I'd like to thank ZOS for making Elder Scrolls Online.

Treasure_Goblin

I used to play Diablo 3, and got frustrated because I couldn't find this one item to complete my BIS everything Barbarian. I already had two of the best Demon Hunters ever, a perfect Monk, and two top tier Crusaders. I was so frustrated because I couldn't find this one item, I went to ESO because I thought the game would be more fair.

lol


Needless to say, this game has driven me back to Diablo 3, and showed me what an excellent and refined game it is. No micro transactions, transmogrifications are cheap, you can reroll a trait on an item an unlimited number of times, (I'm up to 16 million per reroll on one item though ._.) It doesn't take a month just to hit the level cap,

but the best part of it?

In Diablo 3, any character can be good in normal mode, in Elder Scrolls Online, 1% of the players get extremely lucky, and are able to just barely survive the hardest challenges, the rest of the players are stuck being miserable piles of pixels. Diablo 3 is kind of a mirror of this game, in that everything that's wrong with ESO, Diablo 3 fixes.

And the loading times, oh man, like 6 seconds in Diablo.

This isn't a thread about QQ, this is to try and tell ZOS to learn from Diablo 3, and copy what it does right.

Also, the DLC in Diablo 3 is a whole new place to explore, not just a killing field. *cough*

Speely

Nah. I am far from a virtuoso (I consider myself a fairly casual player who has a decent grasp of the mechanics) and I regularly do well and feel a sense of achievement when playing this game. I even excel at times. Sounds like you just prefer dungeon romps to MMORPGs, which is fine. It's an entirely different genre that caters to entirely different tastes, after all.

D3 is pretty fun.

Dradhok

Very different games but I agree VOS needs to keep working to make ESO better. I just posted a message about the DLC and I’m sure I’m not the only one that isn’t too excited.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Does Diablo have more than 3 endgame jewelry sets?

Treasure_Goblin

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Does Diablo have more than 3 endgame jewelry sets?

RROG is staple most of the time, but the rest of the jewelry varies almost infinitely.

Treasure_Goblin

Treasure_Goblin wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Does Diablo have more than 3 endgame jewelry sets?

RROG is staple most of the time, but the rest of the jewelry varies almost infinitely.

the only time you see a common ring other than RROG is Unity, because it essentially gives you 50% damage reduction if you're playing solo, (by putting the same ring on your follower)


this was supposed to be an edit*

Mojmir

Treasure_Goblin wrote: »

Treasure_Goblin wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Does Diablo have more than 3 endgame jewelry sets?

RROG is staple most of the time, but the rest of the jewelry varies almost infinitely.

the only time you see a common ring other than RROG is Unity, because it essentially gives you 50% damage reduction if you're playing solo, (by putting the same ring on your follower)


this was supposed to be an edit*

Would be nice to have followers out in eso,that do something besides hang out

UltimaJoe777

Everyone is always trying to compare ESO to other games. ESO is ESO and it always will be and we play it because it is ESO. If you don't like ESO for what it is there's the portal and don't let it hit you on the way out. Seriously, don't 'cause we don't need it stained when it just got waxed.

Mojmir

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Everyone is always trying to compare ESO to other games. ESO is ESO and it always will be and we play it because it is ESO. If you don't like ESO for what it is there's the portal and don't let it hit you on the way out. Seriously, don't 'cause we don't need it stained when it just got waxed.

Maybe that's the problem,the game is struggling for an identity.one thing it could do is learn from previous mistakes and capitalize on their achievements

Sinlar

This one also would like to thank Zenni for making ESO.
Khajiit has been enjoying Tamriel in all it's aspects since closed beta.
This one has seen many changes as time progresses, and hopes to see many more.
The journey continues to unfold, and this walker continues to smile at the wonders, as Khajiit wanders.

PinoZino

Unfair title, dude.

In the wood of General most trees have the race "OMG, ZOS s*ckzzzzzz BECAUSESSSSSS they don't do what I think is best".

Often launched by 12-year old crybabies who don't have a clue about...well just anything. Which is normal at that age.

I was hoping to find another tree in this thread. One that was more balanced, more adult, more focused at the good stuff.

Unfortunately.

Tandor

I'll take the title of the thread at face value, dismiss the OP's rant about another game which I enjoy - mainly as a casual fill-in from time to time due to its relative shallowness as a "hack'n slash" game rather than a conventional MMORPG - and agree with the title itself. I too thank ZOS for producing ESO which I enjoy very much as my main MMORPG "home" these days. I agree with the way Sinlar put it.

