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Sorcs with 14k Shileds, Try To Kill Them
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✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Are you kidding me? Shields are trash now. At least for players that have an outside life and dont have 300 CP to fully unlock bastion.
my shield is about 7k. that won't even stop a wrecking blow, and the unmitigated damage will hit me. Yeah I could run a magicka stacking build and get it a bit higher but i doubt I will get it back to where it was in the last patch even with 100 points in bastion.
Have you ever wondered... If they are truly trash as you say, why do you still use them?!
Have you every played a sorc? no class heal, hardened ward is literally a sorc's only defence.
So you mean, it's a useful spell and not trash at all for a sorc!
And yes, I have a VR14 sorc and spam shields like all the rest of us since it's what makes us so OPed, that and our mobility.
BTW: we do have a class heal Dark Echange / Dark Deal.There used to be a time when most sorcs had it on their quickbar, until we noticed that we didn't have to bolt + dark deal no more and just face tank everything while spamming our shields.
Was always a bad skill except for kiting or a group large and strong enough to keep you alive with no stam.
The time when "most" Sorcs had it on their bar was when people didn't know to interrupt or cc lol.
Now it's hardly better than dragon blood. Have you seen a DK using it since 2.1? Rediculous.
ToRelax dark deal is no longer a channel. Its instant cast now. Pretty cost effective too. Too bad it only heals for 1.5 k or so in pvp...
Yes, I know, I was commenting on the heal here. It can be useful if you have a space for it, but only as a means to restore stamina/magicka.DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...
Elo'dryel - Sorc - AR 50 - Hopesfire - EP EU0 -
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✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Are you kidding me? Shields are trash now. At least for players that have an outside life and dont have 300 CP to fully unlock bastion.
my shield is about 7k. that won't even stop a wrecking blow, and the unmitigated damage will hit me. Yeah I could run a magicka stacking build and get it a bit higher but i doubt I will get it back to where it was in the last patch even with 100 points in bastion.
Have you ever wondered... If they are truly trash as you say, why do you still use them?!
Have you every played a sorc? no class heal, hardened ward is literally a sorc's only defence.
So you mean, it's a useful spell and not trash at all for a sorc!
And yes, I have a VR14 sorc and spam shields like all the rest of us since it's what makes us so OPed, that and our mobility.
BTW: we do have a class heal Dark Echange / Dark Deal.There used to be a time when most sorcs had it on their quickbar, until we noticed that we didn't have to bolt + dark deal no more and just face tank everything while spamming our shields.
Was always a bad skill except for kiting or a group large and strong enough to keep you alive with no stam.
The time when "most" Sorcs had it on their bar was when people didn't know to interrupt or cc lol.
Now it's hardly better than dragon blood. Have you seen a DK using it since 2.1? Rediculous.
@ToRelax dark deal is no longer a channel. Its instant cast now. Pretty cost effective too. Too bad it only heals for 1.5 k or so in pvp...
1s cast time, not instant, and it doesn't heal at the end of the 1s from my experience but after a short delay. I would not rely on it.1 -
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✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Are you kidding me? Shields are trash now. At least for players that have an outside life and dont have 300 CP to fully unlock bastion.
my shield is about 7k. that won't even stop a wrecking blow, and the unmitigated damage will hit me. Yeah I could run a magicka stacking build and get it a bit higher but i doubt I will get it back to where it was in the last patch even with 100 points in bastion.
Have you ever wondered... If they are truly trash as you say, why do you still use them?!
Have you every played a sorc? no class heal, hardened ward is literally a sorc's only defence.
So you mean, it's a useful spell and not trash at all for a sorc!
And yes, I have a VR14 sorc and spam shields like all the rest of us since it's what makes us so OPed, that and our mobility.
BTW: we do have a class heal Dark Echange / Dark Deal.There used to be a time when most sorcs had it on their quickbar, until we noticed that we didn't have to bolt + dark deal no more and just face tank everything while spamming our shields.
