Daedric Artifacts!

Ewokninja

I think something that would be awesome if implemented and done correctly, would be the ability to obtain Daedric Artifacts. Possibly a low drop rate off trials, or even a very rare crafting recipe for certain professions, that you would then have to find hard to obtain items to create an use. It would be awesome to see the artifacts everyone loved and enjoyed from Skyrim somehow make their way into the ESO world! Any ideas on how else they may implement them? Or what are your opinions on this, good or bad? Lets get this ball rolling!

Ewokninja

Or at least add more if there are any currently in game!

Williamxx

I always liked the idea of having super rare items in games that only a few have. Create different items that everyone has a slim chance of obtaining through crafting, PvE solo, PvP group and PvP.

Forestd16b14_ESO

And as said many many many times before about daedric artifacts along with dragons and sexist female armor. NO ! Not only will it shatters the lore if every single player has a 1 of it's kind deadric artifact it would shatter balancing cause every one will want either want Merus Razor which is know for being over the top OP cause it's one hit kills anything or the Wabbajack to turn every one into chickens.

So please stop beating the dead horse and it's off springs about this topic cause it will NEVER happen.

Ewokninja

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

And as said many many many times before about daedric artifacts along with dragons and sexist female armor. NO ! Not only will it shatters the lore if every single player has a 1 of it's kind deadric artifact it would shatter balancing cause every one will want either want Merus Razor which is know for being over the top OP cause it's one hit kills anything or the Wabbajack to turn every one into chickens.

So please stop beating the dead horse and it's off springs about this topic cause it will NEVER happen.

You make a good point, yes. But why not have more quests that aim at Daedric Artifacts. Go through, do a quest that takes you through to obtain Merus Razor for instance, that you can use only on the quest, have some fun with it for a while. At least the lore would be there and players can experience the entertainment of these items all over again.

But at the same time, you can say it will NEVER happen again, but you do realize there are games out there that there are items that there is only meant to be ONE of those items, yet anyone can get them, but at a very very very low drop rate, meaning its special when you get them? Theres no reason they wouldnt be able to tweak said items so they would not be ridiculously OP.

Waffennacht

The lore can be avoided simply by what you name the rare item. For example Dwemer instead of Daedric, that fits perfectly in the lore.

Other mmorpgs have really rare or limited events or drops similiar to his idea, why not eso?

Honestly I am surprised by the lack of "drops" in this game. My other experience is Neverwinter and they are drop crazy

TheShadowScout

The only good way to use daedric artifactsin an TES MMO is the one way they have been used - as plot device. Remember the wabbajack and the fork in the mages guild quest? Like that...

Or like the Dawnbreaker - summon the artifact, or a magical shadow of it, for one strike as an ultimate ability...

Otherwise you get the trouble of dozends of players running around with an "unique" piece of equipment.

Now, rare copies inspired by those artifacts on the other hand... just like you don't get the fang of sithis, but you can have a dagger made in its image... you could not get, say, goldbrand, but you could get a sword inspired by it...

Ewokninja

TheShadowScout wrote: »

The only good way to use daedric artifactsin an TES MMO is the one way they have been used - as plot device. Remember the wabbajack and the fork in the mages guild quest? Like that...

Or like the Dawnbreaker - summon the artifact, or a magical shadow of it, for one strike as an ultimate ability...

Otherwise you get the trouble of dozends of players running around with an "unique" piece of equipment.

Now, rare copies inspired by those artifacts on the other hand... just like you don't get the fang of sithis, but you can have a dagger made in its image... you could not get, say, goldbrand, but you could get a sword inspired by it...

This isnt a bad idea but they definately need some rare items, even if they are no daedric artifacts. Maybe even like @Waffennacht stated and bring in Dwemer items that are somewhat unique and difficult to obtain. We need something though, just to give something to work towards.

MikeB

Several other MMO's had artifacts drop at a very very low drop rate in the hardest PvE group material that players could get and the only thing it did was cause lorebabies to whine on the forums about it.

