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The "Crown Store" is currently a horrible business practice and I refuse to support it as is.
Honestly, what cheapskates. You have to pay to play the the game, yet the overcharge for their extras as if it's free to play. Have they lost their damn minds? First you overcharge for the crowns okay, that's one strike. Second, you can only buy them in bundles. Why is that a thing? Same goes for the costume bundles, why can't I just buy the individual items I want? There are a few good ones I like, but I'm not going buy a costume pack with two ugly outfits and one good one. Then 750 crowns costs $8.00, they don't even give you the full 800 crowns. And what can I do with that? Oh I can buy a virtual cat, I'm paying $8 for a virtual ass cat. Then the largest crown package costs half the price of the game, what sense does that make? Where the hell do they get these figures for value? All this crap should be between 1.99-4.99 like any normal cosmetic DLC. This is utterly and absolutely ridiculous. Get rid of the bundles and stop overcharging like this was free to play, it wasn't. You should've thought about that before you had GameStop stock their shelves with a $60 price tag.
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NGP✭✭✭Especially those blue motifs 500 crowns. Any one would buy that after they saw them only sold like 400 each in stores?
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✭✭✭✭✭I agree, I would rather they have no income and the game failed meaning I could never play again.
Also their prices are pretty standard to most MMO's these days.
As you've said in the thread title though, if you don't like it then don't support it. Play the game without any of the extra items from the store.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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✭You realize that you can play the game while completely ignoring the crown store, right?Cinn #SorcLivesMatter
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MudcrabsRus✭✭✭RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »Honestly, what cheapskates. You have to pay to play the the game, yet the overcharge for their extras as if it's free to play. Have they lost their damn minds? First you overcharge for the crowns okay, that's one strike. Second, you can only buy them in bundles. Why is that a thing? Same goes for the costume bundles, why can't I just buy the individual items I want? There are a few good ones I like, but I'm not going buy a costume pack with two ugly outfits and one good one. Then 750 crowns costs $8.00, they don't even give you the full 800 crowns. And what can I do with that? Oh I can buy a virtual cat, I'm paying $8 for a virtual ass cat. Then the largest crown package costs half the price of the game, what sense does that make? Where the hell do they get these figures for value? All this crap should be between 1.99-4.99 like any normal cosmetic DLC. This is utterly and absolutely ridiculous. Get rid of the bundles and stop overcharging like this was free to play, it wasn't. You should've thought about that before you had GameStop stock their shelves with a $60 price tag.
You don't need to pay to play the game? No subscription required, and if your talking about plsystation plus, you would have got that anyway for other games.... I do agree with the crowns being overpriced, and also their fly tactics with the DLC " hey it's only 2,500 crowns but wait, you got to pay for the 3,000 pack if you don't have your enitial 500 crowns from launch"2 -
I agree, I would rather they have no income and the game failed meaning I could never play again.
Also their prices are pretty standard to most MMO's these days.
As you've said in the thread title though, if you don't like it then don't support it. Play the game without any of the extra items from the store.
There's nothing standard about charging $8+ for vanity items. They could charge reasonable prices and still make decent income. This, however, is overboard.Rinnegan Dovahkiin: Daedric Prince of Balance7 -
NGP✭✭✭Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »You realize that you can play the game while completely ignoring the crown store, right?
If they broke, we would have no eso to play then.Edited by NGP on September 17, 2015 11:19AM3 -
MudcrabsRus wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »Honestly, what cheapskates. You have to pay to play the the game, yet the overcharge for their extras as if it's free to play. Have they lost their damn minds? First you overcharge for the crowns okay, that's one strike. Second, you can only buy them in bundles. Why is that a thing? Same goes for the costume bundles, why can't I just buy the individual items I want? There are a few good ones I like, but I'm not going buy a costume pack with two ugly outfits and one good one. Then 750 crowns costs $8.00, they don't even give you the full 800 crowns. And what can I do with that? Oh I can buy a virtual cat, I'm paying $8 for a virtual ass cat. Then the largest crown package costs half the price of the game, what sense does that make? Where the hell do they get these figures for value? All this crap should be between 1.99-4.99 like any normal cosmetic DLC. This is utterly and absolutely ridiculous. Get rid of the bundles and stop overcharging like this was free to play, it wasn't. You should've thought about that before you had GameStop stock their shelves with a $60 price tag.
