1vX Less Viable Now - Absolutely A Good Thing

Bromburak

TagaParti wrote: »

1vX will be less viable in Update 7

You believe everything don't you?

bosmern_ESO

The fact that people think ESO's PvP is made for 1v1/1vX is completely wrong, and you are completely wrong for thinking ZoS should make pvp friendly to that.

PvP is meant for small-medium-large group combat. The other night I was in a group with 3 others, we had about 12 DC that kept coming to fight us and we kept winning, mainly because we were more organized and played well. Yes PvP isn't going to be easy for 1vX anymore because you can't burst people down, but Its more viable for 2,3,4,5vX etc. Try getting a small group of good players on the PTS, you will have a lot more fun then running solo, after all MMO's are meant to be played with others.

Sypher

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

The fact that people think ESO's PvP is made for 1v1/1vX is completely wrong, and you are completely wrong for thinking ZoS should make pvp friendly to that.

PvP is meant for small-medium-large group combat. The other night I was in a group with 3 others, we had about 12 DC that kept coming to fight us and we kept winning, mainly because we were more organized and played well. Yes PvP isn't going to be easy for 1vX anymore because you can't burst people down, but Its more viable for 2,3,4,5vX etc. Try getting a small group of good players on the PTS, you will have a lot more fun then running solo, after all MMO's are meant to be played with others.

Why are you trying to impose your play style on other people? who are you to say how someone should play their game? ZOS gave us the "sandbox" that is Cyrodiil and what people do in cyordiil is completely up to every individual. Solo, Small group, large group, ganking, zerging, rping, etc.

Erondil

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

The fact that people think ESO's PvP is made for 1v1/1vX is completely wrong, and you are completely wrong for thinking ZoS should make pvp friendly to that.

PvP is meant for small-medium-large group combat. The other night I was in a group with 3 others, we had about 12 DC that kept coming to fight us and we kept winning, mainly because we were more organized and played well. Yes PvP isn't going to be easy for 1vX anymore because you can't burst people down, but Its more viable for 2,3,4,5vX etc. Try getting a small group of good players on the PTS, you will have a lot more fun then running solo, after all MMO's are meant to be played with others.

It will also be less viable for 2vX 3vX 4vX etc... all the outnumbered pvp. Because to play outnumbered when ressource is an issue for no one, you need burst too, or the ennemy group will always outheal all your damages (not talking about a bunch of scrubs with no healer here). Overall 1.7 make number even more important than it already was, and skill less.

JaJaLuka

The only change that I care about at all with the next update is the zero stam regen while blocking in combat. I just hope they have balanced things again for all aspects of the game, not just PvP. I love PvP and I think the block casting is silly, but some things will become increadibly hard like the harder end game tanking. Not sure if they've quite hit the nail on this one, I still think you simply should not be able to use an aggressive ability while holding block and not necessarily stop all stam regen.

A possible issue that arises from this is the need to then boost shields so that tanks can then withstand the damage while having to let go of block. Perhaps just a thought at the moment, anyone tested this on PTS that could shed some light?

Xeniph

It's pretty clear Sheliza hasn't seen Skaffa tank 10+ on the pts while thinning them out for over 10 minutes. 1vX is not dead, but the higher TTK is going to make it a bit tougher to keep from getting zerged while doing it.

vortexman11

Most I've done successfully so far on PTS is a 1 v 4 and as a lot of you know, I'm not that great of a solo player...lets wait to see what Sypher and Blaba and all those people can do.

WRX

1vX is much better in my opinion. No more snipers one hitting you from stealth thank god.

Jbugz97

WRX wrote: »

1vX is much better in my opinion. No more snipers one hitting you from stealth thank god.

i never got one hit sniped on 1.6. my set gear wouldn't allow that

Soulac

Never had problems with Snipe.
I got more problems fighting Templars who can outheal any Dps without running out of ressources.
As soon as you turn your back on them they start to Jesus beam you or attack with jabs..
You know what kind of enemy does the same?



I kill Templars through burst while they're stunned, otherwise they simply don't die. Same for DKs, Sorcs or NBs, they're just not as annoying as Templar since they don't heal the whole *** group while doing that stuff.
In 1.7 I will kill the bad people like always and go out of the fight. Ain't nobody got time for 5 minute fights and every scrub is able to hold their own for half an eternity.
"balance".

Valindor Magnus

ewhite106b16_ESO wrote: »

1vX is only a bad thing when caused by badly designed mechanics rather then player skill. Winning against multple players via skill is a good thing and pretty much the essence of PVP - competition. Fun is improving your own skill to the point where you can stand a chance against well known players, not in devs nerfing the player skill in pvp to make newbies feel better.

I think all experienced pvpers at some point went against a really skilled player with several friends and died due to being outplayed. But they didnt quit, they learned and got better. Dying a ton due to exploits, bugs and the like is what is far more likely to make players quit.

this. i dont care when i die in cyroodiil if its a legit death, however when i see videos of sorcs with their buffs up and they have inner light active and its not on their bar or multiple mundus stone boons active at the same time it pisses me off. not to mention just the blatent abuse of broken skills like camo hunter was or making a build to one shot ppl. just unhealthy for the game.

GorraShatan

I think the TTK changes are good, but that they went a bit too far. It just makes the fighting seem a bit tedious. With the close respawn points in IC the fights take longer than it takes you to get back to the fight. Maybe instead of 50% they could go to 25% or 30% or 15% or something. Play around with it.