What method of trade would you prefer.

DaveTheMinion

I think it could be a good idea for ZOS to own at least one trading stand in each of the main areas for anyone to sell goods.

DaveTheMinion

ZOS Official Traders

I am not looking for arguments just a small description of why you prefer the option you chose, nobody is right or wrong, its just a post for personal preference.

willymchilybily

Auction House

I'm Lazy. I dont care if i end up paying a premium for price fixed gear if i can actually search for the gear once instead of travelling all over the place. just knowing if something is even available no prices or anything would be nice.Not like there is much else to sink in game gold into

I do like the quirky system, but I'm still lazy. hell id even settle for when i search via the bank being able to search all the guilds im a member of.

Scorpio_Alik'ri

ZOS Official Traders

It would be nice to have a stable market value on items instead of players randomly attributing prices which are usually inflated.

Levo18

Auction House

The only problem i have with auction house is that rich people would buy all cheap deals fast and sell it for more so the rich get richer and the poor stay poor. With guild traders you may find some great deals from time to time like yesterday i bought 1x perfect roe for 5k

anitajoneb17_ESO

Leave everything as it is.

Scorpio_Alik'ri wrote: »

It would be nice to have a stable market value on items instead of players randomly attributing prices which are usually inflated.

A market value is, per definition, not stable, since it depends on supply and demand.
A stable/attributed price is, per definition, not a market value.

Also, keep in mind that item's price is not what the seller lists it for, but what the seller actually sells it for.

SlayerTheDragon

Auction House

Boycott the damn Guild Trading systems.

Winterpsy

Auction House

Immersion is important, but not the main forte of MMOs. Mostly it's only background and props.
This game's more about action, development, rewards.

Visiting cities after cities, and wasting considerable ammount of time on adjusting filters on vendor panels is nothing of the above, I find it pointless and frustrating to the point I barely use the guild traders to anything other than trying to find an epic or legendary piece.

Seeing every deal and offer in place would sweeten the deal. There's a compromise, keeping the guild vendors for flavor, but adding an unlockable auction house like thingy.

Rikal

Auction House

Auction House. Fair and equal access for all players. Almost all the arguments against it are based on flawed logic, or from biased people with vested interests in maintaining the current system.

BuggeX

Leave everything as it is.

I like the curent Cioscs.

Just leave it as it is.

Farorin

Leave everything as it is.

The only thing I want changed is the addition of more guild merchants.

mips_winnt

Auction House

I forget, what's that system of trade called where I always get the best end of the deal and the other party gets royally screwed? Oh yeah now I remember... The ENRON System.. yeah that's the one I want.

Molag_Crow

Auction House

Agreed. an AH would be so useful.

MakeUcrazY

I'm not really sure what to select. I wouldn't mind the guild traders if there was a better organization to them; example:

I needed a lvl 30 or so recipe for a writ. I decided to go to travel the vendors looking for this. Started in Vulkhel Guard and worked my way around different zones and the range of prices was beyond belief. Many guilds selling greens for 100g then another guild selling the same one for 5k....5K!!! So i thought I would skip the guilds that were unreasonable priced on their recipes and just go to the more reasonable ones. Well....scanning through the hundreds of recipes on about 12 guild traders, i was willing to pay 10k for this stupid lv30 recipe if I could just find it! (which is exactly what the price gougers hope for).

Finally after about the 20th guild trader I hit, I noticed I have spent about 2 hours traveling and looking for this recipe. I gave up and I have no interest in looking for anything on the guild traders ever again.

Now if there was some kind of Kiosk in each zone which allowed a search for the item you want and the area it is located, that would be great!

I don't really care if there is an auction house though it would be nice if you could sell on other guild traders even if you aren't a member; maybe make a higher fee for placing the item for sale and the guild still gets a bigger cut from non-guild members than they do from guildies.

Really, any change they make to the trading system would be welcome IMHO.

Athas24

Leave everything as it is.

willymchilybily wrote: »

I'm Lazy. I dont care if i end up paying a premium for price fixed gear if i can actually search for the gear once instead of travelling all over the place. just knowing if something is even available no prices or anything would be nice.Not like there is much else to sink in game gold into

I do like the quirky system, but I'm still lazy. hell id even settle for when i search via the bank being able to search all the guilds im a member of.

You can search all the guilds you are a member of.... just separately.

Sithisvoid

At least make a huge bazaar of all the guild traders somewhere i can visit once hitting VR14

NewBlacksmurf

Leave everything as it is.

DaveTheMinion wrote: »

I am not looking for arguments just a small description of why you prefer the option you chose, nobody is right or wrong, its just a post for personal preference.

Leave things as is BUT changes and tweak the UI's and options within what exists.

jackiemanuel

Leave everything as it is.