You don't need to pay to play the game? No subscription required, and if your talking about plsystation plus, you would have got that anyway for other games.... I do agree with the crowns being overpriced, and also their fly tactics with the DLC " hey it's only 2,500 crowns but wait, you got to pay for the 3,000 pack if you don't have your enitial 500 crowns from launch"
I had to pay to get it so I had to pay to play it. We didn't sign up and get free copies in the mail.Rinnegan Dovahkiin: Daedric Prince of Balance3 -
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✭Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »You realize that you can play the game while completely ignoring the crown store, right?
Which is pretty much what I have done although I did break down and buy some scrolls to improve some horse skills on a low level toon ( and I wasn't happy about that either).
Even then you can't get away from the silly stuff in the store. Last night I got both the scamp and soul shriven costume off of Molag in the IC. Thanks a bunch. Those two items are really going to help me survive the damage nerf.
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MudcrabsRus✭✭✭RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »MudcrabsRus wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »Honestly, what cheapskates. You have to pay to play the the game, yet the overcharge for their extras as if it's free to play. Have they lost their damn minds? First you overcharge for the crowns okay, that's one strike. Second, you can only buy them in bundles. Why is that a thing? Same goes for the costume bundles, why can't I just buy the individual items I want? There are a few good ones I like, but I'm not going buy a costume pack with two ugly outfits and one good one. Then 750 crowns costs $8.00, they don't even give you the full 800 crowns. And what can I do with that? Oh I can buy a virtual cat, I'm paying $8 for a virtual ass cat. Then the largest crown package costs half the price of the game, what sense does that make? Where the hell do they get these figures for value? All this crap should be between 1.99-4.99 like any normal cosmetic DLC. This is utterly and absolutely ridiculous. Get rid of the bundles and stop overcharging like this was free to play, it wasn't. You should've thought about that before you had GameStop stock their shelves with a $60 price tag.
You don't need to pay to play the game? No subscription required, and if your talking about plsystation plus, you would have got that anyway for other games.... I do agree with the crowns being overpriced, and also their fly tactics with the DLC " hey it's only 2,500 crowns but wait, you got to pay for the 3,000 pack if you don't have your enitial 500 crowns from launch"
I had to pay to get it so I had to pay to play it. We didn't sign up and get free copies in the mail.
Come on now, really? Obviously you had to pay a one off price for your copy of the game, what where you expecting it to be free?2 -
MudcrabsRus wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »MudcrabsRus wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »Honestly, what cheapskates. You have to pay to play the the game, yet the overcharge for their extras as if it's free to play. Have they lost their damn minds? First you overcharge for the crowns okay, that's one strike. Second, you can only buy them in bundles. Why is that a thing? Same goes for the costume bundles, why can't I just buy the individual items I want? There are a few good ones I like, but I'm not going buy a costume pack with two ugly outfits and one good one. Then 750 crowns costs $8.00, they don't even give you the full 800 crowns. And what can I do with that? Oh I can buy a virtual cat, I'm paying $8 for a virtual ass cat. Then the largest crown package costs half the price of the game, what sense does that make? Where the hell do they get these figures for value? All this crap should be between 1.99-4.99 like any normal cosmetic DLC. This is utterly and absolutely ridiculous. Get rid of the bundles and stop overcharging like this was free to play, it wasn't. You should've thought about that before you had GameStop stock their shelves with a $60 price tag.
You don't need to pay to play the game? No subscription required, and if your talking about plsystation plus, you would have got that anyway for other games.... I do agree with the crowns being overpriced, and also their fly tactics with the DLC " hey it's only 2,500 crowns but wait, you got to pay for the 3,000 pack if you don't have your enitial 500 crowns from launch"
I had to pay to get it so I had to pay to play it. We didn't sign up and get free copies in the mail.
Come on now, really? Obviously you had to pay a one off price for your copy of the game, what where you expecting it to be free?
Yes. That's the literal definition of a truly free to play MMO, Zenimax just decided to be stingy with their game.Rinnegan Dovahkiin: Daedric Prince of Balance0 -
NGP✭✭✭RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »I agree, I would rather they have no income and the game failed meaning I could never play again.
Also their prices are pretty standard to most MMO's these days.
As you've said in the thread title though, if you don't like it then don't support it. Play the game without any of the extra items from the store.
There's nothing standard about charging $8+ for vanity items. They could charge reasonable prices and still make decent income. This, however, is overboard.
They could sell cheaper and make more and sell more. Those skins doesn't seem so hard to make. So they could have more funds to fix those problems in the game. Couldn't know what they were planing.0 -
BlackEar✭✭✭✭✭Vote with your wallet.
None is forcing you to pay for crowns. It is merely cosmetics.
If enough people refuse to pay the price the price will change.
