Quick question can level 10 nightblade beat level 28 dragonknight in non vet campaign

SIXR_sCaR

Quick question can level 10 nightblade beat level 28 dragonknight in non vet campaign

since their no dueling allowed with same faction
i made nightblade on opposite faction
Me and my friend are playing on aldmeri dominion runned campaign
So he get pretty much gets all the campaign bonus.

When ever we duel.
I can only get him to 50% health.

Is their any chance i can win.
Em i losing duels because of level difference or campaign bonus.

Xael

SIXR_sCaR wrote: »

Quick question can level 10 nightblade beat level 28 dragonknight in non vet campaign

since their no dueling allowed with same faction
i made nightblade on opposite faction
Me and my friend are playing on aldmeri dominion runned campaign
So he get pretty much gets all the campaign bonus.

When ever we duel.
I can only get him to 50% health.

Is their any chance i can win.
Em i losing duels because of level difference or campaign bonus.

It depends on what skills you have unlocked.
Considering you are in the lowbie campaign, there is major damage reduction set in place. This heavily favors healing and sustain damage. Also if the DK is a lot higher than you he will likely have skills deeper into his class trees. DKs have a lot of defensive abilities and passives. If he has Green Dragon Blood (self heal) you will likely never beat him as a level 10, particularly as a new player.

The only chance you really have is to level up and unlock more abilties / passives. Get gear that synergizes with your playstyle (set bonuses) and learn to play your class better. Figure out your strengths and weaknesses (particularly of the build you are running).

Reeko

Everyone is treated as a lvl 50 in Cyrodiil so it is nearly impossible for the reason to be a level difference. The exeption being skill points obviously. Might i make a few suggestions?

In the Assassin tree get:
Assassins Blade
Teleport Strike

In the Shadow tree get:
Shadow Cloak
Veiled Strike

In the Siphoning tree get:
Strife

Grab the Ultimate in the Assassin tree called Death Stroke also.

Those abilitys you can get fairly early and i still use them even now at V11.

SIXR_sCaR

k thx for info

Rylana

The stronger nightblade skills are unlocked earlier in their trees. The bread and butter of the DK class doesnt really start unlocking until around level 35 or so (some soon, most later)

A competent Nightblade should be able to cobble together a workable build even at level 10 that will be effective vs a Dragonknight, if anything because the DK is missing about four of their strongest and must have skills at this level (28)

d3nbark3r

To put it bluntly. No. The dragon knight if played properly wouldn't hardly be damaged by you. It should already have dragons blood (self heal) Obsidian shield (decent damage shield) And the 10 NB would have barely any of the decent abilities unlocked despite what the above said. No crowd Control. Pathetic self heals. Barely any decent dps combos. Get your NB to around levels 17-22.

d3nbark3r

Rylana wrote: »

The stronger nightblade skills are unlocked earlier in their trees. The bread and butter of the DK class doesnt really start unlocking until around level 35 or so (some soon, most later)

A competent Nightblade should be able to cobble together a workable build even at level 10 that will be effective vs a Dragonknight, if anything because the DK is missing about four of their strongest and must have skills at this level (28)

I laughed.

d3nbark3r

To be honest the game would be broken if a level 10 of any class could beat another 18 levels higher. Even with battle leveling.

Rylana

d3nbark3r wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

The stronger nightblade skills are unlocked earlier in their trees. The bread and butter of the DK class doesnt really start unlocking until around level 35 or so (some soon, most later)

A competent Nightblade should be able to cobble together a workable build even at level 10 that will be effective vs a Dragonknight, if anything because the DK is missing about four of their strongest and must have skills at this level (28)

I laughed.

Ill tell you right now id destroy any level 28 dk reroll with a level 10 nightblade, purely on knowledge of point counterpoint.

DK skills and passives that make the class strong enough to survive vs a NB specifically set to up to kill a DK do not unlock until tiers 4 and 5 in Ardent Flame, Draconic Power, or Earthen Heart.

I mean, because I totally dont play every class and know every mechanic in this game or anything

That being said a DK played correctly can also win. It is up to the individual players, no one size fits all. I could also roflstomp a level 28 nightblade on a level 10 DK, but thats par for the course.

Rylana

d3nbark3r wrote: »

To be honest the game would be broken if a level 10 of any class could beat another 18 levels higher. Even with battle leveling.