Was always a bad skill except for kiting or a group large and strong enough to keep you alive with no stam.
The time when "most" Sorcs had it on their bar was when people didn't know to interrupt or cc lol.
Now it's hardly better than dragon blood. Have you seen a DK using it since 2.1? Rediculous.
ToRelax dark deal is no longer a channel. Its instant cast now. Pretty cost effective too. Too bad it only heals for 1.5 k or so in pvp...
1s cast time, not instant, and it doesn't heal at the end of the 1s from my experience but after a short delay. I would not rely on it.
Sry, that is true as well, didn't see he said it was instant.DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...
Elo'dryel - Sorc - AR 50 - Hopesfire - EP EU0 -
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my shield is about 7k. that won't even stop a wrecking blow, and the unmitigated damage will hit me. Yeah I could run a magicka stacking build and get it a bit higher but i doubt I will get it back to where it was in the last patch even with 100 points in bastion.
Have you ever wondered... If they are truly trash as you say, why do you still use them?!
Have you every played a sorc? no class heal, hardened ward is literally a sorc's only defence.
So you mean, it's a useful spell and not trash at all for a sorc!
And yes, I have a VR14 sorc and spam shields like all the rest of us since it's what makes us so OPed, that and our mobility.
BTW: we do have a class heal Dark Echange / Dark Deal.There used to be a time when most sorcs had it on their quickbar, until we noticed that we didn't have to bolt + dark deal no more and just face tank everything while spamming our shields.
Was always a bad skill except for kiting or a group large and strong enough to keep you alive with no stam.
The time when "most" Sorcs had it on their bar was when people didn't know to interrupt or cc lol.
Now it's hardly better than dragon blood. Have you seen a DK using it since 2.1? Rediculous.
@ToRelax dark deal is no longer a channel. Its instant cast now. Pretty cost effective too. Too bad it only heals for 1.5 k or so in pvp...
1s cast time, not instant, and it doesn't heal at the end of the 1s from my experience but after a short delay. I would not rely on it.
Rly? Hmm Ive mostly used it after a long streak run. Get out of dodge and reload kind of thing0 -
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✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Are you kidding me? Shields are trash now. At least for players that have an outside life and dont have 300 CP to fully unlock bastion.
my shield is about 7k. that won't even stop a wrecking blow, and the unmitigated damage will hit me. Yeah I could run a magicka stacking build and get it a bit higher but i doubt I will get it back to where it was in the last patch even with 100 points in bastion.
Have you ever wondered... If they are truly trash as you say, why do you still use them?!
Have you every played a sorc? no class heal, hardened ward is literally a sorc's only defence.
So you mean, it's a useful spell and not trash at all for a sorc!
And yes, I have a VR14 sorc and spam shields like all the rest of us since it's what makes us so OPed, that and our mobility.
BTW: we do have a class heal Dark Echange / Dark Deal.There used to be a time when most sorcs had it on their quickbar, until we noticed that we didn't have to bolt + dark deal no more and just face tank everything while spamming our shields.
Was always a bad skill except for kiting or a group large and strong enough to keep you alive with no stam.
The time when "most" Sorcs had it on their bar was when people didn't know to interrupt or cc lol.
Now it's hardly better than dragon blood. Have you seen a DK using it since 2.1? Rediculous.
ToRelax dark deal is no longer a channel. Its instant cast now. Pretty cost effective too. Too bad it only heals for 1.5 k or so in pvp...
1s cast time, not instant, and it doesn't heal at the end of the 1s from my experience but after a short delay. I would not rely on it.
Sry, that is true as well, didn't see he said it was instant.
I've tried it, but I would rather use the poorly thought out 1.3s cast time clannfear for the heal alone (not to mention that zos feels the pet should be used for a heal) over it.1 -
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✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Are you kidding me? Shields are trash now. At least for players that have an outside life and dont have 300 CP to fully unlock bastion.
my shield is about 7k. that won't even stop a wrecking blow, and the unmitigated damage will hit me. Yeah I could run a magicka stacking build and get it a bit higher but i doubt I will get it back to where it was in the last patch even with 100 points in bastion.