I have heard of people who bought epic motifs on the crown store and bought mount training.
To me it is ridiculous but not to them. I would not pay 1 cent for anything I could get in the game, but others might.
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13igTyme✭✭✭MudcrabsRus wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »Honestly, what cheapskates. You have to pay to play the the game, yet the overcharge for their extras as if it's free to play. Have they lost their damn minds? First you overcharge for the crowns okay, that's one strike. Second, you can only buy them in bundles. Why is that a thing? Same goes for the costume bundles, why can't I just buy the individual items I want? There are a few good ones I like, but I'm not going buy a costume pack with two ugly outfits and one good one. Then 750 crowns costs $8.00, they don't even give you the full 800 crowns. And what can I do with that? Oh I can buy a virtual cat, I'm paying $8 for a virtual ass cat. Then the largest crown package costs half the price of the game, what sense does that make? Where the hell do they get these figures for value? All this crap should be between 1.99-4.99 like any normal cosmetic DLC. This is utterly and absolutely ridiculous. Get rid of the bundles and stop overcharging like this was free to play, it wasn't. You should've thought about that before you had GameStop stock their shelves with a $60 price tag.
You don't need to pay to play the game? No subscription required, and if your talking about plsystation plus, you would have got that anyway for other games.... I do agree with the crowns being overpriced, and also their fly tactics with the DLC " hey it's only 2,500 crowns but wait, you got to pay for the 3,000 pack if you don't have your enitial 500 crowns from launch"
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PinoZino✭✭✭✭Get over it. If the market doesn't buy this stuff, they will lower their prices.
And you can bet that they researched before launch the 'ideal price' in terms of profit maximization.
In economics, profit maximization is the short run or long run process by which a firm determines the price and output level that returns the greatest profit.
The price of a product is not what it cost plus a little profit, but what the market likes to pay for.
Example:
a) Item x costs $100 and is resulting in 10 sales. Revenue: $1000
b) The same Item x costs $200 and is resulting in 6 sales. Revenue: $1200
Most companies would go for option b). Sometimes they don't, if they want marketshare or get rid of an old stock.
There's nothing wrong with profit maximization, since most companies use it.
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MudcrabsRus✭✭✭MudcrabsRus wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »Honestly, what cheapskates. You have to pay to play the the game, yet the overcharge for their extras as if it's free to play. Have they lost their damn minds? First you overcharge for the crowns okay, that's one strike. Second, you can only buy them in bundles. Why is that a thing? Same goes for the costume bundles, why can't I just buy the individual items I want? There are a few good ones I like, but I'm not going buy a costume pack with two ugly outfits and one good one. Then 750 crowns costs $8.00, they don't even give you the full 800 crowns. And what can I do with that? Oh I can buy a virtual cat, I'm paying $8 for a virtual ass cat. Then the largest crown package costs half the price of the game, what sense does that make? Where the hell do they get these figures for value? All this crap should be between 1.99-4.99 like any normal cosmetic DLC. This is utterly and absolutely ridiculous. Get rid of the bundles and stop overcharging like this was free to play, it wasn't. You should've thought about that before you had GameStop stock their shelves with a $60 price tag.
You don't need to pay to play the game? No subscription required, and if your talking about plsystation plus, you would have got that anyway for other games.... I do agree with the crowns being overpriced, and also their fly tactics with the DLC " hey it's only 2,500 crowns but wait, you got to pay for the 3,000 pack if you don't have your enitial 500 crowns from launch"
You have to buy the disk or Down load.
Stating the obvious here, I didn't think that was worth mentioning, you know, because you do need to pay for games.0 -
MudcrabsRus✭✭✭Are you guys telling me eso should be a free game, and make their money in the crown store ONLY ? that's crazy.5
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13igTyme✭✭✭MudcrabsRus wrote: »MudcrabsRus wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »Honestly, what cheapskates. You have to pay to play the the game, yet the overcharge for their extras as if it's free to play. Have they lost their damn minds? First you overcharge for the crowns okay, that's one strike. Second, you can only buy them in bundles. Why is that a thing? Same goes for the costume bundles, why can't I just buy the individual items I want? There are a few good ones I like, but I'm not going buy a costume pack with two ugly outfits and one good one. Then 750 crowns costs $8.00, they don't even give you the full 800 crowns. And what can I do with that? Oh I can buy a virtual cat, I'm paying $8 for a virtual ass cat. Then the largest crown package costs half the price of the game, what sense does that make? Where the hell do they get these figures for value? All this crap should be between 1.99-4.99 like any normal cosmetic DLC. This is utterly and absolutely ridiculous. Get rid of the bundles and stop overcharging like this was free to play, it wasn't. You should've thought about that before you had GameStop stock their shelves with a $60 price tag.