Should have seen me kill a V14 DK on my level 26 sorc. Now THAT was classic. Player skill and knowledge is the end all be all, builds and rotations and stats are trivial by comparison.

predkill29

Rylana wrote: »

d3nbark3r wrote: »

To be honest the game would be broken if a level 10 of any class could beat another 18 levels higher. Even with battle leveling.

Should have seen me kill a V14 DK on my level 26 sorc. Now THAT was classic. Player skill and knowledge is the end all be all, builds and rotations and stats are trivial by comparison.

Sweet. Just out of curiosity how many CPs?

Mauz

SIXR_sCaR wrote: »

Is their any chance i can win.
Em i losing duels because of level difference or campaign bonus.

With only 1 weapon I find it difficult. I would at least go to lvl 15 for weapon switch. Chars in non vet have all same stats but a lvl 28 has much more skill pts set and therefore much more passive boni like reduced costs, more reg, more dps.

To be really efficient at low levels you should decide about your build before char creation. In non vet you can only lvl one kind of armor and one weapon to unlock all passives. Create gear with learning traits for leveling. And you should decide in advance which skills you need for you build. slot these abilities to modify them as early as possible.

Then you can strengthen your char by using buff drinks and potions, crafting sets, use rings with cost reduction. Enchants and set boni in general do not apply but there are exceptions: 5 piece set bonus apply, +crit, cost reduction enchants on rings. Additionally you can switch for pvp to a set with mundus traits to get additional buffs from mundus stones. Unlock as many sky shards as possible to get skill pts.

Most likely sustain will be your problem cause your costs are high and you dont have most armor passives yet. So I would use willows path set.

But to give some really helpful hints it would be necessary to know your weapon, race, armor type. But generally it's easier for your mate. He does more dmg, has more sustain, better cc, better heal, better mitigation simply cause he unlocked more passives with more skill pts.

mcurley

Short answer... yes.

However, it's pretty unlikely until you learn how to play a little better. The DK's extra skill points and second weapon bar will likely prove too much for you if you lack experience in the game.

It is definitely possible though. I got many kills as a level 10-14 NB. Lots of people see that low level and assume you've got no fight in you. It's quite fun to beat a gank from someone who is 20+ levels higher than you.

Xael

Rylana wrote: »

d3nbark3r wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

The stronger nightblade skills are unlocked earlier in their trees. The bread and butter of the DK class doesnt really start unlocking until around level 35 or so (some soon, most later)

A competent Nightblade should be able to cobble together a workable build even at level 10 that will be effective vs a Dragonknight, if anything because the DK is missing about four of their strongest and must have skills at this level (28)

I laughed.

Ill tell you right now id destroy any level 28 dk reroll with a level 10 nightblade, purely on knowledge of point counterpoint.

DK skills and passives that make the class strong enough to survive vs a NB specifically set to up to kill a DK do not unlock until tiers 4 and 5 in Ardent Flame, Draconic Power, or Earthen Heart.

I mean, because I totally dont play every class and know every mechanic in this game or anything

That being said a DK played correctly can also win. It is up to the individual players, no one size fits all. I could also roflstomp a level 28 nightblade on a level 10 DK, but thats par for the course.

Actually if you played a DK with a particularly build in mind, you could fast track certain skills and passives. That said, you can't really do the same with a level 10, particularly a Nightblade. It takes less than an hour to get to level 10 and a lot less XP is needed to get to it. That said, you won't have that many skills let alone passives.

Rylana wrote: »

d3nbark3r wrote: »

To be honest the game would be broken if a level 10 of any class could beat another 18 levels higher. Even with battle leveling.

Should have seen me kill a V14 DK on my level 26 sorc. Now THAT was classic. Player skill and knowledge is the end all be all, builds and rotations and stats are trivial by comparison.

While I have done similar feats and I am in agreement with you that ability and knowledge are more important than gear or certain builds, this is neither here nor there. In a boast like this there are many factors you ignore. Let alone the fact we are talking about Blackwater Blade. BWB has caps on certain stats, lots of damage reduction, etc. On a level 10 NB if you are not Magicka based with Resto skills, you will get destroyed by a level 30 DK if he has a modicum of common sense.

FlounderOG

DKs aee basically made for Dueling. They refuse to die.

NBs usually attack from stealth and ambush people.

I usually just sneak around the outside of a conflict and teleport strike the weakest enemy, then dark cloak again.

Ive never seen the nightblade as a "head on" fighter.

With the right build, traits, potions, provisions, enchantments, and gear sets anything is possible though.