For all the people crying about CP's and imbalances

Sharakor

So people keep complaining about CP imbalances, claiming that those with CP's are overpowered. Well I decided to share some footage from these past few days in Cyrodiil on my V3-V5 magicka nightblade. I show survivability and DPS killing V14's mostly, keep in mind that many of the people I killed in this video are known to be hardcore CP grinders and it didn't help them one bit. So on my nightblade I use a very crappy (for PvP) Warlock/Seducer set, all attributes on magicka, no nirncrux on anything. My CP rank is 105 since I've been playing ESO since this summer, this means I have 34~ champion points in each of the three branches. So people need to stop blaming their lack of skill or knowledge what stats to max when PvPing on Champion Points... Enjoy

Sharakor

Finally embedded it.

Wyldman

I am guessing this is in response to my reply on an earlier post . I would like to point out that what you are doing here is on PC, not console and everyone knows they are NOT the same. My complaint regarded boosters and PC transfers to console WITH max CP and full PvP Gear. What I am talking about is not even in the same ball park as what you are trying to demonstrate here. Not even the same animal. But, good job on the PC badass.

Wyldman

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/210128/so-are-we-all-ok-with-some-of-the-sorcs-builds-doing-20k-instant-hits-and-having-20k-shields#latest

Yet another example of how PvP is broken

Sharakor

Wyldman wrote: »

I am guessing this is in response to my reply on an earlier post . I would like to point out that what you are doing here is on PC, not console and everyone knows they are NOT the same. My complaint regarded boosters and PC transfers to console WITH max CP and full PvP Gear. What I am talking about is not even in the same ball park as what you are trying to demonstrate here. Not even the same animal. But, good job on the PC badass.

Thanks and no I don't think I even saw your post, I'm talking about the complaints in general regardless of it being on PC or Xbox.

Wyldman

Well, if you have not played this on console then you should try it and you will quickly see what the complaints are all about. Console PvP is very broken.

reften

Would you say your gaming skills are average or are you much better than your average gamer?

david.haypreub18_ESO

Try that as a Templar, and get back to me.

CidxLucy

You are using a magicka nb with itself can be a overpowered build if you do it right.

Wyldman

reften wrote: »

Would you say your gaming skills are average or are you much better than your average gamer?

Well, I am a veteran WOWer (played for 5 years and had 4 maxed toons) and was a pretty tough cookie there. Yes, they are completely different games but just demonstrating I am no noob. I play many other online MMOGs as well. I am no pro by any means and not a casual either. I understand the game mechanics, stat spec'ing, etc. The ESO system takes time and work to understand but I have a good grip on it. I would like to point out though, that these guys I am referring to regularly, single-handedly wipe out mobs of 10-12 other PvPrs and never even lose health ... I watch it happen every single day. Just yesterday I was running with 5 VERY GOOD VR14's, a few VR10s and myself who is VR12 and we attacked this VR14 PC transfer (yes, we know the guy and know he is a transfer) sneaking up on us. In less than 45 seconds he annihilated every single on of us. I have seen mobs of 15 go after him and he kills most of them and when he starts to lose health he poofs and runs.

Cherryblossom

Let me get this right, you Gank people and as they don't get the chance to react, means that CP isn't broken!

Sadly, you have no concept of actual mathematics, if you did, you would actually understand someone having more damage and defence gives them an advantage.

leepalmer95

So watched the first 6 mins..

Seems to me like your just ganking? That in no way shape or form shows the issue of imbalance, also requires no knowledge or skill?

You took out a pve grinding group in a delve that's also not really impressive...

You could do what you've just done on a vet 1 and still kill the v14's because for some reason most of them are stupid enough to sprint until that have no horse stamina left.

Junkogen

Which race are you?

Ballzy321

Wuts this prove again? Someone get this kid a cookie

MaxwellC

CP is definitely OP on consoles. V 14 with almost 90 CP get's 4 hit by another v14 with 220CP. How do I know how much CP he has? Well I did what anyone would do, I just asked him "What's your champion rank" and he told me.

The death recap was amazing, didn't know someone could completely ignore my armor with a bow n arrow and hit me for 10k consistently.

nimander99

Truth, proof and facts have nothing to do with CP argument...

Forestd16b14_ESO

Again ZOS added CP for good and pure reasons. It was the players who destroyed it and made it the imbalanced and horrible system it is now. Blame the players not ZOS cause as we all know players will abuse and exploit the tiniest thing to gain a unfair advantage over every one else.

Tolmos

Cherryblossom wrote: »

Let me get this right, you Gank people and as they don't get the chance to react, means that CP isn't broken!

Sadly, you have no concept of actual mathematics, if you did, you would actually understand someone having more damage and defence gives them an advantage.

This is pretty much /Thread.