21jws10

Something similar to dawnbreaker would work for some artifacts. Not all of them would be able to do this obviously, especialy the clothing ones, but some weapons like the mace of molag bal may work, though it would be rather hypocritical of the vestige to use it, there is one other existing artifact that I know of currently in the game, the Savior's Hide, which is in the game too albeit as a set.

Mashille

I Like The Sound Of Azura's Star.

Infinite Soul Gems and resurrections anyone?

Gilliamtherogue

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Now, rare copies inspired by those artifacts on the other hand... just like you don't get the fang of sithis, but you can have a dagger made in its image... you could not get, say, goldbrand, but you could get a sword inspired by it...

You actually get a real version of the Fang of Sithis if you chose the other quest option. No difference from the copy other than a few words of a flavor text difference.

Scyantific

Lock them behind PvP, watch the PvE crowd lose their minds that they have to PvP to even see them. lol

Waffennacht

Just like @Ewokninja said, we need something to strive for.

I was talking to a friend whom does not have ESO , (but big pc rpger) and I told him about how I finished a dungeon. He excitedly asked me what awesome loot I got. Sadly I informed him there was no such loot, that my undaunted skill xp was my main reward.

This exchange made me realize how in ESO im never hunting for loot. Its all xp based, all my weapons or armor are crafted.

I do realize that the dlc kind of offers this via stones however still not exactly what im looking for.

Also, even though we are looking for rare items, that doesn't mean they have to be uber powerful, im thinking something as small as an alternative art would be enough.

IF they were to implement mercs that would be a cool thing. Instead of going straight to crown store maybe a mount. There is a whole,lot they could do

Ewokninja

Scyantific wrote: »

Lock them behind PvP, watch the PvE crowd lose their minds that they have to PvP to even see them. lol

Yea, but PVP is fantastic! Even if you aren't big into pvp, the mechanics behind it are superb and even a rookie can have fun running around.

Ewokninja

Waffennacht wrote: »

Just like @Ewokninja said, we need something to strive for.

I was talking to a friend whom does not have ESO , (but big pc rpger) and I told him about how I finished a dungeon. He excitedly asked me what awesome loot I got. Sadly I informed him there was no such loot, that my undaunted skill xp was my main reward.

This exchange made me realize how in ESO im never hunting for loot. Its all xp based, all my weapons or armor are crafted.

I do realize that the dlc kind of offers this via stones however still not exactly what im looking for.

Also, even though we are looking for rare items, that doesn't mean they have to be uber powerful, im thinking something as small as an alternative art would be enough.

IF they were to implement mercs that would be a cool thing. Instead of going straight to crown store maybe a mount. There is a whole,lot they could do

Even if they were to do special armor/weapons that, by them selves, have a few unique perks similar to what a set piece might have, but on one item. Dungeons are there for exploration and exp, as you stated, but would be fantastic to see loot to strive for. Special weapons, armor, jewelry, even mounts, would give more motivation to do dungeons and end game content. I'm glad to see many agree that as great as ESO is, and even with it getting better with new DLC (dark brotherhood and an actual thieves guild hinted at in the new year), it would be fantastic to have some pretty wicked items to look forward to and go hunting for. Hell I'd be happy if they brought in the option for houses (similar to what Hearthfire was for skyrim), and you could even work towards trophies to show off!

Ewokninja

And thats including copies of the Daedric Artifacts you can show off!

Erelah

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

And as said many many many times before about daedric artifacts along with dragons and sexist female armor. NO ! Not only will it shatters the lore if every single player has a 1 of it's kind deadric artifact it would shatter balancing cause every one will want either want Merus Razor which is know for being over the top OP cause it's one hit kills anything or the Wabbajack to turn every one into chickens.

So please stop beating the dead horse and it's off springs about this topic cause it will NEVER happen.

Just as everyone has beaten up a Deadric Prince on the Prince's plane of Oblivion?

td11db14_ESO

I think it would be cool to have unique artifacts in the game. However, I think your ability to hold on to one should be limited. So, lets say there is only one Mehrune's Razor in the game and its a rare drop, but once someone gets it, they only get to play with it for a week or a month before it disappears from their inventory and someone else has a chance to pick it up. IIRC, most of the daedric artifacts have kind of a mind of their own, so it would make sense for them change owners frequently.

