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Did we really need another campaign?

BigTone
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Was the addition of Trueflame really necessary? I do not believe so since all you see on the forums are people complaining that it is too difficult to find decent fighting in Cyro. Adding another campaign just makes us spread out even more. Considering the vastness of Cyro, the sewers, and the Imperial City itself it is harder and harder to find enemies.Your thoughts?
Edited by BigTone on September 5, 2015 4:32PM
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Did we really need another campaign? 89 votes

yes
60%
AlomarMisterJimothywayfarerxkevlarto_ESOHagbard_OMMojmirParadoxRDMyers65b14_ESORylanalolo_01b16_ESOEtanielanitajoneb17_ESORivan12DaraughGregLarsSRosveenLord_BidrMalthorneRev Rielle 54 votes
no
39%
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  • Lord_Draevan
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    yes
    For now it's good, the 200+ queues for Imperial City were too long. ZOS can close it once things simmer down.
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  • Ishammael
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    yes
    But they also should increase pop caps too.
  • Psilent
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    yes
    A lot of people have jobs and can't play at all hours; so when they would login after work, all the campaigns were locked and they were stuck waiting in a long queue. Trueflame solved this issue.

    The reason why Cyrodiil is so empty is due to population caps in each campaign being very small compared to what the map was supposed to handle.

    They need to lock up Imperial City to where you need all your home keeps plus one enemy keep to enter it, it would draw people out into Cyrodiil again for pvp.
  • Etaniel
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    yes
    We've had 3 additional campaigns here in EU and they are all locked/high in the evening. What's needed is higher popcaps, not more campaigns. Locked campaigns can feel empty as well
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  • ToRelax
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    Etaniel wrote: »
    We've had 3 additional campaigns here in EU and they are all locked/high in the evening. What's needed is higher popcaps, not more campaigns. Locked campaigns can feel empty as well

    Honestly, I have no idea how many campaigns or what population limits we need before seeing what happens with gated access.
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  • vortexman11
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    no
    Come one come all! Farm AP to get the permanent emperor title once the new campaigns are closed down after all the PvE-ers finish their content!
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    EP | Phobos | Altmer Nightblade | LvL 50 | Rank 26 |
    EP | Cheezus Sliced | Argonian Templar | LvL 50 | Rank 30 |
    EP | Eterno Tempesta | Altmer Sorcerer | LvL 50 | Rank 33 |
    DC | Vortexman | Dunmer DragonKnight | LvL 50 | Rank 12 |
    DC | Divine Storm | Altmer Sorcerer | LvL 50 | Rank 04 |
    EP | Pocket Vortex | Bosmer Templar | LvL 50 | Rank 24 |
    EP | Vortexman | Redguard DragonKnight | LvL 50 | Rank 28 |
    EP | Fungal Growth | Argonian Warden | LvL 50 | Rank 26 |
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  • ToRelax
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    Come one come all! Farm AP to get the permanent emperor title once the new campaigns are closed down after all the PvE-ers finish their content!

    We thought of it. I'd laugh if that actually works.
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  • vortexman11
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    no
    ToRelax wrote: »
    Come one come all! Farm AP to get the permanent emperor title once the new campaigns are closed down after all the PvE-ers finish their content!

    We thought of it. I'd laugh if that actually works.

    It's happened almost every other time a campaign has closed, so I don't see why it wouldn't happen this time.
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    EP | Phobos | Altmer Nightblade | LvL 50 | Rank 26 |
    EP | Cheezus Sliced | Argonian Templar | LvL 50 | Rank 30 |
    EP | Eterno Tempesta | Altmer Sorcerer | LvL 50 | Rank 33 |
    DC | Vortexman | Dunmer DragonKnight | LvL 50 | Rank 12 |
    DC | Divine Storm | Altmer Sorcerer | LvL 50 | Rank 04 |
    EP | Pocket Vortex | Bosmer Templar | LvL 50 | Rank 24 |
    EP | Vortexman | Redguard DragonKnight | LvL 50 | Rank 28 |
    EP | Fungal Growth | Argonian Warden | LvL 50 | Rank 26 |
    EP | Eternal Guardian | Bosmer Warden | LvL 50 | Rank 13 |
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  • ToRelax
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    ToRelax wrote: »
    Come one come all! Farm AP to get the permanent emperor title once the new campaigns are closed down after all the PvE-ers finish their content!