NoMoreChillies

My PC broke and i was stuck playing Diablo 3 for a month. Every single time i played i wished it was ESO.

DaveTheMinion

Diablo 3 getting things right??? just go on their forum and look at all the posts moaning about drop rates and the RNG

I am a Diablo fan and still play regularly. The wife and I are now in our 3rd season and still waiting for the Furnace to drop, yes the game was far from great when it first came out, I couldn't even get online for the first week, then all the lag, then the AH killed the game and economy, the new comer had a very hard time finding gear to commit to doing Torment difficulty, and yes the developers stated that the best gear can have a greater drop rate at the higher end of the Torment difficulty, but if you don't have the gear to compete, it's just a case of rinse repeat until your eyes bleed in hope that someday that legendary gear you been after finally drops and what happens then? They change the gear and build specs and add a whole new gear list while updating the difficulty to make it even harder.....

Yes the game is far greater now than it was but it's taken them a few years to get there but it's still has issues.

As for ESO, it's been out a year on PC and the pc gamers deserved some new content and after listening to the community, they wanted PVP content etc, it's only been out a few months on the consoles and already people are demanding new things and wanting the game changed.

I think this game is awesome, and I thank the developers for creating a game I can really get my moneys worth out of it instead of some of these new 5 hour games that have been released in the last few years.

UltimaJoe777

Mojmir wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Everyone is always trying to compare ESO to other games. ESO is ESO and it always will be and we play it because it is ESO. If you don't like ESO for what it is there's the portal and don't let it hit you on the way out. Seriously, don't 'cause we don't need it stained when it just got waxed.

Maybe that's the problem,the game is struggling for an identity.one thing it could do is learn from previous mistakes and capitalize on their achievements

I consider ESO the 6th game in TES series, regardless of the fact it's the first of the lot not single-player. For me, that is its identity.

Quite frankly I also consider all the glitches and bugs just plain TES taboo as well. TESV: Skyrim was still far, far worse on consoles...

Troneon

I would like to thank them for fixing the looking for group tool.

Asherons_Call

Diablo is about as dumbed down as you can get. Boring linear beginning to end in a week

Elektrakosh

I'd like to thank ZOS for making ESO and for realising that having Elder Scrolls in the title does not mean it will be a total Elder Scrolls experience. I liked the game I really did. I made it a point to finish the story due to the great quests and story. Doing it all over again? Not so good. RNG hates me so much that I had to give up on crafting.

Yes, I have learned my lesson and out of pocket for that mistake.

I don't have money to throw at the crown store to enhance my experience of becoming a great and powerful mage in a shorter time via exp Scrolls or potions to extend my pixel life in often very tough battles. I don't have time for time consuming things like researching a trait or finding extremely rare drops to help fasten armour together or find armour sets which seem to not exist in my current experience. I refuse to grind or be forced into an area that involves me being killed, maimed and generally stomped on by more stronger and more powerful players, who dedicated their hard earned time into fine tuning their characters to be the best of the best. The players ask for things that desperately need to be fixed but you seem to cater for the few players who like to see the Nerf hammer being swung around like my half blind uncle swatting at a fly with a baseball bat.

Yes,I'm not happy and so have gone on to playing games that are exactly what I paid for. No dangling of carrots from sticks and no ninja nerfs and most of all...DLCs that are actually extensions of the games with a new plot and no need for grinding for armour or a gall stone from a mutant guppy with six eyes that can only be slain in the ides of September. Okay, I made that last one up but you get the idea.

Sorry ZOS but enough is enough. You had the chance to change things around, improve stuff that needs it and of course fix those bugs. My God! Those bugs!
Instead, I shall step away from the game and wait patiently for Ark, DOOM and Elder Scrolls VI while you folk find a way to fix those [expletive deleted] loading issues and bugs that kick the crap out of gameplay. Then and only then will I consider to return. I shall look at the patch notes here for any sort of improvement of those issues here from time to time in a vain hope of actually being able to enjoy this game once more.

Now my rant is over, I shall bugger off and play a game that rewards me with satisfaction of progression rather than it being a chore doing the same stuff over and over again.

Alucardo

lol this title was so misleading. ZOS must have been reading it like

Kleptobrainiac

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Alucardo

Kleptobrainiac wrote: »

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Agreed.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Elektrakosh wrote: »

Now my rant is over, I shall bugger off and play a game that rewards me with satisfaction of progression rather than it being a chore doing the same stuff over and over again.