Ewokninja

td11db14_ESO wrote: »

I think it would be cool to have unique artifacts in the game. However, I think your ability to hold on to one should be limited. So, lets say there is only one Mehrune's Razor in the game and its a rare drop, but once someone gets it, they only get to play with it for a week or a month before it disappears from their inventory and someone else has a chance to pick it up. IIRC, most of the daedric artifacts have kind of a mind of their own, so it would make sense for them change owners frequently.

This is a neat idea, but how long would it take before people find a way to exploit this and are essentially able to hold on to it permanently?

Kuroinu

This is an interesting idea and gets me thinking. So I'll give an example of how I think this could work in ESO.

We're aware of some Daedric Princes having a single Champion. For example, in TES:Skyrim you have Boethiah's Ebony Mail that you "acquired" from the previous Champion.

Now in ESO we have PvP and that situation Boethiah put you in during the quest in TES:Skyrim were you fight in a pit until you're the last one standing could be imitated to resemble a PvP dual or even tournament situation where the Champion(A player) could acquire the Ebony Mail and the Title of Boethiah's Champion.

Once a player has became Boethiah's Champion you fight with the Ebony Mail in the next tournament or players fight in the next tournament to get a chance at fighting you to acquire the Ebony Mail and become Boethiah's Champion. However if the current Champion is absent to defend the title at the next tournament it becomes forfeit and the winner of that tournament replaces them. And a PvP Tournament is born! Sounds fun to me, lol.

As for Ebony Mail stats in ESO, no idea. But it'd have to be something interesting of course!

I now have so many ideas for the other Daedric Artifacts flooding in due to this thread, lol.

Thymos

This idea again?

I'll say that daedric artifacts are neat and all. Some of them are in the game, like the Wabbajack, albeit temporarily.

I'm really not that interested in having really powerful items in the game, even if they are only owned by players for limited amounts of time. If they are obtainable by everyone, that totally defeats the purpose of a single artifact.

Until I see a really good idea on how to handle them, I'm really not all that interested. The only way I'd accept them to be in game, would be the same way the Wabbajack is already in the game, only usable in a solo quest.

Waffennacht

Gosh would i be stoked for houses, that was my favorite dlc for skyrim...

I really hope people aren't getting hung up on the name "daedric" artifact. Yes it makes it lore, however, it can be any item or items not even associated with the Princes

I think most people want rare loot for hunt for, doesn't matter what the name is

Ewokninja

Riko_Futatabi wrote: »

This is an interesting idea and gets me thinking. So I'll give an example of how I think this could work in ESO.

We're aware of some Daedric Princes having a single Champion. For example, in TES:Skyrim you have Boethiah's Ebony Mail that you "acquired" from the previous Champion.

Now in ESO we have PvP and that situation Boethiah put you in during the quest in TES:Skyrim were you fight in a pit until you're the last one standing could be imitated to resemble a PvP dual or even tournament situation where the Champion(A player) could acquire the Ebony Mail and the Title of Boethiah's Champion.

Once a player has became Boethiah's Champion you fight with the Ebony Mail in the next tournament or players fight in the next tournament to get a chance at fighting you to acquire the Ebony Mail and become Boethiah's Champion. However if the current Champion is absent to defend the title at the next tournament it becomes forfeit and the winner of that tournament replaces them. And a PvP Tournament is born! Sounds fun to me, lol.

As for Ebony Mail stats in ESO, no idea. But it'd have to be something interesting of course!

I now have so many ideas for the other Daedric Artifacts flooding in due to this thread, lol.

That sounds like an exciting idea for sure!

Ewokninja

Waffennacht wrote: »

Gosh would i be stoked for houses, that was my favorite dlc for skyrim...

I really hope people aren't getting hung up on the name "daedric" artifact. Yes it makes it lore, however, it can be any item or items not even associated with the Princes

I think most people want rare loot for hunt for, doesn't matter what the name is

That seems to be the general consensus. Granted the title of the thread states daedric artifacts, more so what i was getting at was rare items. The reason daedric cam to mind is that they are rare and full of lore as well. But any sort of rare items to work towards would be fantastic!