    We thought of it. I'd laugh if that actually works.

    It's happened almost every other time a campaign has closed, so I don't see why it wouldn't happen this time.

    Well it is not sure yet that campaigns will be closed, neither is wich ones.
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  • vortexman11
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    no
    ToRelax wrote: »
    ToRelax wrote: »
    Come one come all! Farm AP to get the permanent emperor title once the new campaigns are closed down after all the PvE-ers finish their content!

    We thought of it. I'd laugh if that actually works.

    It's happened almost every other time a campaign has closed, so I don't see why it wouldn't happen this time.

    Well it is not sure yet that campaigns will be closed, neither is wich ones.

    That's true, Im just assuming PvP will die back down and that extra campaign will be useless (on NA at least). Whether it's left open is up to ZOS though, so you're right.
    Edited by vortexman11 on September 5, 2015 9:21PM
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    EP | Phobos | Altmer Nightblade | LvL 50 | Rank 26 |
    EP | Cheezus Sliced | Argonian Templar | LvL 50 | Rank 30 |
    EP | Eterno Tempesta | Altmer Sorcerer | LvL 50 | Rank 33 |
    DC | Vortexman | Dunmer DragonKnight | LvL 50 | Rank 12 |
    DC | Divine Storm | Altmer Sorcerer | LvL 50 | Rank 04 |
    EP | Pocket Vortex | Bosmer Templar | LvL 50 | Rank 24 |
    EP | Vortexman | Redguard DragonKnight | LvL 50 | Rank 28 |
    EP | Fungal Growth | Argonian Warden | LvL 50 | Rank 26 |
    EP | Eternal Guardian | Bosmer Warden | LvL 50 | Rank 13 |
    and a few other random toons

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  • ThyIronFist
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    yes
    The people that voted "no" must enjoy 300+ queues.
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  • AbraXuSeXile
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    no
    All campaigns are dead even though pop locked, stop adding more... raise pop and less campaigns.
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  • frozywozy
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    yes
    Since they opened Trueflame, the Q during primetime for EP on Azura Star dropped from 120 to 20.

    Great initiative ZOS!
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    • Fix Volendrung (spawn location - weapon white on the map causing the wielder to keep it forever - usable with emperorship)
    • Remove / Change CPs System, remove current CP/noCP campaigns and introduce one 30days with lock, one with no locks
    • Fix crashes when approaching a keep under attack because of bad / wrong rendering prioritization system
    • Change emperorship to value faction score points and not alliance points - see this and this
    • Fix long loading screens (mostly caused by players joining group out of rendering range)
    • Add 2 more quickslots to the wheel or add a different wheel for sieges weaponry only
    • Fix Balista Bolts not dealing damage on walls or doors if deployed at a certain place
    • Release bigger battlegrounds with 8 to 16 players per team and only two teams
    • Fix the permanent block animation - see examples : link1 link2 link3 link4 link5
    • Gives players 10 minutes to get back into Cyrodiil after relogging / crashing
    • Add a function to ignore the Claiming system of useless rewards
    • Improve the Mailing System / Rewards of the Worthy stacking
    • Assign specific group sizes to specific campaigns (24-16-8)
    • Make forward camps impossible to place near objectives
    • Make snares only available from ground effects abilities
    • Change emperorship to last minimum 24hours
    • Fix body sliding after cc breaking too quickly
    • Remove Block Casting through Battle Spirit
    • Fix the speed drop while jumping - see video
    • Fix loading screens when keeps upgrade
    • Fix Rams going crazy (spinning around)
    • Bring back dynamic ulti regeneration
    • Fix speed bug (abilities locked)
    • Introduce dynamic population
    • Lower population cap by 20%
    • Add Snare Immunity potions
    • Bring resurrection sickness
    • Fix character desync
    • Fix cc breaking bug
    • Fix gap closer bug
    • Fix health desync
    • Fix combat bug
    • Fix streak bug
    • Fix server lag
  • Poxheart
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    no
    The people that voted "no" must enjoy 300+ queues.

