an idea where to focus as im wearing 5h/1l/1m may seitch back to full heavy

remraub16_ESO

OK so I made myself some new gear and I'm now running:

5 Heavy - Willows
1 Light -Song
1 Medium - Song
S&B - Song
Rings - Cyrodiils Light (Magicka regen)
Necklace - VR15 Magicka reduction with Magicka on it.

With tri-stat food:
32k Health
18k magicka
15k Stamina

Magicka Recovery: 1704
Health Recovery: 666 (Develish)
Stamina Recovery: 925

Spell resistance: 17925 (24k with buffs running)
Physical Resistance: 17589 (23k with buffs running)

I've so far tanked VR16 City of Ash and Sewers and that was now a piece of cake. Never run out of resources, pure bliss!

shugg

Yer upgraded my gear and now getting others too do the same as i found most where running v11 and v14 gear which was fine for vdsa but not vet IC dungeons

Kalinblack

http://esoacademy.com/builds/shadow-bulwark/

shugg

A bit late but thank u , i run a full magic nv tank now and cleared all trials and vet dungeons with it.