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Can't test without cloak or dodge.
briandivisionb16_ESO
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Cloak is breakable by gap closers and other skills. You haven't fixed it. Some say its worse 
Please fix so I can come back and carry on testing for you! 
Dodgeroll, too! A morph of DK whip is still hitting people while dodging.
Do you actually talk to your players ZOS? lol
Please fix so I can come back and carry on testing for you! Dodgeroll, too! A morph of DK whip is still hitting people while dodging.
Do you actually talk to your players ZOS? lol
If your group is bigger than 6 members gain 75% damage reduction.
Write this on the back of your box and see how many sales you get!
You won't get any new PvP players until this archaic AoE crap is fixed.
I for one won't resub until:
1.) You fix lag.
2.) You remove AOE caps we voted against.
3.) 12 months have passed (this is how long we've waited for you to 'get with it')[/b]
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Lord_Hev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Cloak should be breakable by gap closers. If you want to avoid it, roll dodge before you cloak.2 -
briandivisionb16_ESO✭✭✭✭Agree to disagree. Won't debate balance with you.
The point is ZOS don't want it to be breakable (so easily?), and unfortunately it still is
So trying to draw attention to the plight of bugs. (Yes I say bugs- unintended) we were promised this be fixed.
In summary, there's no point in testing a game which is playing the way ZOS does not intend in the first place.
In honesty, I struggle with my class right now. ^^If your group is bigger than 6 members gain 75% damage reduction.
Write this on the back of your box and see how many sales you get!
You won't get any new PvP players until this archaic AoE crap is fixed.
I for one won't resub until:
1.) You fix lag.
2.) You remove AOE caps we voted against.
3.) 12 months have passed (this is how long we've waited for you to 'get with it')[/b]0 -
ScruffyWhiskers✭✭✭✭✭Cloak should be breakable by gap closers. If you want to avoid it, roll dodge before you cloak.
So is that your opinion or a design point expressed by the developers? I watched one of the ESO Live sessions a while back and it was stated that cloak would not be subject to breaking by single target attacks..which implies gap closers if they have just one target. Not being sarcastic mind you, I would really like to know.
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Master_Kas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭They claimed they fixed cloak multiple times now, each time its the same or then break it.
Try not to rely on it, rely on damage shields (+ teleport shade) on magicka build. Rolls + teleport shade as stam build aswell. Then cloak when you're far away from the enemy or out of his/her sight. EU | PC1 -
briandivisionb16_ESO✭✭✭✭I can't test without cloak and dodgeroll. I'm making a DK. After 12 months I genuinely can't trust this is fixed.
Why am I still here. LOLlIf your group is bigger than 6 members gain 75% damage reduction.
Write this on the back of your box and see how many sales you get!
You won't get any new PvP players until this archaic AoE crap is fixed.
I for one won't resub until:
1.) You fix lag.
2.) You remove AOE caps we voted against.
3.) 12 months have passed (this is how long we've waited for you to 'get with it')[/b]0 -
Lord_Hev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ScruffyWhiskers wrote: »Cloak should be breakable by gap closers. If you want to avoid it, roll dodge before you cloak.
So is that your opinion or a design point expressed by the developers? I watched one of the ESO Live sessions a while back and it was stated that cloak would not be subject to breaking by single target attacks..which implies gap closers if they have just one target. Not being sarcastic mind you, I would really like to know.
By single target, they meant stuff like cyrstal frags which just go through you while cloaked(even with a detect pot...)
Gap-closers are different. They by their nature, physically force you to your target. Therefore, you cannot just mitigate it by popping cloak without actually -dodging- the impact.0 -
ScruffyWhiskers✭✭✭✭✭Honestly it's not really that bad. I have a feeling that a lot of the perceived unreliability has to do with latency issues between clients and the server. Network code has never been my specialty but I can imagine that it presents some real challenges for an ability like cloak and how the server would arbitrate checks on visibility and other players' interactions with the cloak status.0
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briandivisionb16_ESO✭✭✭✭ScruffyWhiskers wrote: »Honestly it's not really that bad. I have a feeling that a lot of the perceived unreliability has to do with latency issues between clients and the server. Network code has never been my specialty but I can imagine that it presents some real challenges for an ability like cloak and how the server would arbitrate checks on visibility and other players' interactions with the cloak status.
Completely disagree @ 'not really that bad.'
Dude. Someone spams a gap closer and you CAN NOT cloak. Simple as.
Which class doesn't use one? This means every class negates cloak.If your group is bigger than 6 members gain 75% damage reduction.
Write this on the back of your box and see how many sales you get!
You won't get any new PvP players until this archaic AoE crap is fixed.
I for one won't resub until:
1.) You fix lag.
2.) You remove AOE caps we voted against.
3.) 12 months have passed (this is how long we've waited for you to 'get with it')[/b]1 -
ScruffyWhiskers✭✭✭✭✭By single target, they meant stuff like cyrstal frags which just go through you while cloaked(even with a detect pot...)
Gap-closers are different. They by their nature, physically force you to your target. Therefore, you cannot just mitigate it by popping cloak without actually -dodging- the impact.
I can't say I agree with the semantics here. Single target attack to me indicates any action ranged, melee or gap closer that targets a single player. This would include light and heavy attacks as well. Anybody know if ZOS has every addressed this?
As far as the gap closer spam goes, I agree it's annoying. I usually try dodge roll, double take or mist form combinations to get enough distance to get a cloak off that takes. Of course if a detection potion is active and it's a mob chasing you, you are a goner no matter what unless you get lucky.
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silky_soft✭✭✭✭✭
✭Besides same bugs from live. They are using gap closers with aoe damage attached to them to guarantee taking you out. It's not very thought out by zos. Also if you have the FORCEFULL trait from the 2h tree you can just swing heavy attacks and it's like jabs takes you out of stealth with no effort. Literally anything that does splash damage will take you out. They just need to make it so you take damage but don't leave cloak. So only way to knock out of cloak is ground target aoe and to see is detect pot.This recent update has made me sad. Sad for the game. Sad for the community. Sad to pay whatever it is now. I want the previous eso back.0 -
Cagro✭✭✭Idea. Give damage immunity for Cloak duration and do the same thing you are doing with Dodge Roll and Bolt Escape. The next Cloak casted within 4 seconds cost 50% more. Issue solved... I think.0 -
Zuuman✭✭✭briandivisionb16_ESO wrote: »Cloak is breakable by gap closers and other skills. You haven't fixed it. Some say its worse Please fix so I can come back and carry on testing for you!
Dodgeroll, too! A morph of DK whip is still hitting people while dodging.
Do you actually talk to your players ZOS? lol
L2P. Useless post with a very close minded tone. If your not happy the door is over there.
I have no problem whatsoever with cloak.0 -
ScruffyWhiskers✭✭✭✭✭silky_soft wrote: »Besides same bugs from live. They are using gap closers with aoe damage attached to them to guarantee taking you out. It's not very thought out by zos. Also if you have the FORCEFULL trait from the 2h tree you can just swing heavy attacks and it's like jabs takes you out of stealth with no effort. Literally anything that does splash damage will take you out. They just need to make it so you take damage but don't leave cloak. So only way to knock out of cloak is ground target aoe and to see is detect pot.
This thought occurred to me as well because I have been using Lotus Fan lately. But I was assuming that the most common gap closers were critical rush and ambush and maybe the shield charge moprhs.
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