You don't need to pay to play the game? No subscription required, and if your talking about plsystation plus, you would have got that anyway for other games.... I do agree with the crowns being overpriced, and also their fly tactics with the DLC " hey it's only 2,500 crowns but wait, you got to pay for the 3,000 pack if you don't have your enitial 500 crowns from launch"
You have to buy the disk or Down load.
Stating the obvious here, I didn't think that was worth mentioning, you know, because you do need to pay for games.
Ever heard of Free to play games. They are free to download and play, but either offer a subscription or micro transactions. Thus the meaning of the term FREE TO PLAY. So yea, I'm going to make a statement about it. Deal with it.PS4 | NA | l3igTyme
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✭Again if you don't approve of the prices, no one is forcing you to buy these cosmetics on the store. I mean c'mon, don't tell me you haven't encountered anything in real life that you think if overprice. It is part of business. If they want to 'overcharge' for some cosmetics items in the crown store, they can. YOU, being the consumer, have to make decisions whether you take out your wallet or not.0 -
Get over it. If the market doesn't buy this stuff, they will lower their prices.
And you can bet that they researched before launch the 'ideal price' in terms of profit maximization.
In economics, profit maximization is the short run or long run process by which a firm determines the price and output level that returns the greatest profit.
The price of a product is not what it cost plus a little profit, but what the market likes to pay for.
Example:
a) Item x costs $100 and is resulting in 10 sales. Revenue: $1000
b) The same Item x costs $200 and is resulting in 6 sales. Revenue: $1200
Most companies would go for option b). Sometimes they don't, if they want marketshare or get rid of an old stock.
There's nothing wrong with profit maximization, since most companies use it.
There's nothing wrong with profit maximisation when the product is actually worth what they're charging. Cheap little vanity items are not worth $8.00. It probably only took them 5 minutes to make and cost them 0 cents. Yet they want to charge $8 for it, get the hell out of here with that.Rinnegan Dovahkiin: Daedric Prince of Balance0 -
Eshelmen✭✭✭✭✭You are not required to buy any crowns. You are not required to buy the DLC. You are not required to buy the mostly cosmetic items either.
You paid for your game and thats all you need.
But if you want to keep up with everyone, suck it up and buy the 3k crown pack and enjoy uour dlc with an extra 500 crowns.
You can buy some awesome edibles, a respec, a few costumes and more....
This is fair imo, for not having to be required to pay a monthly premium to play at all.
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Tannakaobi✭✭✭✭✭While we are at it, how about a bit of life in the vanity pets. My Dog does not do anything. Why no random emotes like licking it's butt, or wagging it's tail? Rip of galore!Edited by Tannakaobi on September 17, 2015 11:34AM1 -
MudcrabsRus✭✭✭MudcrabsRus wrote: »MudcrabsRus wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »Honestly, what cheapskates. You have to pay to play the the game, yet the overcharge for their extras as if it's free to play. Have they lost their damn minds? First you overcharge for the crowns okay, that's one strike. Second, you can only buy them in bundles. Why is that a thing? Same goes for the costume bundles, why can't I just buy the individual items I want? There are a few good ones I like, but I'm not going buy a costume pack with two ugly outfits and one good one. Then 750 crowns costs $8.00, they don't even give you the full 800 crowns. And what can I do with that? Oh I can buy a virtual cat, I'm paying $8 for a virtual ass cat. Then the largest crown package costs half the price of the game, what sense does that make? Where the hell do they get these figures for value? All this crap should be between 1.99-4.99 like any normal cosmetic DLC. This is utterly and absolutely ridiculous. Get rid of the bundles and stop overcharging like this was free to play, it wasn't. You should've thought about that before you had GameStop stock their shelves with a $60 price tag.
You don't need to pay to play the game? No subscription required, and if your talking about plsystation plus, you would have got that anyway for other games.... I do agree with the crowns being overpriced, and also their fly tactics with the DLC " hey it's only 2,500 crowns but wait, you got to pay for the 3,000 pack if you don't have your enitial 500 crowns from launch"
You have to buy the disk or Down load.
Stating the obvious here, I didn't think that was worth mentioning, you know, because you do need to pay for games.
Ever heard of Free to play games. They are free to download and play, but either offer a subscription or micro transactions. Thus the meaning of the term FREE TO PLAY. So yea, I'm going to make a statement about it. Deal with it.
