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I believe detect potions are being nerfed in the wrong way.

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They don't need any duration nerf at all.

They need to only give vision of hidden units to the player that drinks the potion. That is how potions work...

The idea of giving vision of hidden units to allies for ANY duration over 5 seconds -- which is how long it takes to kill a Nightblade after popping the pot -- is like making allies' damage go through sorc shields or bonus armor and spell resist or negate templar heals for the duration. It just negates a core class mechanic, which is poor design overall.
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  • Maulkin
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    Well yes they should fix that. But also 45" was still very long.
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  • Cathexis
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    I agree. They also need to boost nirn root nodes and other rare herbs.
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  • KenaPKK
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    Cathexis wrote: »
    I agree. They also need to boost nirn root nodes and other rare herbs.

    Thank you :)

    And yes, I agree that nirn should drop more often now that it's been nerfed.
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  • Darlon
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    Make a few more topics about detect pots....
  • Dracane
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    I think this nerf was indeed a bit wrong.
    They should increase the duration again by a bit, but make it so, that only the drinker of the potion gets the detection benefit. I

    Of course if he attacks a cloaked Nightblade, he becomes visibile for a short moment. But that's not due to the detection potion itself.
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  • Master_Kas
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    Dracane wrote: »
    I think this nerf was indeed a bit wrong.
    They should increase the duration again by a bit, but make it so, that only the drinker of the potion gets the detection benefit. I

    Of course if he attacks a cloaked Nightblade, he becomes visibile for a short moment. But that's not due to the detection potion itself.

    Finally we agree on something ! :D
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  • DDemon
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    Dracane wrote: »
    I think this nerf was indeed a bit wrong.
    They should increase the duration again by a bit, but make it so, that only the drinker of the potion gets the detection benefit. I

    Of course if he attacks a cloaked Nightblade, he becomes visibile for a short moment. But that's not due to the detection potion itself.

    This. Getting a bit tired of the complete and utter destruction of something whenever something gets nerfed. Whatever happened to small adjustments and/or tweaks? No, not ESO, when something is slightly OP, stomp it into the ground!
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    DDemon wrote: »
    Dracane wrote: »
    I think this nerf was indeed a bit wrong.
    They should increase the duration again by a bit, but make it so, that only the drinker of the potion gets the detection benefit. I

    Of course if he attacks a cloaked Nightblade, he becomes visibile for a short moment. But that's not due to the detection potion itself.

    This. Getting a bit tired of the complete and utter destruction of something whenever something gets nerfed. Whatever happened to small adjustments and/or tweaks? No, not ESO, when something is slightly OP, stomp it into the ground!

    Sadly true. I'm dissapointed by this either.

    It makes NO sense, why other people can see a stealthed person, only because I'm drinking a drug like potion that somehow radiates my eyes so I get the X-Ray vision.

    If they would have changed this and would have reduced the duration by a bit, it would be perfectly fine. But now, detection potions are almost useless for single persons and still as problematic as before, because everyone can see what I see when I drink the potion. I think, 25 seconds duration for this potion would be alright, considering I can't drink another potion to restore ressources.
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    I find nirn root one of the easiest to find.
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  • timidobserver
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    I expect that this won't happen in the short term because it would probably require a completely rebuild of the stealth system. The way it works right now is that you are either hidden or revealed.
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