What is the best magika build for DPS nightblade?

Roberts3393

i have just gone from a stamina build with a bow and the dps seems so much more powerfull than the magika although in the magika's defence i havnt levelled alot of the skills to the max.

Bloodgharm

It's gonna feel underpowered because your nb siphoning skills are either dots or lower damage spammed abilities. You don't have the same nuking capabilities as a mag nb. However, your survivability and utility go way up using magicka. I've actually been running a magicka caster nb for a couple of weeks now after starting with a stamina build. I'm switching back because I like the in-your-face playstyle and I started to get bored casting everything from a safe distance.

chevalierknight

Bloodgharm wrote: »

It's gonna feel underpowered because your nb siphoning skills are either dots or lower damage spammed abilities. You don't have the same nuking capabilities as a mag nb. However, your survivability and utility go way up using magicka. I've actually been running a magicka caster nb for a couple of weeks now after starting with a stamina build. I'm switching back because I like the in-your-face playstyle and I started to get bored casting everything from a safe distance.

Use dw you keep the survivability and get more speller

Bloodgharm

chevalierknight wrote: »

Bloodgharm wrote: »

It's gonna feel underpowered because your nb siphoning skills are either dots or lower damage spammed abilities. You don't have the same nuking capabilities as a mag nb. However, your survivability and utility go way up using magicka. I've actually been running a magicka caster nb for a couple of weeks now after starting with a stamina build. I'm switching back because I like the in-your-face playstyle and I started to get bored casting everything from a safe distance.

Use dw you keep the survivability and get more speller

Yeah but no magicka regen unless they slot siphoning attacks.

Roberts3393

Only way I've found so far is by using cripple first and then swallow soul is there a way to make swallow soul stronger through the champion point system?

Shader_Shibes

Roberts3393 wrote: »

Only way I've found so far is by using cripple first and then swallow soul is there a way to make swallow soul stronger through the champion point system?

Thaumaturge.

Roberts3393

Shader_Shibes wrote: »

Roberts3393 wrote: »

Only way I've found so far is by using cripple first and then swallow soul is there a way to make swallow soul stronger through the champion point system?

Thaumaturge.

Thanks not sure if I've got them on that I'll have a look when I get home what's that increase?

RavenSworn

Magic, Poison damage and one more that im not too sure.

Reeko

uniq_faznrb18_ESO wrote: »

Magic, Poison damage and one more that im not too sure.

Magic, Poison and Disease

Jbugz97

stam bow and 2hander
or 2hander and dw amazin dps

Shilling

Magicka:
Proximity detonation, teleport strike in stunning enemy, stealth and concealed weapon stunning them again then your detonation goes off and everything dies if not use sap essence to finish or soul swallow or impale or whatever u like.

Stamina:
ambush, surprise attack, ambush, surprise attack and the enemy is dead but no survivability or escape which is why the damage is so high to compensate for the lack of abilities.

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO

Stamina:
ambush, surprise attack, ambush, surprise attack and the enemy is dead but no survivability or escape which is why the damage is so high to compensate for the lack of abilities.

Not even mixing in things like Retreating Maneuver, Double Take, etc.?

Shilling

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO wrote: »

Stamina:
ambush, surprise attack, ambush, surprise attack and the enemy is dead but no survivability or escape which is why the damage is so high to compensate for the lack of abilities.

Not even mixing in things like Retreating Maneuver, Double Take, etc.?

I don't use retreating manuevre in my stamina build, I'm beginning to think my stamina build is better than my magicka because the burst damage is higher...

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO

Shilling wrote: »

I don't use retreating manuevre in my stamina build, I'm beginning to think my stamina build is better than my magicka because the burst damage is higher...

Nice!

I've been running with a melee Magicka build, but I just started a new character that I'm running Stamina with. I'm REALLY thinking I'm going to enjoy the playstyle.

And you're right - it really does seem to hit harder, from a burst perspective.

helediron

Switching from stamina to magicka means you lose third of your dps. You can spam cloak but the price is high. Think twice.

Kerioko

Magicka NB = good sustained dps (12-15K), great mobility with decent survivability, and tons of group utility!

Stam NB = glass cannon nuker with awesome burst and slightly better sustain dps(16-20K) at a major cost to survivability and utility!

So pick your poison! With the IC update, magicka NB should be a little stronger in the dps game thanks to sets like scathing mage and molag kena. This will allow us to really abuse and reap the rewards of the low cost funnel light attack weave. But magicka will still be behind stam in upfront burst potential, and with the change to vigor becoming alliance rank 5, stam NBs are going to have decent self healing when combined with rally!

@Roberts3393, If you are really liking magicka NB, this is the standard build for PVE: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/1-6-pve-correct-magicka-nightblade-dps-amstelx/

If PVP is your flavor, Sypher puts out some great stuff that you can easily adapt to your own playsyle: http://www.sypherpk.com/magicka-nb/

Septimus_Magna

Stam NBs loose quite a lot of dps in 1.7 due to the sharpened fix and they cant roll as much as before, just so you know!