Thanks for the chuckle!

TequilaFire

NightBlade
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Troneon

haha op your funny...

All you show is ganking with a NB when no one is fighting back and barely have a chance to react or even see you....

That is your justification for unbalanced champion points? ....

Not sure if ignorant or actually believe what you say...

eNumbra

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Again ZOS added CP for good and pure reasons. It was the players who destroyed it and made it the imbalanced and horrible system it is now.

Yeah, that's not how that works.

Thalmor-Nordmaster

How did that fight with Joy go?

thunderwell

Nerf Nightblades!
Trollol.

zornyan

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

CP is definitely OP on consoles. V 14 with almost 90 CP get's 4 hit by another v14 with 220CP. How do I know how much CP he has? Well I did what anyone would do, I just asked him "What's your champion rank" and he told me.

The death recap was amazing, didn't know someone could completely ignore my armor with a bow n arrow and hit me for 10k consistently.

They can't, even with 3600 CP, it gives at best 20%, that's when you've got around 500cp, not 220, that's just a good player using every buff available.

To all the moaners, console pvp is absolutely fine, if someone beats you they are better than you END OF.

Seriously all this "oh but wait they had more CP! Or they used xyz" it's ***, accept they were simply a better player.

I guarantee I could give you 3600cp and you would still lose to people with 100cp that are better players.

Hopefully in a few months once people get higher numbers they will realise it doesn't give them a huge advantage, and that if they suck now, they will suck with all the CP in the world.

jkemmery

@Sharakor

OP, you have a Nightblade, so that's your advantage right there. Damage from stealth is ridiculous. Nightblades are the new rulers of Cyrodiil, so enjoy it while you can, because I'm sure in a year you will feel the nerf hammer too. If you had a Templar or DK, you wouldn't be able to do that.

jkemmery

zornyan wrote: »

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

CP is definitely OP on consoles. V 14 with almost 90 CP get's 4 hit by another v14 with 220CP. How do I know how much CP he has? Well I did what anyone would do, I just asked him "What's your champion rank" and he told me.

The death recap was amazing, didn't know someone could completely ignore my armor with a bow n arrow and hit me for 10k consistently.

They can't, even with 3600 CP, it gives at best 20%, that's when you've got around 500cp, not 220, that's just a good player using every buff available.

To all the moaners, console pvp is absolutely fine, if someone beats you they are better than you END OF.

Seriously all this "oh but wait they had more CP! Or they used xyz" it's ***, accept they were simply a better player.

I guarantee I could give you 3600cp and you would still lose to people with 100cp that are better players.

Hopefully in a few months once people get higher numbers they will realise it doesn't give them a huge advantage, and that if they suck now, they will suck with all the CP in the world.

That statement is a load of horse crap.

starkerealm

jkemmery wrote: »

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

I guarantee I could give you 3600cp and you would still lose to people with 100cp that are better players.

That statement is a load of horse crap.

No, it's true. 3600 CP won't protect you from getting ganked by corrosive armor, or from critical charge wreckingblows, it won't really save you, even in a stand up fight. Yes, you'd be stronger than a normal opponent, but it wouldn't elevate you beyond the point that someone who solos the trials couldn't end you on the spot without CP of their own.

Pewpewcannon

Ive only been playing for about 2 months and have 81 champ points, so hold my opinion with a grain of salt....but about the only enjoyment I get in this game in pvp is killing the people who have all of those CPs/high PVP ranks. (however rare that may be)

But it is also the best way to learn how to succeed in those encounters and learn the limitations/boundaries that you can push your character to by playing against characters who are either 1. Better than you/have more skill or 2. your everyday average joe schmo but has a ton of CPs or 3. Better than you/have more skill AND a ton of CPs.

I dunno....I guess the best analogy would be....if im playing a game of basketball, id rather play against someone far superior than me, so that I learn that much quicker. I may get my A** beat 19 times out of 20. But its that 1 time that I succeed that makes it all worthwhile and why I keep coming back to PVP. To each their own though.

(it was similar in DaoC...a realm rank 3 had no chance against an another opponent who was realm rank 10, which was fine by me...the realm rank 10 spent the time getting there...albeit in a more fun way...in actual PVP...not grinding mindless pve mobs ) but thats another topic...

Nonamesbutmineub17_ESO

All I saw was ganking people(any one with a decent amount of CP anyways) who where on horses with a magicka NB and bursting them down while they where stunned from being knocked off their horses before they could actually react of put up shields. If anything your video shows why people being able to infinitely spam cloak with a magicka NB is a problem, especially as all the other damage mitigation techniques such as bolt escape, permablock and dodge rolling are getting nerfed in a couple of day.

Justice31st

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Dru1076

People still claiming cp's make no difference make me laugh. If they made no difference, they would not exist.