Spell Damage OR Spell Crit? Whats Gives the MOST dps?

getmesome2

As titles says, would it be better to gain 15% spell crit or 450 spell power?

gimpdrb14_ESO

spell damage stack as much as you can

getmesome2

gimpdrb14_ESO wrote: »

spell damage stack as much as you can

does it only add 450 damage to each spell or how does it work?

TheShorion

A Stat that's always there in most cases will give you more dps than a Stat with a chance.

olsborg

Id go with spelldamage, its just best vs any type of build. You cant crit on block or on damage shields.

getmesome2

olsborg wrote: »

Id go with spelldamage, its just best vs any type of build. You cant crit on block or on damage shields.

thats changing though next dlc

starkerealm

Crit's only a good option if you're really stacking it up. Otherwise, even +15% spell crit, will probably do you less good in the long run than increasing your spell power.

Of course, I don't know what the rest of your build looks like. But, generally speaking, spell power over crit. Same with weapon power over weapon crit, btw.

getmesome2

i am at 67% crit, i can get up to 80% if i stack some armor bonuses, im so confused on how spell damage works

starkerealm

getmesome2 wrote: »

i am at 67% crit, i can get up to 80% if i stack some armor bonuses, im so confused on how spell damage works

Spell damage scales all of your magicka related damage and healing. So higher spell damage will scale your abilities. It doesn't affect stamina based abilities or weapon attacks (somewhat obviously), as those are governed by your weapon damage stat.

I'm not sure if that's what you were asking, though.

getmesome2

starkerealm wrote: »

getmesome2 wrote: »

i am at 67% crit, i can get up to 80% if i stack some armor bonuses, im so confused on how spell damage works

Spell damage scales all of your magicka related damage and healing. So higher spell damage will scale your abilities. It doesn't affect stamina based abilities or weapon attacks (somewhat obviously), as those are governed by your weapon damage stat.

I'm not sure if that's what you were asking, though.

my main question i guess is this 'does spell damage just add the base damage a piece of armor adds or is there a multiplier?'

say my crystal fragment does 1,000 base damage and i add armor that gives 100 spell damage, will that ability then do 1100?

starkerealm

getmesome2 wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

getmesome2 wrote: »

i am at 67% crit, i can get up to 80% if i stack some armor bonuses, im so confused on how spell damage works

Spell damage scales all of your magicka related damage and healing. So higher spell damage will scale your abilities. It doesn't affect stamina based abilities or weapon attacks (somewhat obviously), as those are governed by your weapon damage stat.

I'm not sure if that's what you were asking, though.

my main question i guess is this 'does spell damage just add the base damage a piece of armor adds or is there a multiplier?'

say my crystal fragment does 1,000 base damage and i add armor that gives 100 spell damage, will that ability then do 1100?

Okay, I gotcha. I'm not sure on the exact math, but it will get calculated for you in your tooltip. So you'll see what a spell will actually do.

The math itself is a little trickier because you have two scaling stats, your spell damage, and your max magicka. So, slotting a new piece of armor won't increase any of your abilities by exactly that amount, and if it's a magicka enchanted piece of armor, your spell will actually go up more than it's spell damage up stat would suggest.

If your spell damage is 1k, and you've got a spell that's doing 1k, slapping a +100 spell damage should increase the spell to 1.1k. But, in game you're more likely to just see a 10% up to your magicka based attacks.

And, yeah, the math is kinda weird.

getmesome2

anyone got an exact formula to calculate the dps for these 2 stats?

leepalmer95

getmesome2 wrote: »

anyone got an exact formula to calculate the dps for these 2 stats?

Just google the skill in question you want, use the website esohead

Put the scrolers on a skill to chara lvl 50 + rank IV

Check how much dmg it does, scroll another 100 spell dmg in and do it again.

Problem is that skills get different dmg bonus per spell dmg + max magicka, e.g. crystal frags does more dmg than daedric mines, so adding 100 spell dmg may add 300 frags smg but only 250 mines dmg.

Not sure on the exact maths but that it generally. But for most magicka builds spell dmg > crit ususally.

Septimus_Magna

(ABILITY + POWER × 10.46) × COEF

Ability = spell or weapon dmg
Power = magicka or stamina
Coef = ability value

Crits do 150% more dmg so 15% crit gives a 7,5% dmg boost but crit is more reliable in pve than in pvp.

Original thread: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/149498/new-dps-calculations#latest