    No, just on the NA server.
    Unsubbed and no longer playing, but still checking the Alliance War forum for the lulz.

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  • Rayste
    Rayste
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    yes
    BigTone wrote: »
    Was the addition of Trueflame really necessary? I do not believe so since all you see on the forums are people complaining that it is too difficult to find decent fighting in Cyro. Adding another campaign just makes us spread out even more. Considering the vastness of Cyro, the sewers, and the Imperial City itself it is harder and harder to find enemies.Your thoughts?

    TrueFlame gave the queues some rest BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY gave us another 30 day campaign. We may in fact lose a campaign once things quiet down, but it wont be Trueflame. Chill or THorn could go away and no one would miss them.
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  • driosketch
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    Rayste wrote: »
    BigTone wrote: »
    Was the addition of Trueflame really necessary? I do not believe so since all you see on the forums are people complaining that it is too difficult to find decent fighting in Cyro. Adding another campaign just makes us spread out even more. Considering the vastness of Cyro, the sewers, and the Imperial City itself it is harder and harder to find enemies.Your thoughts?

    TrueFlame gave the queues some rest BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY gave us another 30 day campaign. We may in fact lose a campaign once things quiet down, but it wont be Trueflame. Chill or THorn could go away and no one would miss them.

    This.

    Last time I was on, AS pop locked, True 3 bars, Had AD/DC pop locked and EP 2 bars. Chill and Thorn were pop locked for EP, everyone else at 1-2 bars, while EP had emp and most of the map. Also on Chill EP had all the scrolls and all the points while the other two had 0 score. My bet is Chill will be the one to get killed off.
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  • danno8
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    Well in NA they just needed an all EP only campaign spilt into 3 teams so they can fight each other, and there would still be enough to fill the other 4 campaigns at prime time.
  • Draxys
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    no
    They should have increased pop caps. I would bet that they added it so that the crying pve players who are shouting and banging their fists on the floor would have a higher chance of farming stones without running into enemies
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  • RDMyers65b14_ESO
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    yes
    I have heard that the higher pops caused more lag and so that is not the answer. I can see the wisdom of changing to gated access. Even with the added campaign, there is a 100+ queue on Azura's at night.
  • Mr_Nobody
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    no
    on NA theres basically 1 campaign that is pop locked on all 3 sides ~

    4 other ones have 1 side locked. Ive been on Chillrend for the last week where ad/dc had 1-2 bars at most with EP pop locked 24/7. I had some fun and farmed some good amount of stones! Its bad large guilds' decisions that choose to play on locked campaigns whilst making their guildies to wait hours to play and other campaigns dead and/or 1 sided.
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  • Rylana
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    yes
    Zazeer needing something new to conquer.

    Also Azuras was lulzy with 200 queues. Definitely needed.
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  • DisgracefulMind
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    yes
    I really like Trueflame, I'm glad they added it.
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  • kevlarto_ESO
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    yes
    seems like both 30 days are now locked across the board east coast prime time, nice to see, might need to add another if it keeps going. NA/PC
  • BigTone
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    no
    We have dead campaigns and open land with no players everywhere. Raising pop cap and forcing some players to play on servers like Chillrend or Thornblade would eliminate PvDooring and help spread out players. Now we have poeple sitting in 70 person q's saying "oh I'll wait" instead of playing on the other campaigns.
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  • Yakidafi
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    same old same old
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