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13igTyme✭✭✭MudcrabsRus wrote: »MudcrabsRus wrote: »MudcrabsRus wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »Honestly, what cheapskates. You have to pay to play the the game, yet the overcharge for their extras as if it's free to play. Have they lost their damn minds? First you overcharge for the crowns okay, that's one strike. Second, you can only buy them in bundles. Why is that a thing? Same goes for the costume bundles, why can't I just buy the individual items I want? There are a few good ones I like, but I'm not going buy a costume pack with two ugly outfits and one good one. Then 750 crowns costs $8.00, they don't even give you the full 800 crowns. And what can I do with that? Oh I can buy a virtual cat, I'm paying $8 for a virtual ass cat. Then the largest crown package costs half the price of the game, what sense does that make? Where the hell do they get these figures for value? All this crap should be between 1.99-4.99 like any normal cosmetic DLC. This is utterly and absolutely ridiculous. Get rid of the bundles and stop overcharging like this was free to play, it wasn't. You should've thought about that before you had GameStop stock their shelves with a $60 price tag.
You don't need to pay to play the game? No subscription required, and if your talking about plsystation plus, you would have got that anyway for other games.... I do agree with the crowns being overpriced, and also their fly tactics with the DLC " hey it's only 2,500 crowns but wait, you got to pay for the 3,000 pack if you don't have your enitial 500 crowns from launch"
You have to buy the disk or Down load.
Stating the obvious here, I didn't think that was worth mentioning, you know, because you do need to pay for games.
Ever heard of Free to play games. They are free to download and play, but either offer a subscription or micro transactions. Thus the meaning of the term FREE TO PLAY. So yea, I'm going to make a statement about it. Deal with it.
Well..... You payed for it, how does it feel?
Terrible.PS4 | NA | l3igTyme
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✭✭✭✭✭If they lowered the prices I couldn't see them making much money from the Crown store, and most likely expect losses. There's not much in there worth buying, and the costumes/mounts are account wide, so you only need to purchase them once. In my last game you had to buy a costume and mount for EVERY character on your account, and they were just as expensive. While you have your right to complain, I disagree3 -
Again if you don't approve of the prices, no one is forcing you to buy these cosmetics on the store. I mean c'mon, don't tell me you haven't encountered anything in real life that you think if overprice. It is part of business. If they want to 'overcharge' for some cosmetics items in the crown store, they can. YOU, being the consumer, have to make decisions whether you take out your wallet or not.
Yes I've seen overpriced items, but I didn't already own the item. I'd be extremely angry if I bought $600 dollar propane and the propane accessories were $550. That's what this is, they're overcharging for ESO accessories.Rinnegan Dovahkiin: Daedric Prince of Balance0 -
MudcrabsRus✭✭✭MudcrabsRus wrote: »MudcrabsRus wrote: »MudcrabsRus wrote: »RinneganDovahkiin wrote: »Honestly, what cheapskates. You have to pay to play the the game, yet the overcharge for their extras as if it's free to play. Have they lost their damn minds? First you overcharge for the crowns okay, that's one strike. Second, you can only buy them in bundles. Why is that a thing? Same goes for the costume bundles, why can't I just buy the individual items I want? There are a few good ones I like, but I'm not going buy a costume pack with two ugly outfits and one good one. Then 750 crowns costs $8.00, they don't even give you the full 800 crowns. And what can I do with that? Oh I can buy a virtual cat, I'm paying $8 for a virtual ass cat. Then the largest crown package costs half the price of the game, what sense does that make? Where the hell do they get these figures for value? All this crap should be between 1.99-4.99 like any normal cosmetic DLC. This is utterly and absolutely ridiculous. Get rid of the bundles and stop overcharging like this was free to play, it wasn't. You should've thought about that before you had GameStop stock their shelves with a $60 price tag.
You don't need to pay to play the game? No subscription required, and if your talking about plsystation plus, you would have got that anyway for other games.... I do agree with the crowns being overpriced, and also their fly tactics with the DLC " hey it's only 2,500 crowns but wait, you got to pay for the 3,000 pack if you don't have your enitial 500 crowns from launch"
You have to buy the disk or Down load.
Stating the obvious here, I didn't think that was worth mentioning, you know, because you do need to pay for games.
Ever heard of Free to play games. They are free to download and play, but either offer a subscription or micro transactions. Thus the meaning of the term FREE TO PLAY. So yea, I'm going to make a statement about it. Deal with it.
Well..... You payed for it, how does it feel?
Terrible.
Good, you should stick with your so called "free games" pay to win (cough) not really free (cough) (cough)0