Don't forget to migrate to your new game's forum, whatever it is.

Elektrakosh

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Elektrakosh wrote: »

Now my rant is over, I shall bugger off and play a game that rewards me with satisfaction of progression rather than it being a chore doing the same stuff over and over again.

Don't forget to migrate to your new game's forum, whatever it is.

lol!

I don't need a forum for those games. At least I know that someone cares for me judging by your response.

Alucardo

Elektrakosh wrote: »

At least I know that someone cares for me judging by your response.

I always cared. hmu

Elektrakosh

Alucardo wrote: »

Elektrakosh wrote: »

At least I know that someone cares for me judging by your response.

I always cared. hmu

D'awww! Pity I'm not of the PC master race. I may have gotten somewhere with this game, lol no worries though. I'm gonna go for a 300 comments thing here before saying my goodbyes.

In preparation for my future departure... Free hugs!

Alucardo

Elektrakosh wrote: »

]D'awww! Pity I'm not of the PC master race. I may have gotten somewhere with this game, lol no worries though. I'm gonna go for a 300 comments thing here before saying my goodbyes.

In preparation for my future departure... Free hugs!

bae I don't care what platform race you're from, and I will take you up on those free hugs

Elektrakosh

Alucardo wrote: »

Elektrakosh wrote: »

]D'awww! Pity I'm not of the PC master race. I may have gotten somewhere with this game, lol no worries though. I'm gonna go for a 300 comments thing here before saying my goodbyes.

In preparation for my future departure... Free hugs!

bae I don't care what platform race you're from, and I will take you up on those free hugs

Lol thank you for calling me a poop! Free hug for you and 37 comments to go! Now that I'm off topic now I better get off this thread.

PinoZino

Alucardo wrote: »

lol this title was so misleading. ZOS must have been reading it like

I have read your 994 comments. All of them.

They basically all say "ESO or/and ZOS are crap".

Why are you still playing it?

Or is your ranting on a forum a kind of therapy and cheaper as your shrink next door?

Alucardo

PinoZino wrote: »

They basically all say "ESO or/and ZOS are crap".

Why are you still playing it?

Or is your ranting on a forum a kind of therapy and cheaper as your shrink next door?

I'm sorry, are you brain dead? If you read the top I said the post was misleading, and Zenimax were probably reading it like that. It had no reflection on what I thought of the game. Thanks for further proving what an arsehat you are.

slumber_sandb16_ESO

The thing I want them to change the most is the damned RNG thats slapped on everything.

Monster helm?
RNG to get the drop at all
RNG to get the right armour type out of 3 options
RNG to get the right trait out of a dozen or so
Wrong armour type and/or trait? Go right back in for more RNG.

Finally get the helm!
Oh wait.. need the shoulder piece too.
RNG ONCE per day to get the right monster shoulder out of a dozen or so (plus a chance to not get one at all, thanks for that.)
RNG to get the right armour type out of 3
RNG to get the right trait out of a dozen
Wrong armour type and/or trait? Keep doing dailies for weeks or months until you get the right combination.

Collecting Tel Var stones in Imperial City for the Black Rose set.
Get 8000 stones to buy an armour box because buying the pieces directly costs 10000 and only have one trait to choose from
RNG on boxes to get the right armour piece
RNG to get the right trait

Last 3 boxes, thats 21000 tel var stones, I have opened have all been boots.
The feeling this gives me is the same as hitting my face into a brick wall: Zero progress. Frustration.

How about giving players the option to CHOOSE what armour type and trait we get on these items, if not then at least massively increase the drop rates so even if we get the wrong traits we wont have to do dozens more runs to get another wrong trait dropping.
FYI ZOS, I'm at 57 spindleclutch runs so far without a single helm dropping. Can some of you try doing it that many times and see how much fun it is?


A suggestion: Keep the drops rates low but replace all helm drops with a "Monster Token" that you can trade in for a helmet with the armour type and trait of your choice.
Or replace the drops with "Undaunted Trophy", same as in Imperial City. Each daily gives you 1-10 trophies, once you have 60 you can trade them in for a helmet with armour type and trait of your choice.

CGPsaint

This thread explains your username... I purchased Diablo III during a Black Friday sale last year for $20 and then didn't bother playing it for months. MONTHS! Once I popped it in, I felt guilty for neglecting it for so long. I played it religiously for months before burning out on Greater Rifts! D3 is definitely a game that will remain in my "still playing library."