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v16 armor question

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Hamrb
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I know monster helms will scale to v16 now, but what about other PvE dungeon sets? Like wormcult, adroitness, etc...
Edited by Hamrb on August 27, 2015 6:40PM
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  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Yes all sets can scale up to VR16 as long as the dungeon it self is VR16. ZOS stated that new and old dungeons can scale to VR16 and will drop the correct level loot.

    Make you question why ZOS nerfed crafting though cause most drop sets are better than most crafted sets and it be much easier to grind a dungeon 3 or 4 times for a monster helmet VS deconing 100s to 1000s of useless gear for a 150 ingots to make one piece of armor or weapons.
    Edited by Forestd16b14_ESO on August 27, 2015 6:50PM
  • starkerealm
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    I thought they'd explicitly said nothing would scale to V16 except the new IC dungeons...
  • Xendyn
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    starkerealm wrote: »
    I thought they'd explicitly said nothing would scale to V16 except the new IC dungeons...

    The only things that are Not scaling are Trials and DSA
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  • Septimus_Magna
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    Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »
    Yes all sets can scale up to VR16 as long as the dungeon it self is VR16. ZOS stated that new and old dungeons can scale to VR16 and will drop the correct level loot.

    I dont think this is true, to my knowledge the Worm Cult, Ebon, Adoitness sets will not be changed so they stay capped at v12. Only a couple of pvp sets have been updated to v16 and will be available though rewards of the worthy in pvp.

    Crafted sets will also be reduced in power level, currently crafted sets have +1 level compared to dropped sets. In the new update dropped sets will have +1 level compared to crafted sets.

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    Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »
    Yes all sets can scale up to VR16 as long as the dungeon it self is VR16. ZOS stated that new and old dungeons can scale to VR16 and will drop the correct level loot.

    Make you question why ZOS nerfed crafting though cause most drop sets are better than most crafted sets and it be much easier to grind a dungeon 3 or 4 times for a monster helmet VS deconing 100s to 1000s of useless gear for a 150 ingots to make one piece of armor or weapons.

    You are getting vr 16 items only from bosses.
  • Rioht
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    Xendyn wrote: »
    starkerealm wrote: »
    I thought they'd explicitly said nothing would scale to V16 except the new IC dungeons...

    The only things that are Not scaling are Trials and DSA

    And PvP vendor gear, and non IC dungeon drops, and public dungeon sets (I.e., martial knowledge).

    There is a very small list of vr16 gear sets.
  • Xendyn
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    Rioht wrote: »
    Xendyn wrote: »
    starkerealm wrote: »
    I thought they'd explicitly said nothing would scale to V16 except the new IC dungeons...

    The only things that are Not scaling are Trials and DSA

    And PvP vendor gear, and non IC dungeon drops, and public dungeon sets (I.e., martial knowledge).

    There is a very small list of vr16 gear sets.

    I was replying to Starke about the dungeons, but yeh.
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  • starkerealm
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    Xendyn wrote: »
    Rioht wrote: »
    Xendyn wrote: »
    starkerealm wrote: »
    I thought they'd explicitly said nothing would scale to V16 except the new IC dungeons...

    The only things that are Not scaling are Trials and DSA

    And PvP vendor gear, and non IC dungeon drops, and public dungeon sets (I.e., martial knowledge).

    There is a very small list of vr16 gear sets.

    I was replying to Starke about the dungeons, but yeh.

    And I think I was conflating the drops with the actual dungeon scaling, which was mybad. What I saw on PTS was V16 enemies dropping V14 gear. So, while the dungeons themselves scale to V16, the drops, at least for normal mobs, do not.
  • Elder_III
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    Boss mobs are supposed to drop VR16 gear, I believe regular mobs will still drop VR14 gear.
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    starkerealm wrote: »
    Xendyn wrote: »
    Rioht wrote: »
    Xendyn wrote: »
    starkerealm wrote: »
    I thought they'd explicitly said nothing would scale to V16 except the new IC dungeons...

    The only things that are Not scaling are Trials and DSA

    And PvP vendor gear, and non IC dungeon drops, and public dungeon sets (I.e., martial knowledge).

    There is a very small list of vr16 gear sets.

    I was replying to Starke about the dungeons, but yeh.

    And I think I was conflating the drops with the actual dungeon scaling, which was mybad. What I saw on PTS was V16 enemies dropping V14 gear. So, while the dungeons themselves scale to V16, the drops, at least for normal mobs, do not.

    Ok, yes. Only the mini bosses and bosses can drop V16 in the other dungeons.
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  • Nebthet78
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    Xendyn wrote: »
    starkerealm wrote: »
    I thought they'd explicitly said nothing would scale to V16 except the new IC dungeons...

    The only things that are Not scaling are Trials and DSA

    Dungeons will scale to V16. HOWEVER, only Bosses and Mini-bosses have a chance to drop V15/16 gear. Only certain sets will scale to V16. Most of the older sets will not.

    The only dungeons that have mobs dropping V15/16 loot are the two IC dungeons.
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  • Hamrb
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    but if it scales to v16, and bosses and minibosses drop v16 gear, doesn't that mean I can get a v16 necklace of adroit? or do they only drop average items to decon for v16 mats?
    Edited by Hamrb on August 27, 2015 11:39PM
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  • Nighn_9
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    Septimus_Magna wrote: »
    Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »
    Yes all sets can scale up to VR16 as long as the dungeon it self is VR16. ZOS stated that new and old dungeons can scale to VR16 and will drop the correct level loot.

    I dont think this is true, to my knowledge the Worm Cult, Ebon, Adoitness sets will not be changed so they stay capped at v12. Only a couple of pvp sets have been updated to v16 and will be available though rewards of the worthy in pvp.

    Crafted sets will also be reduced in power level, currently crafted sets have +1 level compared to dropped sets. In the new update dropped sets will have +1 level compared to crafted sets.

    this is right. the only PvE sets that r scaling to v16 will be the boss sets, NOT sets like wormcult, ebony etc. HOWEVER, there r 3 new weapon/jewelry sets (agility, willpower, endurance) that will have a drop chance in all group dungeons and they will scale to v16. Other than what i just said, everything in IC will scale to v16.
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  • Nebthet78
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    They just drop average items for decon. Devs already said the older sets were not being boosted to V15/16 levels.
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  • Scyantific
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    Dungeons will scale, old sets (MK/Worm Cult/Ebon/Sunderflame/Savior's) will not.
  • Muizer
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    Septimus_Magna wrote: »
    Crafted sets will also be reduced in power level, currently crafted sets have +1 level compared to dropped sets. In the new update dropped sets will have +1 level compared to crafted sets.


    I have no idea what this means. It's not about the number of bonuses per piece of armour, because that's exactly the same for dropped sets vs crafted sets (3 stat upgrades +one bonus feature for a full set of 5). So is meant by this? In fact, the only sets that give something for the first piece are dropped monster sets. Or is this about Vrank levels?

    Explanation would be appreciated!
    Edited by Muizer on August 28, 2015 6:28PM
    Please stop making requests for game features. ZOS have enough bad ideas as it is!
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