I've banked 2 million gold since console release with minimal effort. Anyone can do it. Plus i enjoy the guild trading mini game and made some friends in those guilds. I would like to see a search function and more guild trader kiosks.

AudioVortex

Auction House

I'm probably repeating a lot of Auction House voters: I'm lazy.

I want to be in game/levelling/pvping/whatevering not trawling the landscapes for a decent guild trader, or begging guild mates to take a moment to craft me *** load of armour that I have nothing to give in return. That's not fair on them!

So auction house would give my guildies a break from my begging and allow me to be my own man! And mainly just get on and play the game

Ratbert

Auction House

Auction house or bust. I hate the fact I have to spend 2 hours or so traveling around when I want to find ONE thing. Then having to do it again if I need to find something else in the next few days. I'm not always going to know what I might need tomorrow from a guild trader when I'm searching for something today.

I'm already burning time farming materials to make things, and that I accept as part of the game as it has been with tons of MMOs I've been in. I can go through a night or two of playtime farming mats for things to make myself or guildies on a weekly basis. Maybe at the very least centralize guild traders in one spot for each faction. Then I would only need to travel to 3 areas to search all vendors. That's assuming I'm right in thinking I can view other factions vendors in the current setup? Haven't paid attention to that part.

I would also like some remembering of my search criteria between vendors. If nothing else changes I hope it is that. I don't use the guild traders much because I hate it but I seem to remember there's a quick button to default my search criteria to start a different search on the same vendor. Why not remember my last search so I can more efficiently run from vendor to vendor and just hit X to search for the one item I'm looking for? Sometimes it remembers random things from the last vendor I searched but that is few and far between.

Tandor

Auction House

If the present system could be opened up to include for example a trader for non-guild members in each main location (at an increased commission rate with all commission shared between the guilds trading there), and there was a decent search function with paid-for delivery of items if wanted so as to allow characters to buy from locations that are inaccessible due to level or faction restrictions, then I could see a way of improving and extending the guild trader system.

However, I couldn't vote for a guild trader option because I don't believe that such a core part of any MMO as a public trading system should be locked behind guild membership. On that basis I opted for an auction house as that is the only option offering a truly public trading system open to all, but I'm not averse to an alternative to that including a modified guild trader system provided it is open to all buyers and sellers irrespective of level, alliance, and artificial barriers such as guild membership.

kupacmac

Leave everything as it is.

The current system isn't perfect, but it beats having an AH where you struggle just to sell anything (due to constant undercutting) and prices on everything drop so low that you barely make a profit.

Scorpio_Alik'ri

ZOS Official Traders

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Scorpio_Alik'ri wrote: »

It would be nice to have a stable market value on items instead of players randomly attributing prices which are usually inflated.

A market value is, per definition, not stable, since it depends on supply and demand.
A stable/attributed price is, per definition, not a market value.

Also, keep in mind that item's price is not what the seller lists it for, but what the seller actually sells it for.

It would be nice to know what an item is worth instead of getting ripped off. I always see two or more of the exact same items like blue racial motifs being sold at significantly different prices for example. With rare motifs such as daedric or Imperial, I would understand if they varied depending on the need of the buyer.

Psychobunni

ZOS Official Traders

I'd be okay with the guild trader system if there was proper search functions/better UI, I mean come on, offer the Awesome Guildstore creator a small fee and incorporate it...all the work is done almost.

Also, an RNG system for bidding. All guilds place their bids, if there are 150 traders (Idk the #) then the top 150 bids get a completely random kiosk, rest are refunded. Thus preventing a monopoly and allowing for competition/fairer market. There could be a listing installed told players where each guild landed if people wanted to shop particular ones.

Or...Make it so 2-4 guilds occupy a trader, less hopping

Or any one of 1000 ideas of improvement presented on this forum since this sorry systems release, but not "as is" no.

nickg420

Auction House

Everyone complaining about an Auction House tainting prices etc etc....Isn't that how a "free market" is supposed to work?

The 2 common complaints against an Auction House :

1. Well then everyone will be selling perfect roe/racial motifs/rare recipes and I can't charge $10K each for them...

Sorry friend, that's just how it is...The needs of goods by the many will have to outweigh the desire of profit by the few...

2. Someone with tons of gold will buy everything up that's cheap and relist it at a higher price...

This already happens everyday...I've done this countless times myself. Secondly, if there is only one place to buy things, like an Auction House, the price will never be higher than what someone is willing to pay for it. Even if that price is more than what you are willing to pay. The same reason not everyone has an iPhone...Some people refuse to pay $850 for a phone. You can refuse to pay $10K for fish eggs....

Lastly, any and everything you will find in any Auction House can be farmed/created. You do not HAVE to buy anything ever...That's what's so crazy about these arguments. You can go through this entire game and realistically never buy or sell anything through anything other than NPC merchants.