Have you ever wondered... If they are truly trash as you say, why do you still use them?!
Have you every played a sorc? no class heal, hardened ward is literally a sorc's only defence.
So you mean, it's a useful spell and not trash at all for a sorc!
And yes, I have a VR14 sorc and spam shields like all the rest of us since it's what makes us so OPed, that and our mobility.
BTW: we do have a class heal Dark Echange / Dark Deal.There used to be a time when most sorcs had it on their quickbar, until we noticed that we didn't have to bolt + dark deal no more and just face tank everything while spamming our shields.
Was always a bad skill except for kiting or a group large and strong enough to keep you alive with no stam.
The time when "most" Sorcs had it on their bar was when people didn't know to interrupt or cc lol.
Now it's hardly better than dragon blood. Have you seen a DK using it since 2.1? Rediculous.
ToRelax dark deal is no longer a channel. Its instant cast now. Pretty cost effective too. Too bad it only heals for 1.5 k or so in pvp...
1s cast time, not instant, and it doesn't heal at the end of the 1s from my experience but after a short delay. I would not rely on it.
Sry, that is true as well, didn't see he said it was instant.
I've tried it, but I would rather use the poorly thought out 1.3s cast time clannfear for the heal alone (not to mention that zos feels the pet should be used for a heal) over it.
Actually, they added the casttime a patch after the heal, because that would be too op otherwise.
DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...
Elo'dryel - Sorc - AR 50 - Hopesfire - EP EU0 -
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✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Are you kidding me? Shields are trash now. At least for players that have an outside life and dont have 300 CP to fully unlock bastion.
my shield is about 7k. that won't even stop a wrecking blow, and the unmitigated damage will hit me. Yeah I could run a magicka stacking build and get it a bit higher but i doubt I will get it back to where it was in the last patch even with 100 points in bastion.
Have you ever wondered... If they are truly trash as you say, why do you still use them?!
Have you every played a sorc? no class heal, hardened ward is literally a sorc's only defence.
So you mean, it's a useful spell and not trash at all for a sorc!
And yes, I have a VR14 sorc and spam shields like all the rest of us since it's what makes us so OPed, that and our mobility.
BTW: we do have a class heal Dark Echange / Dark Deal.There used to be a time when most sorcs had it on their quickbar, until we noticed that we didn't have to bolt + dark deal no more and just face tank everything while spamming our shields.
Was always a bad skill except for kiting or a group large and strong enough to keep you alive with no stam.
The time when "most" Sorcs had it on their bar was when people didn't know to interrupt or cc lol.
Now it's hardly better than dragon blood. Have you seen a DK using it since 2.1? Rediculous.
ToRelax dark deal is no longer a channel. Its instant cast now. Pretty cost effective too. Too bad it only heals for 1.5 k or so in pvp...
1s cast time, not instant, and it doesn't heal at the end of the 1s from my experience but after a short delay. I would not rely on it.
Sry, that is true as well, didn't see he said it was instant.
I've tried it, but I would rather use the poorly thought out 1.3s cast time clannfear for the heal alone (not to mention that zos feels the pet should be used for a heal) over it.
Actually, they added the casttime a patch after the heal, because that would be too op otherwise.
At the cost of making the other morph, and the clannfear as a tank pet, both less effective.0 -
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✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Are you kidding me? Shields are trash now. At least for players that have an outside life and dont have 300 CP to fully unlock bastion.
my shield is about 7k. that won't even stop a wrecking blow, and the unmitigated damage will hit me. Yeah I could run a magicka stacking build and get it a bit higher but i doubt I will get it back to where it was in the last patch even with 100 points in bastion.
Have you ever wondered... If they are truly trash as you say, why do you still use them?!
