I was able to "pick off" mobs in Craglorn delve one by one... BUG or MIRACLE?

Emma_Overload

Last night I went into Loth'Na Cavern in Upper Craglorn to clean out the Scaled Court scum, and the STRANGEST thing happened to me. I soon discovered that it was possible to "pick off' the closest mob without aggroing any of the others near him. It was AMAZING! It felt more like combat in ES4 Oblivion than ESO, it was so much fun. Here is a screenshot of one of the fights in progress:



See the dead mob in front of me? That guy was just a couple meters away from the other mobs when I first hit him, but the others NEVER aggroed the whole time I was kicking his butt. All of Loth'na Cavern was like this last night, beginning with the the mobs near the front door. One of them was so blissfully unaware of my presence that I had to kill him on the way OUT the door, because I never even noticed him when I came in and ran right past him to attack his colleagues. When I left the Cavern, however, the effect stopped, and all the Scaled Court mobs outside aggroed normally, i.e. all at once.

Has anyone else ever experienced anything like this? I would love to know how to recreate this effect at will, as it would make solo PvE so much more enjoyable in many situations.

UPDATE: I just went back to Craglorn and found more of this atypical aggro. Scroll down for my post with pictures.

Taleof2Cities

Applause for your efforts. Correct, some mobs are soloable in Upper Crag.

Just be aware, however, the zone isn't intended for solo PvE.

Theosis

great, now they will nerf all mobs xp and reduce the amount of loot it drops after adjusting that we can never ever be able to solo any in that spot

Emma_Overload

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Applause for your efforts. Correct, some mobs are soloable in Upper Crag.

Just be aware, however, the zone isn't intended for solo PvE.

Yeah, but that's not the main point here. I've solo'd this particular Delve dozens of times, and the mobs have NEVER behaved like this. They ALWAYS aggro as a group, usually 6 or 8 at a time. Last night was easily the strangest thing I've ever seen in the game, that's why I posted about it.

Kova

That is strange and I've personally experienced this as well. I was soloing, just as you, and it was as if the groups paid me no attention until they were personally attacked. Wonder what's causing this sense of virtual honor?

Emma_Overload

Kova wrote: »

That is strange and I've personally experienced this as well. I was soloing, just as you, and it was as if the groups paid me no attention until they were personally attacked. Wonder what's causing this sense of virtual honor?

I went through my whole build to see if anything was different than usual, and the only thing was this: I was testing out healing gear earlier that night, and I had re-specced my CP so that I had a ton of points (around 85) in the "Blessed" passive in the Mage/Apprentice tree: http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/The+Apprentice

I can't imagine why this passive would have any effect, but it's the only thing I did last night that was any different. If this was a bug, I'm guessing it was on the server side and had nothing to do with me.

Shunravi

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Applause for your efforts. Correct, some mobs are soloable in Upper Crag.

Just be aware, however, the zone isn't intended for solo PvE.

If Emma could use pets to get through party locked mechanics, well....

Everything is soloable if you put the effort into it. (except those party locks)

Gilvoth

i had the oposite experiance,
i was trying to get a skyshard in one cave i was missing and was only 2 mobbs near that skyshard, when i tried to fight them the entire room hunted me down all the way from very far and had no connection to those 2 mobbs.
WAY too much agro for no reason. THAT to me was very not normal. never seen that before.

Xendyn

How odd...we didn't have even maint this week, let alone a patch that could have changed anything.
That's whats wrong with the game performance! There's a Poltergeist in the servers!

Emma_Overload

Shunravi wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Applause for your efforts. Correct, some mobs are soloable in Upper Crag.

Just be aware, however, the zone isn't intended for solo PvE.

If Emma could use pets to get through party locked mechanics, well....

Everything is soloable if you put the effort into it. (except those party locks)

Who, me? Although I have actually tried getting my Clannfear to stand on the 2nd pressure pad at Direfrost Keep...

Sadly, it did not work

Emma_Overload

Xendyn wrote: »

How odd...we didn't have even maint this week, let alone a patch that could have changed anything.
That's whats wrong with the game performance! There's a Poltergeist in the servers!

It's true that we haven't had a patch, BUT there are some variables that ZOS can tweak without a reboot. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that the devs can tweak XP awarded from mobs without even rebooting the server. It wouldn't surprise me if there were plenty of other things they can tweak (or break!) without a patch or reboot.

Surely there must be a variable somewhere in the code that defines the distance between mobs for aggro to be "contagious"?

Emma_Overload

ZOMG, it just happened again! After my last post, I went back to Loth'na Cavern to see if the mobs were still oblivious and sadly, they were not. I went through the whole cave, and all the mobs aggroed "en masse" as usual. HOWEVER...

AFTER that, I went to Exarch's Stronghold, the delve full of Orcs in Upper Craglorn, and guess what? I was picking off mobs ONE BY ONE just like last night. This was even possible with a named troll boss and his two fire mages. Normally, this encounter is quite difficult for me to solo because I'm a vampire, and those two fire mages hit HARD. I usually die once or twice, to be honest. Not this time! Check out these pics for proof:

First, I killed the troll boss by himself. Note the fire mage playing with himself in the background...



Then I fought and killed the 1st fire mage. Note the other mage still clueless in the back...



And finally I dealt with the 2nd fire mage...



Guys, I run these delves every week, and I can tell you this is NOT normal aggro behavior for these mobs. Very strange!

BTW, the WHOLE delve was like this. The only encounter that had "normal" aggro was the final boss encounter with Exarch Braedoth in his throne room. In that room only, aggroing one mob aggroed them all. Perhaps that encounter is scripted so that it follows different rules than the rest?

Volkodav

Actually,.I have had this happen to me. I wondered what the heck was going on.,When it kept happening,I just kinda went with it. One by one,I cleared the entire area without issue.It's happened several times now.Either they dont trigger to kill you,or just stand there and let you kill them without fighting back,which felt sooo weird!

Emma_Overload

Holy Cow, I just solo'd today's Pledge, Volenfell, one mob at a time, LOL. Even the final bosses, all 3 of them:



Notice how I killed one of the boss constructs, but the other 2 aren't even moving. I've solo'd Volenfell before, but it's never been like this. I wonder what's causing this?

Shunravi

Huh.

I wonder if they have just given up because they know you can take em?

Kuroinu

Emma's excitement is infectious. I'm excited for you being excited.

Egonieser

I've soloed most delves in Crag (except party gated delves) on 3 chars and mobs have always attacked me in groups, never in singles. However lately even outside craglorn i have noticed sometimes mobs do not aggro when i attack the one next to them, and usually they do. Maybe a bug or desync issue due to no server restart.

Mojmir

im callin hacks, actually i was doing a crafting survey and decided to go after the neirids on an island, only aggro'd one at a time, and they were quite close to each other.this was 2 nights ago.