A central Auction House is the way to go. Yes it will have flaws and yes people making $5K gold on an item worth $100G will probably have to figure something else out. But it's the best alternative to stop wasted hours of searching and endless days of item listings.

13igTyme

Auction House

Anyone who has any economical sense will say AH. Everyone else doesn't know an economy works, let along a video game economy.

Psychobunni

ZOS Official Traders

nickg420 wrote: »

Everyone complaining about an Auction House tainting prices etc etc....Isn't that how a "free market" is supposed to work?

The 2 common complaints against an Auction House :

1. Well then everyone will be selling perfect roe/racial motifs/rare recipes and I can't charge $10K each for them...

Sorry friend, that's just how it is...The needs of goods by the many will have to outweigh the desire of profit by the few...

2. Someone with tons of gold will buy everything up that's cheap and relist it at a higher price...

This already happens everyday...I've done this countless times myself. Secondly, if there is only one place to buy things, like an Auction House, the price will never be higher than what someone is willing to pay for it. Even if that price is more than what you are willing to pay. The same reason not everyone has an iPhone...Some people refuse to pay $850 for a phone. You can refuse to pay $10K for fish eggs....

Lastly, any and everything you will find in any Auction House can be farmed/created. You do not HAVE to buy anything ever...That's what's so crazy about these arguments. You can go through this entire game and realistically never buy or sell anything through anything other than NPC merchants.

A central Auction House is the way to go. Yes it will have flaws and yes people making $5K gold on an item worth $100G will probably have to figure something else out. But it's the best alternative to stop wasted hours of searching and endless days of item listings.

LOL, isnt it funny that the two main arguments against AH are exact opposites of each other?

NovaMarx

Auction House

I voted Auction House for one reason: I want guilds to actually BE guilds. Not just mini-auction houses. It's hard to find guilds that aren't all about trade. And when searching for alternative guilds (like RP/PVP) you are bombarded with invites/promos for trade guilds - so the "smaller" guilds kinda get lost in the crowd.
It would be nice that it actually meant something to be part of a guild, and not just have it be a means for trade.

That being said, I think there should still be an option for those who want to have/be in a trading guild. So maybe some happy medium?

BaconMagic

Auction House

I voted AH since I'm fairly lazy and don't love spending my game time shopping booth to booth. However, I'd be fairly happy if there was an 'or best offer' function with the current guild trader system, with auctions lasting maybe 5-7 days. If you sent an OBO the listing player would get an email choosing to accept it or not, and that would be final. I think this would speed up sales and help prices stabilize.

Tandor

Auction House

NovaMarx wrote: »

I voted Auction House for one reason: I want guilds to actually BE guilds. Not just mini-auction houses. It's hard to find guilds that aren't all about trade. And when searching for alternative guilds (like RP/PVP) you are bombarded with invites/promos for trade guilds - so the "smaller" guilds kinda get lost in the crowd.
It would be nice that it actually meant something to be part of a guild, and not just have it be a means for trade.

That being said, I think there should still be an option for those who want to have/be in a trading guild. So maybe some happy medium?

There's no reason why the original guild trader function couldn't work alongside an AH or other public trading system for those who wanted the benefits of the guild trader UI for buying and selling within the guild. It would in effect be the guild-based trading system without the trader kiosks in the open world.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Leave everything as it is.

Scorpio_Alik'ri wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Scorpio_Alik'ri wrote: »

It would be nice to have a stable market value on items instead of players randomly attributing prices which are usually inflated.

A market value is, per definition, not stable, since it depends on supply and demand.
A stable/attributed price is, per definition, not a market value.

Also, keep in mind that item's price is not what the seller lists it for, but what the seller actually sells it for.

It would be nice to know what an item is worth instead of getting ripped off. I always see two or more of the exact same items like blue racial motifs being sold at significantly different prices for example. With rare motifs such as daedric or Imperial, I would understand if they varied depending on the need of the buyer.

You see these items listed at different prices or sold at different prices ? That's entirely different. I can list a blue motif for 1 million gold. That doesn't mean it's "worth" 1 million gold and I'd most probably never sell it at that price.

I may repeat myself but there is no such thing as "what an item is actually worth". That doesn't exist. Nor do "rip-offs" exist. It all depends if you can get it cheaper somewhere else or not. In the current state of things, you have to do a lot of research to know that. So either you do this research, visit all kiosks and get the cheapest of all, or you don't. Or anything inbetween. If you buy at a higher price, you haven't been ripped off. You have simply bought the item PLUS the time you saved in researching cheaper offers.

Guildies can be a lot of help in knowing whether the prices you consider buying at are "correct", which means, if you can buy it cheaper elsewhere easily or not.