Have you every played a sorc? no class heal, hardened ward is literally a sorc's only defence.
So you mean, it's a useful spell and not trash at all for a sorc!
And yes, I have a VR14 sorc and spam shields like all the rest of us since it's what makes us so OPed, that and our mobility.
BTW: we do have a class heal Dark Echange / Dark Deal.There used to be a time when most sorcs had it on their quickbar, until we noticed that we didn't have to bolt + dark deal no more and just face tank everything while spamming our shields.
Was always a bad skill except for kiting or a group large and strong enough to keep you alive with no stam.
The time when "most" Sorcs had it on their bar was when people didn't know to interrupt or cc lol.
Now it's hardly better than dragon blood. Have you seen a DK using it since 2.1? Rediculous.
ToRelax dark deal is no longer a channel. Its instant cast now. Pretty cost effective too. Too bad it only heals for 1.5 k or so in pvp...
1s cast time, not instant, and it doesn't heal at the end of the 1s from my experience but after a short delay. I would not rely on it.
Sry, that is true as well, didn't see he said it was instant.
I've tried it, but I would rather use the poorly thought out 1.3s cast time clannfear for the heal alone (not to mention that zos feels the pet should be used for a heal) over it.
Actually, they added the casttime a patch after the heal, because that would be too op otherwise.
At the cost of making the other morph, and the clannfear as a tank pet, both less effective.
Indeed. I had a fully thought out AoE build with Volatile Familiar when 1.6 came on PTS, but it still had some bugs. Instead of fixing them, they nerfed the skill.
ps: think this is getting a bit off topic now, I'll stop here
DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...
Elo'dryel - Sorc - AR 50 - Hopesfire - EP EU0 -
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✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »Are you kidding me? Shields are trash now. At least for players that have an outside life and dont have 300 CP to fully unlock bastion.
my shield is about 7k. that won't even stop a wrecking blow, and the unmitigated damage will hit me. Yeah I could run a magicka stacking build and get it a bit higher but i doubt I will get it back to where it was in the last patch even with 100 points in bastion.
Have you ever wondered... If they are truly trash as you say, why do you still use them?!
Have you every played a sorc? no class heal, hardened ward is literally a sorc's only defence.
So you mean, it's a useful spell and not trash at all for a sorc!
And yes, I have a VR14 sorc and spam shields like all the rest of us since it's what makes us so OPed, that and our mobility.
BTW: we do have a class heal Dark Echange / Dark Deal.There used to be a time when most sorcs had it on their quickbar, until we noticed that we didn't have to bolt + dark deal no more and just face tank everything while spamming our shields.
Was always a bad skill except for kiting or a group large and strong enough to keep you alive with no stam.
The time when "most" Sorcs had it on their bar was when people didn't know to interrupt or cc lol.
Now it's hardly better than dragon blood. Have you seen a DK using it since 2.1? Rediculous.
ToRelax dark deal is no longer a channel. Its instant cast now. Pretty cost effective too. Too bad it only heals for 1.5 k or so in pvp...
1s cast time, not instant, and it doesn't heal at the end of the 1s from my experience but after a short delay. I would not rely on it.
Sry, that is true as well, didn't see he said it was instant.
I've tried it, but I would rather use the poorly thought out 1.3s cast time clannfear for the heal alone (not to mention that zos feels the pet should be used for a heal) over it.
Actually, they added the casttime a patch after the heal, because that would be too op otherwise.
At the cost of making the other morph, and the clannfear as a tank pet, both less effective.
Indeed. I had a fully thought out AoE build with Volatile Familiar when 1.6 came on PTS, but it still had some bugs. Instead of fixing them, they nerfed the skill.
ps: think this is getting a bit off topic now, I'll stop here
Guess we could stop that, but it is a good point. Sorcs would run several builds of zos was willing to let different skills work for different builds, rather than buffing and nerfing skills so all sorcs run an almost identical build. Would cut down on the "all sorcs are shield spammers' mentality at least.1